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http://www.scribd.com/doc/87688384/Zimmerman-family-member-letter-to-NAACP

Another part of the racist conspiracy to show that Zimmerman was not racist.

Apparently he'd been planning this killing for years and needed to establish a plausible cover, because he knew that merely "having black friends" would not be enough.

If this is true, hopefully this gives people some more perspective. I've been saying for a while that race shouldn't be highlighted as an issue, and for all we know Zimmerman could not be racist.

Even if this didn't actually occur, the idea that people are jumping to the racist conclusion so quickly is a little unsettling to me. Hopefully as more time passes, the race issue will be let go more and more.
 
So you're equating Donald Trump calling Obama a secret Kenyan Muslim socialist with the people who complained that the conservative Supreme Court handed the 2000 election to Bush? Christ, dude.

Because they couldn't dispute the results of the Obama election like they could with the Gore/Bush election. They aren't equal, and I differ on views of both (Gore won, Obama was born in Hawaii if you want to know where I stand). Doing the whole "equating" angle is ignoring the point he was making. He never called them equal, just examples of the fuckery of the media so spin everything into sensational stories.

My boss still to this day thinks Obama was born in Kenya. This is liberal-hippie-ville Portland of all places, and that view is shared by a shameful amount of people.

but it seems pretty obvious to anyone with fucking ears those aren't the cries of a grown-ass man.

I don't know who's screams it was, I can see both sides.. but saying it's the voice of a kid is misleading. Trayvon was 17, hardly a little kid, we don't know yet if he had his "man" voice. I haven't heard a recording of Trayvon's voice, and as far as I know one hasn't been released.

It's conjecture to say with certainty that it was Trayvon because it sounded like a little kid. If he was 13, that angle plays off better, but he wasn't.

You don't need to make Trayvon seem like a little kid to prove it was a wrongful death.
 
Reality tends to have a liberal bias, and have no doubt that Zimmerman is 100% guilty.
Again I post this. Zimmerman hung up with the 911 operator at 7:15 PM EST and Trayvon's phone call with his girlfriend ends at 7:16 PM EST (the same time she says she heard a man confront Trayvon). Within that SAME minute, the first 911 call came in and a few seconds later (approximately 41), there was a gunshot. The first officer was on the scene at 7:17 PM EST. Now tell me this, based on what we know (including Trayvon screaming for the entire duration of the 911 call). When did Trayvon have time to stop (a quarter mile from his home), turn around, follow Zimmerman, confront him, smash his head against the concrete and break his nose?
 
I don't even see how the "stand your ground" law applies, assuming Zimmerman's account is correct. The existing law would have allowed use of lethal force, since he could not retreat.
 
End of the day, we need more balance in this thread. Better, fairer perspectives from places like the Daily Caller. All this MSNBC stuff is too one sided with a clear racist agenda. We need ever vigilant warriors to protect us from such villains. I, for one, support their efforts!

Yeah, a single Daily Caller article is discussed, with stills of the video being enhanced. We've got ourselves a right wing conspiracy on our hands!

Then 2 days later ABC offers up their own enhancement of the video, coming the exact same conclusion as the Daily Caller article. Right wing conspiracy again!
 
Again I post this. Zimmerman hung up with the 911 operator at 7:15 PM EST and Trayvon's phone call with his girlfriend ends at 7:16 PM EST (the same time she says she heard a man confront Trayvon). Within that SAME minute, the first 911 call came in and a few seconds later (approximately 41), there was a gunshot. The first officer was on the scene at 7:17 PM EST. Now tell me this, based on what we know (including Trayvon screaming for the entire duration of the 911 call). When did Trayvon have time to stop (a quarter mile from his home), turn around, follow Zimmerman, confront him, smash his head against the concrete and break his nose?

It sounded as if Zimmerman was walking while on the call, he was obviously following in some way Martin. If you've seen the map of the grounds this will make more sense. Either Zimmerman followed Martin back behind the buildings through the side of that block of houses to get to the middle walk-way or Zimmerman continued on the sidewalk then went around the other side of that block of houses to the center walkway. They easily would have met back in the middle.

If Zimmerman went around the other side of the houses, his "going back to his vehicle" story would make sense, to a certain degree. Since you could circle back around to where he parked his car that way. It would seem from where the incident happened that at least Martin ducked back to the middle walkway at the left turn passed Zimmerman's vehicle.

There's maps out there, don't have time to copy and paste it onto here, got to get to a meeting.

