GamesRadar leaks Mists of Pandaria (WoW) videos and screens

TBH, all the vanilla races are kinda low poly, especially cared to BC and beyond races. There is way too much work to fix them though, sadly. : (

Dysun said:
Looks like what I expected it to look like.

Not very exciting to me, heroic scholo and strath...yawn. More rehashed dungeons?
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You say rehashed, some people say we welcome the opportunity to revisit a retweaked version of them. And many others never got to experience them.
 
Really loving how dense some of the new zones are with detail. Looks great. Female Pandaren on the other hand are just putrid though.
 
Boken said:
TBH, all the vanilla races are kinda low poly, especially cared to BC and beyond races. There is way too much work to fix them though, sadly. : (


You say rehashed, some people say we welcome the opportunity to revisit a retweaked version of them. And many others never got to experience them.
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They can remake the whole of old world Azeroth but updating the character models is "too much work"?
 
Boken said:
TBH, all the vanilla races are kinda low poly, especially cared to BC and beyond races. There is way too much work to fix them though, sadly. : (
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They have already stated it's on their to-do list, although it's a huge project to undertake.


Dysun said:
They can remake the whole of old world Azeroth but updating the character models is "too much work"?
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Yes, because there's a ton of elements that need to come together. Worst being the community reaction to changing their race. Then they need
to rework every single piece of armour in the game to make it fit to the new models, as their body structure is bound to change. There's a ton of work, much
more than changing terrain and redoing quests.
 
Both Horde and Alliance are going to be able to be Pandarian, right? What is the reasoning behind this? I always thought one of the cool things about WoW was the difference of races on both sides.
 
Dysun said:
They can remake the whole of old world Azeroth but updating the character models is "too much work"?
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Updating character models requires the updating of every single armour set in the game to fit those new models... so yes. Especially now that they introduced Xmog, so they have to be even more aware that people would use old gear.

Edit: god dammit sethos.
 
SafeinSound said:
Both Horde and Alliance are going to be able to be Pandarian, right? What is the reasoning behind this?
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Blizzard needed a new race but the expansion pack has to come out too soon for them to actually put a lot of work into something like two new playable races.
 
Remaking the classic races sure is a lot of work, but it really should have come out long ago, i mean.... if i want to make a new warrior, and i get the choice between :

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and

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Why should i go with human?
 
The new race has to be "monks" too, or else we'd have to have two new classes.

@Bisnic, because human ladies > worgen ladies.
 
Sethos said:
Because Worgens look terrible, animation wise :P I'd pick Human any day of the week, they look badass totally decked out, Worgens don't.
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Worgens have terrible animations? Maybe caster wise, but melee is great! I look badass when i do. And humans have terrible animations too anyway, like running. :P

Beside i like my worgen warrior in T5. I just wish they would update the textures on old Tier armor. :( The lvl 1 armor have better texture ffs!
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Bisnic said:
Worgens have terrible animations? Maybe caster wise, but melee is great! I look badass when i do. And humans have terrible animations too anyway, like running. :P

Beside i like my worgen warrior in T5. I just wish they would update the textures on old Tier armor. :(
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Just have to disagree on all levels, except human running, that is pretty bad :(

I just hate Worgens so bad in every way possible.

They are actually one of the top reasons why I switched back to Horde :P
 
Worgen look badass in plate using a two-hander. Much better than human males. I just can't bring myself to play as a human male. However, I still think Draenei female have the best model. They look awesome in just about anything.
 
No comments on the remodelled tauren in one of those screens? Sure, it might be another offshoot like taunka but I find it really odd that they would make another relative of that race and make that so superior graphically while the original tauren are still in ten-polygon-block-hand country.

There's actually not much of a difference but the added hair detail (tauren hair is HORRIBULL) and the face really sells it as a better model.
 
SiegfriedFM said:
No comments on the remodelled tauren in one of those screens? Sure, it might be another offshoot like taunka but I find it really odd that they would make another relative of that race and make that so superior graphically while the original tauren are still in ten-polygon-block-hand country.

There's actually not much of a difference but the added hair detail (tauren hair is HORRIBULL) and the face really sells it as a better model.
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It'll be just like Taunka I'm sure. However, it could have been modelled in such a way that would allow for easy implementation if they pull the trigger on the new models.
 
