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The Walking Dead - Season 2 - Sundays on AMC

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There are a few relevant articles in the OP. These two in particular are worth a look if you want to information about budgeting, the Darabont departure, etc...

- 'The Walking Dead': What Really Happened to Fired Showrunner Frank Darabont

An agency source says Darabont is "notoriously a pain in the ass" known for "taking a feature-film approach to television," which is meant to suggest that he didn't manage the brisk pace of television well. But an insider says Darabont's approach was what made Walking Dead special. "Frank fights for the show," says an insider. "He doesn't just do what the network wants him to do. … He's a filmmaker, and that's why the show was as good as it was." Sources with ties to the show insist it was on schedule and on budget.

The first half of season two explained!
 
what reason is given?

Because all it takes is one walker to set off a chain reaction with the rest of them. Say if one were to run into a door or window it could be seen as an attempt to get into the house by another walker, who will try to get in and then eventually all of them are trying to get in. Basically monkey see, monkey do.
 
Since this show is out of mini-series/movie contention. (6 eps from season 1)

This show is going to rack up a shit ton of Emmys this year. make-up, special effects, visual effects and other technical nods is already won unless broadway empire have a zombie outbreak.

possibly acting nods, score, and a writing nod for better angels (season finale, season premiere or lead in ep into finale only gets the nod) Wouldn't be surprise if it also get the best drama nod also.



They didn't give two shits about Shane, just Lori and Carl. They just got news that Rick knew about all of them being infected for weeks without even hinting anything. Carrol sort of explained it. :/

Ahahahahaha oh man, wow. No.

If you think this show is going to get writing and acting emmys, even nods, you're kidding yourself. I'm sure it'll pick up a lot of technical awards, I can only imagine how they pulled off Herschel's infinite shotgun, but writing, acting, best drama? you gotta be kidding.
 
Because all it takes is one walker to set off a chain reaction with the rest of them. Say if one were to run into a door or window it could be seen as an attempt to get into the house by another walker, who will try to get in and then eventually all of them are trying to get in. Basically monkey see, monkey do.

Well there was nothing stopping them
hiding in the attic, waiting out the horde, go down a day later, kill the stragglers and bobs your uncle. Hell even one of them could have arranged to distract the horde in a car, bringing them away from the farm then lose them and hide out in a safe zone until its safe to return to the farm...

Why didn't they have these backup plans.. planned?
 
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Well there was nothing stopping them
hiding in the attic, waiting out the horde, go down a day later, kill the stragglers and bobs your uncle. Hell even one of them could have arranged to distract the horde in a car, bringing them away from the farm then lose them and hide out in a safe zone until its safe to return to the farm...

Why didn't they have these backup plans.. planned?

that's gonna be interesting tv show. season 3 more farm house.

GAF complains.
 
The first half of season two explained!

Yes, he demanded a lot. But AMC seems to think Weiner and Gilligan are as well. Maybe AMC just needs better management. The Walking Dead is paying their bills, the last thing I would have done was let Darabont go. His creative vision led to the awesomeness that was Season 1. AMC wanted to cut the budget and dictated that for each episode of Season 2 four hours be shot indoors. The other four could be shot outdoors. The Walking Dead was never meant to take place around a dinner table. Darabont didn't want that at all. That was AMC's doing, and Darabont gave Mazzara his blessing in his stead to deal with the AMC big wigs. The Walking Dead is working off typical network television budgets when it has proven more than worthy of greater investment.
 
the guy that saved andrea...did anyone else get the feeling it was morgan?
edit: are we allowed to talk about the last episode openly? if so, my spoiler isn't a spoiler
Yes, you are. The rule across all television threads: if an episode has aired in its home country, you can discuss freely. That means that people can post openly about Sherlock as soon as it has aired in the UK, and as soon as an episode of Breaking Bad is on you can talk about the content of that episode in the thread without tags.
 

Hahahahaha...

How can any of you say they look at peace with those facial expressions?


Anyways, came in here to say how much I love this show. I just watched season 1 over again just to see if it felt any different, knowing now that
everyone is infected.
I have been watching this show since it started...
 
