Winter 2012 Anime Thread 2.22: You Can (Not) Outpost Cajunator

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cajunator

Banned
Oh shit, Seiichi Hashimoto? Michiru Oshima?

Xam'd reunion!

Hopefully this will be Ichiro Okouchi of Planetes fame, the one that used to associate with BONES, and not the Code Geass variant

Whether it more closely resembles Planetes or Code Geass, I think thats a win-win situation right there.

http://fuse-anime.com/

The site updated.

Original Author: Sakuraba Kazuki
Director: Masayuki Miyaji
Script: Ichiro Okouchi
Visual Image: Okama
Character Design: Seiichi Hashimoto
Music: Michiru Oshima

Studio is not listed but it seems VERY likely to be a BONES production now.

This will only end in tears :(
 

zeroshiki

Member
Well it's a shitty Miyazaki Jr film, no rush. :p

Its actually not bad. There are some parts with bad melodrama but I chalk that up to the source rather than the director. Visually, it looks interesting and captures Showa Japan well (at least from what I know about Showa Japan).
 

wonzo

Banned
HidaSketch 9

hidasketch9.jpg

A fairly :firehawk episode about one's dreams and the hopelessness of lottery tickets. I knew if I had $3 million I'd use some of it to make the alarm clock that Miyako has!.

Well, I'm just asking because it looks terrible, lol.
Looks like it's from the manga of From up on Poppy Hill if google image search is lead to be believed. Either that or an artbook.

It's coming out in 3 months. The special edition has some official art on the box: http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/From-U...Blu-ray/40135/
Looks like I've got plenty of time to check out all of the Ghibli stuff I haven't seen yet!
 

Instro

Member
Secret Base Precure 7

The search for the secret base was entertaining, Anne of Green Gables even got a scene. The fight this week was pretty lackluster though.
 

duckroll

Member
Man, Okouchi is writing 5 movies this year. Magic Tree House, Fuse, and 3 Berserk movies! Lol. The man must be making mad cash, along with whatever he gets from the 54736594836593 Geass projects coming out this year.
 

Lain

Member
Irresponsible Captain Tylor 8

I almost feel bad for Harumi as she tries, tries and tries to
kill tylor, without success.
Though Tylor's luck and smooth game wins her over in the end (how can anyone resist this man, after all?).
Yamamoto changing his tune as soon as Tylor mentions
making him acting captain during the contest was only topped by the faces he made as he gets called Acting Captain Yamamoto or when he addresses himself as such.
 

Jex

Member
Man, Okouchi is writing 5 movies this year. Magic Tree House, Fuse, and 3 Berserk movies! Lol. The man must be making mad cash, along with whatever he gets from the 54736594836593 Geass projects coming out this year.

Truly the Mari Okada of our times.
 

zeroshiki

Member
Okada looks at Okouchi's output and chuckles to herself.

Its only March and Okada has more projects than that already done/lined up.

edit: damn you duckroll
 

cajunator

Banned
Nichibros starring Ringo and Literature Girl 5

The guys are hanging out dubbing over girls randomly, getting caught up in awkward misunderstandings, and elegantly subverting the girl in the back alley trope

Ringo is STILL LOVE.

Literature girl makes another hilariously hnnnng appearance.

Suddenly, Pachelbel's Cannon and Karasawa confronts his (non) admirers.

Good stuff.
 

Jex

Member
[Rinne no Lagragnge]

Oh, right
now we have god damn newtypes. Great.

I suppose I must
commend the show for 'getting real', even if I still don't rely buy into any of the plot that's moving these characters forwards. Simple, dramatic scenes of battle are portrayed quite well throughout the episode but I am sorely disappointed that not much damage was (apparently) done to the town. There needs to be consequences for all this action, it can't just be people Madoka happens to know.

I really don't feel that the show has earned any of the dramatic beats in this episode. A big ol' fleet is attacking the Vox's because...the Vox's are dangerous, especially when the pilots become emotionally unstable. Hmm, I wonder if attacking the pilots hometown would make them emotionally unstable?

Also, when we flash to the trio defending the city, Arry is still in a maid outfit - this really helps to damage the dramatic weight of the scene.
 

Branduil

Member
Man, Okouchi is writing 5 movies this year. Magic Tree House, Fuse, and 3 Berserk movies! Lol. The man must be making mad cash, along with whatever he gets from the 54736594836593 Geass projects coming out this year.