So Martin didn't have to turn around to meet up with Zimmerman if Zimmerman circle around, they would have met up as a coincidence that way.

The other theory is that Zimmerman followed him back behind the houses.

Those are pretty much the only possible ways to end up where they did in that amount of time.
 
Yeah, a single Daily Caller article is discussed, with stills of the video being enhanced. We've got ourselves a right wing conspiracy on our hands!

Then 2 days later ABC offers up their own enhancement of the video, coming the exact same conclusion as the Daily Caller article. Right wing conspiracy again!

Sorry, only the Martin family lawyer can be treated as an unimpeachable source of facts in this case.
 
I both think Zimmerman is guilty *and* the stand-your-ground law needs to be repealed, but there is a certain snowballing effect going on that makes the case against him in the media look a lot worse than it is, as stuff piles on.

What the media generally is *not* doing in sorting tis out into sold facts, questionable things, and totally pointless things. It's a fair criticism, and I think some of you are coming down too hard on BruiserBear for it.

I don't think stand your ground law should be repealed, it's intent is fine, but it needs to be revised if anything or better enforcement of it. The problem with it is that the intent is fine, but it's abused the way it is written. People like to pull the stand your ground clause on stuff waayyy to easily.
 
You've got some facts messed up here.

First, I never criticized the "mainstream media" for playing up the no injuries video. I said ABC news attached the line "No bruises, injuries" to that video, which I thought was irresponsible on their part. A poor quality video, and they're making definitive statements about bruises/injuries? That's irresponsible journalism. Not even up for debate.

But the DailyCaller video where they say the can 'see an injury' on the back of the head - that was something you were completely willing to stand behind, to post as evidence to the contrary. You did not seem to have any issue with their claims - which is my entire point. You complain about people finding things that fit their narrative, complain about the media making claims off some grainy video - then you source a media site that makes a claim off a grainy video and use it to fit your narrative.

Ironically, just yesterday Good Morning America (ABC) were the ones to show the "enhanced video", and injuries being visible.

There was also a "conservative site" that made the same claim earlier, and their analysis did come to same conclusion ABC eventually did.

I bet when Good morning America made that analysis, you stopped giving them grief eh?

The bottom line is that I was arguing in favor of uncertainty, rather than an exact point of view, like YOU are. There is a massive difference between our two points of view, but for some reason your brain interprets "not agreeing with me", as "must be choosing the other "side".

Not even close to an issue - I had no problems with you disagreeing with me, you could disagree, give me a counter argument - and I would do the same - no issue.

My problem is, again, with your holier than thou attitude, you are as 'guilty' of the absorption of media bias as anyone else, and it's obvious that when it fits your argument, well the media is no longer being bias - is it?

Again, big differences here. The video comes, with ABC labeling it with "no injuries", and many people immediately posting here "No injuries! No broken nose!".

In the video though we see an officer examining the back of his head, and we see what appears to be some sort of marks on the back of his head. We also have a police report saying there was "blood on the back of his head". Do you see where this is going?

What are you even saying here? The ABC video said "Surveillence video has surfaced that appears to show Zimmerman without any injuries" - how is that particularly bad, or un-newslike? How is what the daily caller did any different? And why does a police officer LOOKING at the back of his head have anything to do with it? It could easily be said that he was checking to see if there was anything there of note - and his lack of interest indicates that there isn't.

Do you not see how it's ironic that you give something so innocuous so much value, but then complain when people give the video itself value?

3 different arrows pointing in the same direction. There is evidence to suggest those things amount to something being there. Whether it was severe or not isn't the point. People making immediate claims of "nothing" stand in direct contrast to other pieces of evidence. In the end I hope we have pictures to settle this once and for all.
Three different arrows that you have given value

1. Police looking at the back of his head - this can mean absolutely anything, yet you choose to apply a particular narrative to it
2. Something you claim is an injury, via your own personal perspective - but trump around like it is something objective, regardless of arguments to the contrary
3. The police report - do I need to tell you why something like that might be taken with extreme criticism in this case?

I dare you to look at the gifs from a few pages back and tell me those daily caller enhancements are wounds. Dare you.


You're kidding yourself if you believe the mob mentality in this thread allows for any respect of anyone now towing the mob line. It's happened a hundred times in this thread already. Someone shows up with a contrary view, and is replied to 5 times telling them how racist, dumb, or insane" they are.

And I'm being the judgmental one?