Yes, you are. The rule across all television threads: if an episode has aired in its home country, you can discuss freely. That means that people can post openly about Sherlock as soon as it has aired in the UK, and as soon as an episode of Breaking Bad is on you can talk about the content of that episode in the thread without tags.

What about Talking Dead, where they tend to at least hint at things that the show itself has not yet covered (like information about that
hooded figure
who totally might be Morgan)?
 
What about Talking Dead, where they tend to at least hint at things that the show itself has not yet covered (like information about that hooded figure who might be Morgan)?
Aired material from the show (TWD) itself is fine, but spoilers from Talking Dead (along with info from previews, promo pics, interviews, etc....) should be tagged.
 
I think its ridiculous how so many people are trying to argue that Lori's reaction to Rick was illogical and doesn't "make sense".

First of all, since when have human emotional responses ever been known to be consistently grounded in logic and rational thinking, especially during times of distress? Second of all, Lori has obviously been developed to be fairly unstable emotionally with clearly conflicting needs and wants. Trying to argue how a character like that would rationally react to news of her husband and young child collectively killing off her ex-lover is just so meaningless; there's just no way to know, period.
 
The problem with discussing interviews/talking dead/etc... is that mezzara and kirkman drop spoilers like it's nobody's business. I love how they just talk like everyone has read the comics. Or maybe I only love because I have.
 
I think its ridiculous how so many people are trying to argue that Lori's reaction to Rick was illogical and doesn't "make sense".

First of all, since when have human emotional responses ever been known to be consistently grounded in logic and rational thinking, especially during times of distress? Second of all, Lori has obviously been developed to be fairly unstable emotionally with clearly conflicting needs and wants. Trying to argue how a character like that would rationally react to news of her husband and young child collectively killing off her ex-lover is just so meaningless; there's just no way to know, period.

I think it makes some sense in a "person could actually behave this way" kinda thing, but it makes no sense that the people making the show are making her this way.

You'd think at some point though the writers/director would notice they're making her the most unlikable character on TV and dial it back a bit.
 
I think it makes some sense in a "person could actually behave this way" kinda thing, but it makes no sense that the people making the show are making her this way.

You'd think at some point though the writers/director would notice they're making her the most unlikable character on TV and dial it back a bit.

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I think its ridiculous how so many people are trying to argue that Lori's reaction to Rick was illogical and doesn't "make sense".

First of all, since when have human emotional responses ever been known to be consistently grounded in logic and rational thinking, especially during times of distress? Second of all, Lori has obviously been developed to be fairly unstable emotionally with clearly conflicting needs and wants. Trying to argue how a character like that would rationally react to news of her husband and young child collectively killing off her ex-lover is just so meaningless; there's just no way to know, period.
Well, we have seen that Lori is unstable, you're right. Which is why her reaction makes sense with her character, but doesn't actually make logical sense. Human emotional responses are consistent with the character of the person from which they come. So in this case, it is consistent. But based on what Lori has said on multiple other occasions, it's not logical. Which is why the audience response has been "I hate Lori." People don't like flip-flopping illogical characters that screw with everyone else. It's not necessarily bad writing, because if the writers are attempting to make her unlikable they're succeeding.
 
I like how Lori is the one trying to bond with Rick, coming up behind him and hugging him, while Rick runs all over the world and doesn't have shit to say to her.

Yea, Lori is the sucky person in the relationship...
 
The worst part about her reaction is that she basically told him to kill Shane a little before then. And now she's all UGHHH GET AWAY FROM ME I'M DISGUSTED BY YOU.

like I said, she tried to play with fire and got burned.
 
The worst part about her reaction is that she basically told him to kill Shane a little before then. And now she's all UGHHH GET AWAY FROM ME I'M DISGUSTED BY YOU.

like I said, she tried to play with fire and got burned.

Is everyone missing that her son Carl shot reanimated Shane? That is fucked up shit for a kid to go through no matter what way you look at it.
 
yeah maybe she should have been watching him ololol.

Also carl seemed pretty cool about it afterward.

Doesn't really matter what Carl seemed like afterwards, we are talking about Lori. Carl pretty much flipped out on the highway if you don't remember, could have been related to his first kill.
 
