No it's 4D you just have 2D eyes and can't see it.
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I would love to play games that has as good IQ as Rayman on next gen consoles.
GI.biz: "Wii U less powerful than PS3, Xbox 360, developers say"
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No it's 4D you just have 2D eyes and can't see it.
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I would love to play games that has as good IQ as Rayman on next gen consoles.
airmangataosenai
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Yeah, this isn't true. Perhaps it could do some things better but overall I don't buy it.
And even if it was the Wii was the last system released last gen. This is probably less ridiculous than the original Wii situation, at least initially they'll receive the same support as the other HD consoles, it just won't be as easy to port them over as some Nintendo fans originally told us.
jump_button
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They have not shown a thing that says otherwise.
Simple game like mario was even jaggie!
that called a demo to show what the pad can do did you miss E3 where he clearly say they not game but demos to show ideas what the pad can do
How close is the port?
Capcom ported UMvsC3 to the Vita, doesnt make the Vita more powerful than the 360.
That's a 2D fighting game, though. Darksiders II is probably more resource-intensive.
IlSignorCornetto
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THQ: WiiU is just alot more powerful than current HD consoles it does 1080p very easy.
Epic: It will do things current HD consoles simply cant do its going to be a powerful box.
Crytek: WiiU devkits are very powerful,the specs are very good
Vigil Games: We had the game at the same level as high end pc version in a matter of days and a few lines of code got the game up and running on tablet in 5 mins.
EA: Wii U is not a transitional platform, it is a true next generation system.
that's all folks!
Epic: It will do things current HD consoles simply cant do its going to be a powerful box.
Crytek: WiiU devkits are very powerful,the specs are very good
Vigil Games: We had the game at the same level as high end pc version in a matter of days and a few lines of code got the game up and running on tablet in 5 mins.
EA: Wii U is not a transitional platform, it is a true next generation system.
that's all folks!
BUCKFUSH187
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who cares, the nintendo isnt competing with xbox or PS, so who cares. They make cartoon type games and 2d side scrollers.
Agent Ironside
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I think its pretty obvious that the Wii U is going to be a nice step up from the current gen consoles. Everything is pointing in that direction, from Nintendo hiring Crytek people, to their push for 3rd party next gen. Everyone that thinks otherwise is a dingus.
You're about 100 posts too late.
1.) It's only "debatable" because a lot of people are apparently very stupid. That is hardly Nintendo's fault.
2.) What in the world makes you think you know what matters to Nintendo's audience?
tkscz
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MightyHedgehog
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Man, some of you guys miss the point that Ninty is making a huge leap, performance-wise. Now, with Wii U or whatever, it's that same audio-visual style and quality that, at times begged comparisons with the PS360, but now in proper HD and maybe two card gens of capability ahead of what they were used to with Wii. That's pretty good as Ninty goes, anyway. Who buys multiplatform games on a Ninty system, anyway?
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Hey not everyone can afford all three systems. It would be nice to have Nintendo and 3rd party games on one console.
IlSignorCornetto
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oh sorryT-T
AceBandage
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Why would you need all three for third party games?
Good point. There was previous discussion in the Wii U thread about the 360 having some kind of programming function in greater capacity than Wii U, but Wii U being overall higher. That may be what's being referred to here (maybe it was the # of shaders that was lower based on these comments?).
It's not really a question if Wii U will be overall higher than this gen. The only really important question is if it'll run whatever the primary engine is for next generation or not (e.g. UE4, CryENGINE 3, whatever). If it does and the ports sell decently, it'll get support. If it doesn't or the ports don't sell decently, it won't, in the long-term. Anything else is kind of window-dressing.
MightyHedgehog
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Yeah, that's true. This time around, there should be a general sense of parity with newer multiplatform releases instead of the automatic downgrade into last gen with a standard Wii.
Not competing by selling better.
The big deal, obviously, will be cost, and how many developers will bother pushing the new hardware. If a "AAAA" title is going to cost a crazy amount more to produce, I wouldn't be surprised to see a lot of games being released using current-gen assets rendered at 1080p. At least until the hardware is better understood.
Is there a 32-inch version of that?
Speaking of Vigil Games...
Vigil in 2012: Wii U "has been on par with what we have with the current generation"
Next week...
Vigil Art Director in 2012: Wii U is pretty powerful.
Even Vigil can't decide on its power. lol
Theonik
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Or each person is talking about a different thing. Vigil in 2012, comes from a game director and is talking more about how they are using the WiiU ie no additions that are not on the PS360 versions apart from the tablet. The artist on the other hand is again being vague.
Though I entertain the Tsundere Vigil notion myself. It's as if Vigil consists of several people talking about different things with different jobs or something
Slurpy2k20
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I find this very hard to believe. I mean, you'd have to try really fucking hard to make a console system less powerful than something released 5 years ago. It probably costs like 10% today than what it did then to get the same level of power. My fucking iPad with a mobile chip can render graphically intensive, completely smooth games at 2048x1536 Resolution- this is something thats a few mm thick, doesnt have fans, and is optimized for insanely high battery life, not to mentioned not being built as a gaming device.
So yeah, I call complete bullshit. Don't see how its possible that it wouldnt blow 5 yr old systems out of the water, even if this wasnt their priority. Tech has changed so much since then.
So yeah, I call complete bullshit. Don't see how its possible that it wouldnt blow 5 yr old systems out of the water, even if this wasnt their priority. Tech has changed so much since then.