Do screenwriters really make that much money?
 

duckroll

Member
Do screenwriters really make that much money?

Movies pay better than series, and Okouchi is credited along with Taniguchi as "original creator" for all Code Geass works. That probably means he gets some sort of royalties out of it. Otherwise they'll just credit the original work to "Sunrise" like they usually do.
 

Jex

Member
I don't mind Newtypes in my Rinne.
Just keep it interesting and cute.
Don't let this get too serious!
Dude, plot spoilers! Tag that shit.
Mari Okada was in charge of the series composition for 5 TV series last year. She's in charge of 4 this year so far, and we're only up to Spring. :p

Clearly she's not worried about spreading her talent too thinly.

Imagine if someone made a reverse-harem show where the male suitors all beat the crap out of the girl.

You're a sick person.
 

Jex

Member
Sage advice here.

The BRS OVA is pretty decent, though you might be bored in between the action bits. The BRS tv series, on the other hand, is another one of those cruel jokes AnimeGAF likes to play on people.

No-ones joking here, though. Everyone has clearly been told what they're getting themselves into.
Guy gets beat up = funny
Girl gets beat up = WTF kind of sick bastard are you

Well, of course.
 

Jex

Member
Rinne no Lagrange 11
Definitely the best episode of the show so far. I wonder if they'll keep this bleaker tone or soon switch back to yuri hijinks and slice of life again. I still think it's odd how no one on Earth seems to think much of robots fighting and aliens invading.

I already brought that up last week. Apparently every other nation in the world has all their weaponry standing down as well, they're not interested in getting involved.
 
Perhaps they do in a variety of dumb relationship shows, but what of it? It's not like stronger females equal empowered females, as Agent Aika so aptly demonstrates.

I think that actions are more important than visuals when it comes to sexism, so I would say that Agent Aika is a bit less sexist overall than all those shows where the girls are all passive and stuff, or where the only violence is the usual "girls hitting boy" stuff that people have criticized here...

On the note of anime violence, I've said before (as some others did as well) that the amount of hitting in anime isn't right. Teachers hit their students, peple hit eachother all the time... that's wrong, morally or legally. In the case of girls hitting guys in harem shows, I think the idea there isn't really that the girsl are stronger than the boys; occasionally that is true, but often it's that the guys just won't fight back against a girl, because no matter how "strong" they are, they're girls so of course in reality they couldn't compete against a guy, so seeing them be violent in the story is considered fine. That is, the reasoning is mostly based on sexism. Yes, men are stronger than women on average, but the contempt of that attitude I just described is horrible.

So, returning to Aika, yes, the series has more pantyshots than just about anything, but Aika is a strong female lead, well able to defend herself and stronger than anyone else in the series. I'd say that makes the series less sexist overall than plenty of animes despite the obvious, constant visual objectification.
 

wonzo

Banned
Mirai Nikki 22


ahaha oh my god, the mirai nikki manga's a trainwreck in it's own right but when you take that and combine in with some QUALITY animation and hilariously over the top censorship you really do have something that transcends the original work into a whole new level of amazing.
 

Thoraxes

Member
Mirai Nikki 22



ahaha oh my god, the mirai nikki manga's a trainwreck in it's own right but when you take that and combine in with some QUALITY animation and hilariously over the top censorship you really do have something that transcends the original work into a whole new level of amazing.

You can literally see them losing budget as the show goes on.
 

frostbyte

Member
Nisemonogatari 11

Mixed impressions. The pacing of the plot was unfocused and it felt like it was going nowhere at some points. I enjoyed the ending although I didn't like how it was resolved. It felt kind of cheaped out for some reason. The character chemistry and dialogue still are engrossing but the visuals are definitely not as creative/unique as the original. I do appreciate that Shinbo has made the show more accessible by removing all the epilepsy inducing text flashing and screens with text in general. Sure, the visual cues aren't as powerful anymore but the entire experience is mellowed for the viewer. Despite appreciating that the show is more easy on the eyes, I dislike that Nise has lost a kind of unique edge that was in Bake and is now starting to look like every other SHAFT show.