I doubt thats a remodeled player race. It's either all the races or none. Too many people would cry foul. Plus, most of the player base are Belf and Human - so if anything, they'd do human first.
 
I'm pretty curious if Blizzard still thinks they can get away with the hideous outdated character models. If mobs that you have to kill 8 times for a quest look leaps better than your main character, something is wrong.
 
Remaking all of old world Azeroth seems like a much bigger undertaking rather than tuning old armor sets to fit updated models.

Also if that is a female panda it looks so bad lol
 
I imagine they'll have to make a cosmetic expansion after this. WOW came out in 2004, so I think it seems perfectly reasonable that , with pandera making it out this year- 2012 we could see a retrofit expansion ready in 2014. 10 year anniversary. The only real question I'd raise- would it be sold or given out for free ? Perhaps anyone that has owned WOW since prior to burning crusade would get it completely free and early but the real version would get a standalone retail edition. WOW 10 year anniversary collection 60$ , includes 60 days of play as well as burning crusade, wrath of the litch king , cataclysm AND pandera with a fully updated graphics engine. I know with cataclysm they tuned up some of the visuals , added some better lighting /shadows and water. I"m talking about a bigger overhaul. Re-doing every texture in the game with 4X resolution , redoing every model in the game with 4X the polygon budget , adding new special effects. Basically when they're done , I want to see WOW looking at least as good as some of the more recent MMO's (conan, ff14, guild wars 2). They could take the opportunity to rip off guild wars dye /stat migration tool. So you could bsaically wear whatever gear you want with whatever stats you want with some minimal tinkering/grinding. You'd obviously need all the ingredients prior as well.

I haven't really played wow in a few years but a big graphical update would get me back in for a little while at least. I can't be alone.
 
Pachinko said:
I haven't really played wow in a few years but a big graphical update would get me back in for a little while at least. I can't be alone.
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WoW doesn't really need a graphical overhaul though. They've been implementing updates over the years gradually, and the only place really still lacking behind is with the older models.
 
Really not liking the female panda. The model is too similar to a Dwarf.
 
gatti-man said:
No, not even close actually. I've played both games wow doesn't hold a candle to swtor graphically. If you want to say well the art is better I would disagree there too. Art hampered by ancient graphic design still ends up looking terrible, especially at hi-res.
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LOL are you fucking serious?
WoW:MoP said:
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SW:TOR said:
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The problem with The Old Republic's art style is that it lacks soul. It's so bland and the armor(even the hard/heavy armor) looks like unbaked clay for the most part. That's the one thing I couldn't get over when I played the beta, how shitty the game looked. Where as WoW oozes creativity, color, and well-developed environments and concepts. More like TOR can't hold a candle to modern WoW. WoW has mastered their art style.

You must be a "serious-is-better" kind of guy. WoW is more toony but at least they know their strength. You can tell the WoW artists have a lot of passion for world creating. Lots of vibrant characters and lands. The worlds in Old Republic look pretty repetitive...
 
The older models are going to look stupid next to these new fresh models. It looks like they haven't updated them for the expansion. Awful.
 
KibblesBits said:
The older models are going to look stupid next to these new fresh models. It looks like they haven't updated them for the expansion. Awful.
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Well here's the thing: You're covered in new higher poly/higher res textured armor. You don't see much of the low poly modeling. This applies for your own character at least, I know the old race NPCs in the new areas do look weird.
 
KibblesBits said:
The older models are going to look stupid next to these new fresh models. It looks like they haven't updated them for the expansion. Awful.
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They really shoulda updated them for Cataclysm since Cata was all about the original world/races... The old models look so bad I can't bear to make any characters that aren't post-vanilla races.
 
In before Blizzard shuts this thread down.

Also, the more important thing about the next expansion again will be the way Blizzard streamlines and rebalances the talent trees/glyphs for each class with addition of new abilities. That is why even when a new game comes out, people end up coming back. Blizzard is just so far ahead in this area. As far as the look and feel, it is predictably and undeniably Blizzard.

I think Blizzard would be much more distressed if stuff from the Titan project was leaked.

Edit: About crappy looking vanilla races...GNOME FOR LIFE YO!
 
Actually, that panda is wearing a legacy low-level item that was in the original game back in 2004 (if I'm not remembering completely incorrectly), so they can make items stretch to any models. They already did for all four new races added, as well as nagas. Sure, there would be minor positioning glitches and such but that's what beta is for.

