Yes, I don't think that will be a problem.
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Guild Wars 2 Press Beta [Prepurchase Is Live]
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Yes, I don't think that will be a problem.
Pretty much this. It says to me that they're ashamed of their game if they're not willing to let people talk about it.
NDA's for betas honestly should not exist anymore if they invite people from outside the company to participate.
Freyjadour
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Which is a large part of the problem with discussing the game around these parts.
It gets a pass for any of the shittier news (i.e. cash shop related) to come of the leaks because it was to be the chosen one that would bring the genre out of the slump it has been in for the last 7 or 8 years. So much so that people spend pages in self-justification of said features, services or prices.
Complistic
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Hardly.
I love you
krameriffic
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I didn't know that. They're making the right call I think.
You don't see people streaming or posting screenshots when Blizzard is doing a closed beta or F&F beta.
If they implement this NDA policy in the April betas i can understand being angry and disagree with them(which they won't), but its an invite closed beta. And the last part of your post can be applied to arena net when they start doing the prepurchase betas in late april only that they will have better quality in their product.
Everyone will play it, take screenshots, streaming it, cry tears of joy and more.
Valnen said:
Could be that in this beta they are introducing new elements or stuff that ins't in a good polished state and don't want people to overblown something out of proportion, its a closed invite beta for something.
We've known there would be a cash shop since forever, this is nothing new. The leak is just that, a leak which is not final but 90% of the stuff in there clearly isn't worthy of freaking out over.
RepairmanJack
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I was thinking something along these lines. Also to stop things being shown like what was skipped in that TB video. A non press person would probably talk about or even show what was being done.
If only Anet had the benefit of the doubt from a large section of the MMORPG and game consumer community based on brand identity and years of unprecedented mainstream success. If only.
Hahaha so true!
Having an NDA on betas is standard practice. ANet is just strict about theirs - This isn't anything new.
Without the leak the Cash Shop would've been unveiled in this beta. I'm sure they wanted to keep that from spilling out.
Finished Ghosts of Ascalon. Kinda ended suddenly, but it was still pretty good. It took a while to get going because it had to explain fantasy multiple races, the history of GW1, the brief history between games... it's a lot to get out so it came off as a little exposition-y, but it was still pretty good.
I might pick up EoD just to say I read it. If it's the same size as GoA, I'll blow through it in a couple hours.
I might pick up EoD just to say I read it. If it's the same size as GoA, I'll blow through it in a couple hours.
Yeah I was breezing by Ghosts when I read it in my weird state of sickness last night.
Has this been covered yet? The 'ole microtransactions are real it seems:
http://my.mmosite.com/1cd10251c16a4...og/item/97fe1133345ab8db5b46388c211ef910.html
Pay to win? Fuck that shit.
http://my.mmosite.com/1cd10251c16a4...og/item/97fe1133345ab8db5b46388c211ef910.html
Pay to win? Fuck that shit.
Teknopathetic
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I'm sure people will dominate PvP with all of those dyes they bought.
There's no way I can compete with that dude who has so much cash to waste on crafting bags.
razgriz417
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Lol so much spin in that article. Guy seems to forget there isnt a monthly fee and arenanet needs to keep the servers up somehow. We all knew from the get go that there was going to be a cash shop. There are no game breaking items on there; xp boosts really don't matter since the area you are in scales to your level, the PVP item boosts your gain in PVP xp that is assumed to just give you a wider selection of PVP outfits (not stat boosts). It's awesome that character slots are now on that list, that means people can essentially either pay $10 for an extra slot or get the 800 gems needed via the auction house. This actually goes for the extra bag, bag slot and bank page too.
Only items I have issues with is the megaphone and keys. The megaphone IMO is too cheap, last thing I need is more global spammers. With the keys, it could be another tf2 situation; since we don't know whether the items inside are any good, it's hard to tell whether this will affect gameplay.
Weow some people are so salty over this.
For starters I think being able to trade gems for gold is lame. Might as well encourage people to buy from Chinese farmers while they're at it.
Also I understand the need the cash shop to generate more revenue (as it's F2P). However, the shop is only going to grow, and I'd rather them focus resources on actual content.
As opposed to a stupid cash cow scheme.
For starters I think being able to trade gems for gold is lame. Might as well encourage people to buy from Chinese farmers while they're at it.
Also I understand the need the cash shop to generate more revenue (as it's F2P). However, the shop is only going to grow, and I'd rather them focus resources on actual content.
As opposed to a stupid cash cow scheme.
Lazy Jones
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Apologies if already posted: http://www.twitch.tv/chriskilinc
someone playing the beta
edit: he got scared
someone playing the beta
edit: he got scared
Maleficence
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Isn't this just blatantly ignoring the NDA?