You're a fool if you think you can just step into a thread, throw up a contrary position, talk down to everyone around you and expect to be treated with respect. How many contrary positions have I held, have other people held - that people have not met with disdain and yelling? Quite a few - what makes your position different? You're acting like a dick.
 
Yeah, a single Daily Caller article is discussed, with stills of the video being enhanced. We've got ourselves a right wing conspiracy on our hands!

Then 2 days later ABC offers up their own enhancement of the video, coming the exact same conclusion as the Daily Caller article. Right wing conspiracy again!

Hey angry bear! Was just pointing out that both places may/may not spew a ton of shit. Where did I point out ANY particular article? I didn't, don't need to. For every positive piece on Trayvon Martin, there's some "burglary tool" or "thug life" article just conveniently popping up. Funny how those aren't criticized with such fury as the crap that offends the "balance" seekers.

But yeah, for some reason we need to police this thread. Even though we don't understand why his story is soo special. Even though we are tired of hearing about out. Its laughable.

Gonna throw on my safety colors and ride down to the Lincoln memorial..love Dat dude!
 
I don't think stand your ground law should be repealed, it's intent is fine, but it needs to be revised if anything or better enforcement of it. The problem with it is that the intent is fine, but it's abused the way it is written. People like to pull the stand your ground clause on stuff waayyy to easily.

I do think it should be repealed. I have enough issues with Castle Doctrine, but extending it to public grounds essentially is over the line to me. I don't like laws that encourage people to use deadly weapons. Standard laws governing self-defense should be enough.

You see I actually have a problem with the catch all "media" title as if they are intrinsically positive or negative to a story like this. There are organizations and shows dedicated to sifting through the facts and actually have been very barebones (NBC nightly news being one of them) about the case and when interviews are taken they are merely giving people who might be pertinent to the case a chance to tell their side of the story. And then we have personality shows which have an agenda and 'most' don't try to hide it who add on top of this. Yes those shows generally do not make a story less convoluted and they do work based on emotion. That doesn't mean I can't take something crucial away from an exchange or an idea even if I largely don't agree with it. For instance the 'sound experts' that were on lawrence's show last night felt like smoke and mirrors, but the interview with the family of Trayvon Martin was worth listening into, especially in contrast to the family of the accused.

I don't think of the media as a cabal with an agenda, but rather more like a force of nature with different elements. I agree with your summary.
 
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/02/10983757-fbi-questions-people-in-trayvon-martin-case-begins-parallel-investigation

FBI questions people in Trayvon Martin case, begins 'parallel investigation'

FBI agents on Monday were questioning potential witnesses in the Trayvon Martin shooting, confirming to NBC News that the agency had begun a "parallel investigation" that focuses on whether the teen's civil rights were violated.

Agents are seeking information on George Zimmerman's background and whether he was racially motivated when he pursued Martin after calling a 911 police dispatcher about his presence in the community, an FBI official told NBC.

The agents were at the Retreat at Twin Lakes, where Martin was shot dead by Zimmerman, the gated community's neighborhood watch captain.

The state of Florida is conducting its own investigation in the shooting and that one is being overseen by a special prosecutor.

Although the Justice Department two weeks ago publicly announced it would examine potential civil rights violations, the arrival of bureau agents represents a new phase in inquiries into the case.


A senior law enforcement official confirmed that one potential piece of evidence is records of Zimmerman's prior 911 calls to police dispatchers.

The call sheets show that five of seven phone calls Zimmerman had made since last August involved what he viewed as suspicious activity by young men identified as "black males." But the call sheets do not indicate whether Zimmerman was asked about the race of the suspects or volunteered that information.

Zimmerman, who has not come forward to talk about the shooting, acknowledged to police that he shot Martin but insists it was self-defense.

Also Monday, lawyer's for Martin's parents said they would ask the Justice Department to investigate the local prosecutor's interactions with police handling the probe into their son's death.

The Justice Department initiated a query on March 19, but the family wants them to look into possible interference by State Attorney Norm Wolfinger's office with the Sanford police investigation of Martin’s Feb. 26 death, NBCMiami.com reported.


The Sanford Police Department requested an arrest warrant from Wolfinger’s office in the shooting, but the state attorney's office held off until the case could be reviewed further, according to NBCMiami.com.
 
Where is the proof?And dont tell me it just because he said he wasn't there because that is very weak.

Nope his word is infallible to Zoe. Her reply is a direct admission of that without needing to go any further. Yet let anyone else show anything but rigid objectivity, let anyone use common sense and reasonable deducing from facts presented and we're all biased, hiveminded and wrong.