Wii came out five years after XBox, and didn't "blow it out of the water".
Anything's possible.
the weird thing is that the wii was basically improved gamecube parts, while this is going to be all new innards.
Or each person is talking about a different thing. Vigil in 2012, comes from a game director and is talking more about how they are using the WiiU ie no additions that are not on the PS360 versions apart from the tablet. The artist on the other hand is again being vague.
Though I entertain the Tsundere Vigil notion myself. It's as if Vigil consists of several people talking about different things with different jobs or something
When you work out of the same company, you don't contradict each other. It looks bad for the company when you do so.
Vigil Games isn't that big.
Bending_Unit_22
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Pretty much. The Wii was possible as a small upgrade relative to the Xbox because it used GCN parts that were still in production. Even then it was a small upgrade over a 5 year old system (though of course with a few by then archais limitations), this rumor is less powerful than a 7 year old system. The only real way to do it would be to use mobile parts but we know that isn't the case.
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Yep. It all depends on the manufacturing cost of the Wii U's tablet controller and Nintendo's price point. If they're going for a $250 console like they did with the Wii in 2006 and the tablet controller is expensive to make, it could mean they have to cut corners on the rest of the hardware.
"Running" isn't a statement of relative performance.
Do they even have a reputation?
SquiddyCracker
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That's really impressive, the possibility of Nintendo under-performing the current gen is remarkable!
Cygnus X-1
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No, I meant: VERY obsolete. If Wii U will use less powerful CPU/GPU than X360/PS3, we can estimate the tech would be of the period 2004-2005. Wii U tech would thus be 7-8 years old when it comes out on the market. I meant that old.
ROFL
Dreams-Visions
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anything less than being clearly more powerful would be a disappointment, imo.
Nintendo will only have a few months with the WiiU on shelves before footage from the PS4 and Xbox 720 start leaking...and people will behold the glory of Sony and MS' nextgen offerings and simply wait.
I know it worked out well for them with the Wii, but the Wii's limitations also frustrated many core gamers and perhaps lost a lot of future customers. Repeating the same mistake seems flawed to me.
For some reason, I just can't get used to Nintendo pulling up the rear in console power. It was never true until this gen, and now it seems to be their future.
Nintendo will only have a few months with the WiiU on shelves before footage from the PS4 and Xbox 720 start leaking...and people will behold the glory of Sony and MS' nextgen offerings and simply wait.
I know it worked out well for them with the Wii, but the Wii's limitations also frustrated many core gamers and perhaps lost a lot of future customers. Repeating the same mistake seems flawed to me.
For some reason, I just can't get used to Nintendo pulling up the rear in console power. It was never true until this gen, and now it seems to be their future.
MightyHedgehog
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It seems possible that even a console more powerful than X360 and PS3 is going to have to divide its focus significantly in order to drive both the image and separate logic and input of the tablet controller as well as the one on your home display. I mean, there's no way that tablet is going to be much more than a pure peripheral rather than standalone device, right? So, that means that the host device powering it, the Wii U, will have to split its output somehow...perhaps that's dynamic and/or up to the developer?
Anything's possible in a cartoon movie, and if this thread hasn't proven that life is a cartoon movie, then I'm Bugs fuck'n Bunny.
Theonik
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Maybe so, but what I'm getting at is that all these statements are vague enough that they don't necessarily contradict themselves. And to be honest at this stage and given any presumable NDAs in place these individuals when put on the spot in an interview are unlikely to give a satisfactory answer.
Although I don't believe this (Even based off the technical demos last E3), it really just means that they have a year of being on par and then still selling a ton of 1st Party which is what they care about. They'll get all the 3rd Party until the switch.
To me, the lack of HD was not an issue for me with the Wii, it was the lack of support even within Nintendo. Pump out the games for WiiU (Nintendo has more than enough money to do it) & I'm still getting it. HD Mario & Zelda are must buys.
To me, the lack of HD was not an issue for me with the Wii, it was the lack of support even within Nintendo. Pump out the games for WiiU (Nintendo has more than enough money to do it) & I'm still getting it. HD Mario & Zelda are must buys.
Disorientator
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What if all three "next-gen" consoles have a screen on their main controller?
Wouldn't multi-screen console gaming suddenly become the norm?
I think there are much more ways/reasons to use a second screen than to implement motion controls, which are by nature limited to certain styles of gameplay.
papersleeves
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I just don't believe Nintendo would do the exact same move that caused them a lack of software sale on their platform, 6 years later. Wii UI has to be more powerful than 6 years old consoles. It just makes sense, god damnit.
Green Yoshi
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THQ: http://www.zeldainformer.com/2011/09/wii-u-developer-quote-of-the-day-thq-on-power-and-graphics.html
Crytek: http://hearmiii.blogspot.ca/2011/09/according-to-crytek-wii-u-is-very.html
Vigil Games: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=28401670&postcount=1
EA: http://www.gigwise.com/news/65744/Wii-U-Not-A-Transitional-Platform-EA-Boss-Says
Did they all lie???
DragonSworne
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If this rumor is true, it would mean that relatively speaking, WiiU will be weaker than Wii was compared to the competition.
Wii was more powerful than the Xbox, so for WiiU to be less powerful than Xbox360, it just seems impossible.
Wii was more powerful than the Xbox, so for WiiU to be less powerful than Xbox360, it just seems impossible.
DragonSworne
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Same move??? It would be worse since Wii was more powerful than Xbox.
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