Don't worry, he stopped streaming. The NDA is safe!
It's either this or a subscription. Pick one.
I pick free to play. Which this isn't is, where you have to pay for the core game as well. I'd rather have a subscription based game than this shit as well.
I'm sure the exp boost and increased drop rate will help just fine in pvp.
I agree with virtually everything you said there, just want to point out that cash shop transactions don't go to keeping servers up. Bandwidth is actually incredibly cheap now-a-days and only $4,052,862 goes to the upkeep of EVERY NCSoft title in a financial quarter, whereas the rest of their expenses total to about $109,000,000 a quarter.
So where does the cash shop money go? To the future development of free updates. And I'm not talking about paid DLC content, but all the free bug fixes, balance changes, and features that you'll get for free over the course of the game's life. That's where your money goes.
/end tangent
theMrCravens
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Won't it help rich guilds to race to 80 in the first day or two, then jump in the WvWvW to cap keeps and castles ?
Yup, that's exactly my point.
RepairmanJack
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For the first two weeks maybe. But wvw apponemts get switched around to keep it even and competitive and so there wont be one side constantly winning.
razgriz417
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Lol sorry, when I meant "keeping servers up" I meant paying the salaries of the devs to like you said work on future content and updates.
I find it funny you find the GW2 cash shop so horrible, but then go and say you wan't the game to be F2P.
The exp boosts won't help at all since everyone is scaled to 80 for PvP.
Dinosaur Tamer
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Yes, and personally, I think that is terrible. I am okay with most of the stuff in the leaked shop, but magic find and especially xp boost are just too much for me.
If this turns out to be true, I would easily prefer a subscription system over the item shop.
Edit: I was wrong.
Still, skills don't scale in WvW and a level 80 character will have at least a minor advantage. Also - regardless of any advantage - as someone who takes pride in being a pretty effective player and leveling faster than most players investing a similar amount of time, the idea of a paid xp boost makes me feel cheated.
No, I'm saying a cash shop of this magnitude is befitting of a F2P title. Not a boxed title. I'll happily pay a subscription fee, if it means equality. Which I have done since I've pretty much done since I started playing MMO's.
Being higher level means you can handle stronger mobs which lead to faster skill unlocks. You haven't addressed the whole increased rare drop rate thing either.
and this
I guess.
edit: not
Yeah, they are. Otherwise it'd be no fun for some level 10 to jump into WvW playing against level 80s.
Source: http://www.arena.net/blog/mike-ferguson-on-guild-wars-2-world-vs-world
Freyjadour
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Exactly what I meant by the first statement friend. Difficult to criticize the game for anything without being thrown under the bus with the frothing masses at Guru, etc.
The cash shop could be worse, much worse. That doesn't mean I'm pleased with the state of the blemish on an otherwise great looking game.
So you think it's a bad idea, to point out to Arenet how shitty this idea is?
Then this game isn't for you. That isn't a big deal.
Nah it's flaw in a game, I've been generally impressed about. It's still shitty though.
This changed from "sure buy" to "depends if my friends buy it as well" for me personally(unless they remove the items I have problems with).
Dinosaur Tamer
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Yeah, you are right. They are. I totally misremembered that. Skills don't scale in WvW, though, do they?. So level 10 versus level 80 still won't be completely fair.
Oh god, cash shop misinformation rears it's ugly head.
1. Nobody's salty over it here, but the guru forums are over the deep end.
2. Being able to buy gold for gems means there's a legitimate method for obtaining gold for real world cash, which actually prevents black market gold farmers from gaining a foothold.
3. Supporting content or the cash shop is not an either/or choice, and most of the cash shop stuff to this point has been costume gear / utility items. I don't see them dumping anywhere near as much revenue into costumes as they would new content.
Players get a 20-slot backpack and 4 bag slots by default (from what we've seen in the Beta)
The bag slot sounds like it will just be an extra slot.
You can buy bags in game or craft them yourself; the cash shop is not the only way to obtain bags.
1. Nobody's salty over it here, but the guru forums are over the deep end.
2. Being able to buy gold for gems means there's a legitimate method for obtaining gold for real world cash, which actually prevents black market gold farmers from gaining a foothold.
3. Supporting content or the cash shop is not an either/or choice, and most of the cash shop stuff to this point has been costume gear / utility items. I don't see them dumping anywhere near as much revenue into costumes as they would new content.
Players get a 20-slot backpack and 4 bag slots by default (from what we've seen in the Beta)
The bag slot sounds like it will just be an extra slot.
You can buy bags in game or craft them yourself; the cash shop is not the only way to obtain bags.
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