Of course, most of that gear would then look silly on top of new characters (like Imperial Plate on a worgen) so they'd need to update stuff anyway.
 
Dechaios said:
The thing is, the textures aren't low-res anymore. Maybe compared to most modern games but it's seriously higher-res than vanilla WoW or BC. Reason it's looking "dated" is because the models are low-poly. But hey, if they keep wrapping these super-artistic textures around low-poly models then I've got no problem. Looks awesome.
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WoW has higher res textures than TOR, for example.

Pretty sad.

 
The important part is that the only dragons in any of those screens are statues of Chinese dragons. If we never have to fight another Western dragon again, it'll be too soon.
 
I know how much time and effort it would take to upgrade the old races, but at this point I really think they need to just bite the bullet, they bring the games visuals down so much.
 
It doesn't even look like a panda, it looks like a dude in a fur suit, which is like a million times creepier.

I would have vastly preferred only male pandas and worgen to keep out the more shady elements of the internet.
 
Looks nice. No player will be given a reason to care to see that 2 months past launch, but it's nice.

Alex said:
I feel sorry for their environments team, who does good work, when all those blocky low res character models wearing putrid looking armor are dropped into them

Appealing 2012 environments with a bunch of people wearing reskinned armor from 2004.

SM was fun back in the day, but they've already said they're using 4.3s design philosophy for heroics. Which means it is impossible for you to die and dungeons will be 15 minutes long with 7.5 of those minutes being for cutscenes and waiting for scripting
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Got to get back to that EXCITING standing around bored in capitol cities with your thumb up your be-epicced butt, duh.

Kalnos said:
They didn't even really show anything. The biggest parts of the DM/SFK updates were the boss fights and unit mechanics, I doubt they really want to spoil that in a teaser video.



Also, while I agree with your sentiment, no one ever did this. You could easily run past them all and probably have the rest of your group begging for a summon.
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Allies on our server had to corpseflop from their Tirisfal gy waaaaaaaay far away to get in SM curtesy of us. :D

TheNamelessOne said:
Oh yes. Scholomance was my favourite dungeon back when I was getting ready for Molten Core. Practically lived there.
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Ewwwww. Dire Maul was ten times the dungeon that trashfest was.

Weenerz said:
Only bad thing from those pictures has to be the female panda, what the fuck kind of hybrid female dwarf is that?
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Furry bait, duh. It's got the eyes for it, same as the Worgen!
 
I don't really get why female pandas need to exist, it would be better to just have them a male only race and then later add a female only race.
 
Blizzard's art team rocks

It's funny how well Bonsai trees fit in with the natural look of Wows terrain

However that female pandaren is creepy on every level
 
Kalnos said:
I don't really get why female pandas need to exist, it would be better to just have them a male only race and then later add a female only race.
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If they do that, they're gonna have to answer the question of how they reproduce. Cellular mitosis?
 
mclem said:
If they do that, they're gonna have to answer the question of how they reproduce. Cellular mitosis?
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I doubt they are very concerned about a believable mating back story.
I mean besides their diet these 2 pandas don't get along very well.

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What's the problem with the female panda? Would you prefer it to be more rotund like the males? Is the face too furry-esque? It's not more furry-looking than the abomination that is the female Worgen... I think it looks like your standard cutesy WoW race. Looks fine. I prefer the male Pandaren a hundred times over but the female looks cool. The problem is we haven't seen how the females can vary(fur color, faces, etc). For all we know this is the cutest female Pandaren face and there are more badass ones. We also need to see how she looks in more advanced armor. Looks like she's in level 1 starting gear there.
 
Pretty amazing what blizzard can do with textures/land scapes in an aging game.

I'll probably take a plunge again for a month or two like I did with cataclysm, then wait for the content to be finished then resub and run all the raids with LFR.

Not really excited about the theme though. I would have liked different planes and planets, like a Twisting Nether expansion, with a Demon Hunter class.
 
Khezu said:
It doesn't even look like a panda, it looks like a dude in a fur suit, which is like a million times creepier.

I would have vastly preferred only male pandas and worgen to keep out the more shady elements of the internet.
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Obviously you've never played on an RP server where all those female characters in Gold
porn
shire have penises. Male or female will not stop the delusional erotica.
 
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