I don't know, he seemed VERY cool about it. And you were the one that was talking about him. You said it's a fucked up thing for a kid to go through, not "it's a fucked up thing for a mother to have her kid go through that" :P

Also, on the highway he got mad because he was worried about his mom, because unlike her he actually cares about her olol

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I don't know, he seemed VERY cool about it. And you were the one that was talking about him. You said it's a fucked up thing for a kid to go through, not "it's a fucked up thing for a mother to have her kid go through that" :P

Also, on the highway he got mad because he was worried about his mom, because unlike her he actually cares about her olol

Really, when has Carl had time to realize what he has done, or even think about it? Since he has shot Shane, he has been chased by zombies. Think it will probably play out a little more next season.
 
Lori's only fucking purpose on this show is to create conflict from nothing. One of the worst written characters in the history of television.
 

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Why is everyone mad about Rick killing Shane? Lori seems really pissed about the situation. Does she love Shane? -thadude

A: "The group is upset with Rick in general for keeping Jenner's secret and killing one of their own. Murder in a small-knit group is not to be taken lightly, so of course they would be upset. And Lori loves Rick, and she has recently realized that she does indeed love Shane. She almost said so in "Better Angels." She decides to take action by talking to Rick, so when Lori is horrified by Rick's confession, yes, she is upset a man she loved was killed but more importantly, that man was killed by another man she loves and she was a catalyst... She is horrified by her own culpability and is projecting that self-hatred onto Rick."
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Grabbing an excerpt from this related to Lori's reaction:

Why is everyone mad about Rick killing Shane? Lori seems really pissed about the situation. Does she love Shane? -thadude

A: The group is upset with Rick in general for keeping Jenner's secret and killing one of their own. Murder in a small-knit group is not to be taken lightly, so of course they would be upset. And Lori loves Rick, and she has recently realized that she does indeed love Shane. She almost said so in "Better Angels." She decides to take action by talking to Rick, so when Lori is horrified by Rick's confession, yes, she is upset a man she loved was killed but more importantly, that man was killed by another man she loves and she was a catalyst... She is horrified by her own culpability and is projecting that self-hatred onto Rick.

Love the way Mazzara is able to sum it up here. Makes perfect sense to me.

It's basically the same way Lori projected all her hatred onto Shane in Season 1 because she believed that he forced her into becoming an adulteress and potentially lied about her husband being dead. So at least they stayed consistent with writing her character. lol


Also, as I was reading THR's article on the Darabont firing, this jumped out at me:
But this source says that AMC had its own ideas about how to make the show more cheaply. The show shoots for eight days per episode, and the network suggested that half should be indoors. "Four days inside and four days out? That's not Walking Dead," says this insider. "This is not a show that takes place around the dinner table." That was just one of what this person describes as "silly notes" from AMC. Couldn't the audience hear the zombies sometimes and not see them, to save on makeup? The source says Darabont fought "a constant battle to keep the show big in scope and style."

AMC really doesn't deserve this show. I'm absolutely disgusted by how cheap and half-assed they're willing to be regardless of TWD's immense success.

At this point, we all probably don't have to worry about the show ever being cancelled, but I would be more worried about a massive exodus of the crew and throwing the show in a limbo from where it would never return to the same quality as it is now.
 
Another excerpt from the second part of the Mazzara interview:

Is there an end in sight to this show or do you foresee an indefinite run? --BklynChik

A: You know, ask me that after Season 7. Because I think we can go to 7 Seasons at least.

:D
 
Does your vision for Season 3 more resemble the "trapped in a box" feel of Season 2 or the open movement of Season 1? - Grish

A; Moving ahead to Season 3 we're excited to be getting to the meat of Robert Kirkman's comic book. The world opens up, it's no longer claustrophobic, it's out on the road. I think what we've done until now has been very exciting and fun, but I feel it's been prolonged and I feel like just now we're getting to the heart of the matter.
Thank god
 
Finished up watching the last of Season 2. They started to turn it around a bit in the second half, but...

Fuck this show.

Little bits of delicious golden morsels strewn about, but really just makes me sad they deviated so much from the comic's pacing/writing/plot.

I'll still watch more, but I can't help but feel like its only because of curiosity, not because I actually enjoy the thing.
 
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