In general, Nisemonogatari > Bakemonogatari. I still thoroughly enjoyed it for the characters and dialogue but plot was kind of meh. It's like eating a toffee and sucking a lemon at the same time :/

Persona 23

I was impressed at how the general mood was handled quite well. They really nailed the dismal atmosphere of the hospital scene.

and Yosuke's such a bro
during the scene where Yu was crying


Slight tangent but I still can't get used to crying in anime even after watching for so long. Straight into the uncanny valley every time this happens. At least it wasn't as uncomfortable as those last episodes of Ano Hana. At least, Secret Base made up for it...

Is anyone else like this or is this just me?

edit:


Woot! I don't know why they're even making Minami-ke anymore but will watch.

Superior first season was superior but the others aren't that bad.
 

cajunator

Banned
I think that actions are more important than visuals when it comes to sexism, so I would say that Agent Aika is a bit less sexist overall than all those shows where the girls are all passive and stuff, or where the only violence is the usual "girls hitting boy" stuff that people have criticized here...

On the note of anime violence, I've said before (as some others did as well) that the amount of hitting in anime isn't right. Teachers hit their students, peple hit eachother all the time... that's not right. In the case of girls hitting guys in harem shows, I think the idea there isn't really that the girsl are stronger than the boys; occasionally that is true, but often it's that the guys just won't fight back against a girl, because no matter how "strong" they are, they're girls so of course in reality they couldn't compete against a guy, so seeing them be violent in the story is considered fine. That is, the reasoning is mostly based on sexism. Yes, men are stronger than women on average, but the contempt of that attitude I just described is horrible.

So, returning to Aika, yes, the series has more pantyshots than just about anything, but Aika is a strong female lead, well able to defend herself and stronger than anyone else in the series. I'd say that makes the series less sexist overall than plenty of animes despite the obvious, constant visual objectification.

This is kind of what I meant when I namedropped Aika. The whole objectification thing still applies and has always applied obviously in anime, but anime does tend to empower females. I don't know about these days so much, but when I was growing up watching old OVA's and such, the female characters were always powerful and had crazy abilities while the males usually sat around being nearly useless. Its the impression that I first got about how anime treats female empowerment and whether its true or not, thats the impression that has stuck with me to the present.
 
Mirai Nikki 22



ahaha oh my god, the mirai nikki manga's a trainwreck in it's own right but when you take that and combine in with some QUALITY animation and hilariously over the top censorship you really do have something that transcends the original work into a whole new level of amazing.

PLEASE don't tell me they ruined the
Akise headless scene.
That's one of my favorite scenes in manga period.
 

Hitokage

Setec Astronomer
This is kind of what I meant when I namedropped Aika. The whole objectification thing still applies and has always applied obviously in anime, but anime does tend to empower females. I don't know about these days so much, but when I was growing up watching old OVA's and such, the female characters were always powerful and had crazy abilities while the males usually sat around being nearly useless. Its the impression that I first got about how anime treats female empowerment and whether its true or not, thats the impression that has stuck with me to the present.
What you're missing is that it's all in service of male wish fulfillment. After all, you can't have a magical girlfriend tend to every whim and need if she's not magical.

Watch how a group of otherwise capable women devolve into moeblobs in Infinite Stratos. It's profoundly misogynistic.
 

cajunator

Banned
What you're missing is that it's all in service of male wish fulfillment. After all, you can't have a magical girlfriend tend to every whim and need if she's not magical.

Well that's always going to be part of it.
I dont think there's any avoiding that. Especially since the more empowered a character is, the more the creators try to make her into a fanservice vehicle.
 

wonzo

Banned
K-On!! 19


staring yui in her most challenging role yet! the preview made me realise there's not that many episodes left ;_;

hmmm, is minami-ke worth checking out?

PLEASE don't tell me they ruined the
Akise headless scene.
That's one of my favorite scenes in manga period.
of course they "ruined" it like almost everything else in the series. i guess it'll be in the bd's.

Apparently Jormungand is confirmed to be a split-cour show, with the second half starting in October.
i can't say i'm all that fond of split cours. at least jormungand looks interesting.
 

frostbyte

Member
K-On!! 19

staring yui in her most challenging role yet! the preview made me realise there's not that many episodes left ;_;

hmmm, is minami-ke worth checking out?

First season is great slapstick comedy. All the latter seasons/OVAs are a mixture between slice-of-life and comedy so people tend to think it's boring/sucks after that. It's still ok but they're not what made the first season so good.
 
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