I love that simply because he disputed it, it means he didn't do it.
 
You in response to Crakatak







But by all means keep making yourself look silly Zoe

He said in his video it's stated the lead prosecutor drove 50 miles that night to be there. The lead prosecutor disputes ever being there in the link I posted in reply. In reply to that he continues to say that the lead prosecutor drove there. So did he just not read the link or is he disputing the prosecutor's word?


Nope his word is infallible to Zoe. Her reply is a direct admission of that without needing to go any further. Yet let anyone else show anything but rigid objectivity, let anyone use common sense and reasonable deducing from facts presented and we're all biased, hiveminded and wrong.

I love that simply because he disputed it, it means he didn't do it.

At best, Sharpton is relaying second hand information. I would take the word of the prosecutor who says it is up to the DoJ to investigate who was there and who made what calls.
 
He said in his video it's stated the lead prosecutor drove 50 miles that night to be there. The lead prosecutor disputes ever being there in the link I posted in reply. In reply to that he continues to say that the lead prosecutor drove there. So did he just not read the link or is he disputing the prosecutor's word?
Zoe are you kidding me?You really think just because he claim he didn't its all true? Case close right?

What didn't this guys lie about, what have they done to show such confidence?

Can someone update me on what's happening now? Too much shit to slog through.
Nothing new really, we have that 911 tape were the EMT canceled a ambulance for Zimmerman.
 
He said in his video it's stated the lead prosecutor drove 50 miles that night to be there. The lead prosecutor disputes ever being there in the link I posted in reply. In reply to that he continues to say that the lead prosecutor drove there. So did he just not read the link or is he disputing the prosecutor's word?


Oh how dare he or anyone else question the word of prosecutor Wolfinger

At best, Sharpton is relaying second hand information. I would take the word of the prosecutor who says it is up to the DoJ to investigate who was there and who made what calls.

But of course you would.
 
Again I post this. Zimmerman hung up with the 911 operator at 7:15 PM EST and Trayvon's phone call with his girlfriend ends at 7:16 PM EST (the same time she says she heard a man confront Trayvon). Within that SAME minute, the first 911 call came in and a few seconds later (approximately 41), there was a gunshot. The first officer was on the scene at 7:17 PM EST. Now tell me this, based on what we know (including Trayvon screaming for the entire duration of the 911 call). When did Trayvon have time to stop (a quarter mile from his home), turn around, follow Zimmerman, confront him, smash his head against the concrete and break his nose?
Umm...why did you reply to my post, saying "have no doubt that Zimmarman is 100% guilty"? We are in agreement here.
 
Zoe are you kidding me?You really think just because he claim he didn't its all true? Case close right?

What didn't this guys lie about, what have they done to show such confidence?


Nothing new really, we have that 911 tape were the EMT canceled a ambulance for Zimmerman.

I don't think Zoe is making any claims about the authenticity of his word or how it's case closed. At most, she's saying that she doesn't believe the claim that he was there is necessarily accurate. If it's as simple as some random person saying so, sure, I'd agree.
 
I don't think Zoe is making any claims about the authenticity of his word or how it's case closed. At most, she's saying that she doesn't believe the claim that he was there is necessarily accurate. If it's as simple as some random person saying so, sure, I'd agree.

No one has said definitively he was there, yet no facts are out about the alleged visit and she's already drawn a conclusion that his word, not yet supported by any confirmation that he wasn't present is good enough to believe.

That, my dude is quite alarming.
 
I don't think Zoe is making any claims about the authenticity of his word or how it's case closed. At most, she's saying that she doesn't believe the claim that he was there is necessarily accurate. If it's as simple as some random person saying so, sure, I'd agree.
The problem is she said is word is good enough already.
 
No one has said definitively he was there, yet no facts are out about the alleged visit and she's already drawn a conclusion that his word, not yet supported by any confirmation that he wasn't present is good enough to believe.

That, my dude is quite alarming.

I think in this situation it's dangerous to automatically assume that any claim made has validity, I haven't looked into it, but does anything corroborate him being there? Multiple witnesses, documentation, video feed etc? What's the source of the claim - I really don't know, if the evidence is there and Zoe is hands waving it away, that's one thing - if it isn't there, is her doubt really so bad?


The problem is she said is word is good enough already.
If she said that, that is a bit odd - but I don't know if that's what she's trying to get at. It might just be some miscommunication, but to me it sounded like she was saying that she just wasn't convinced he was there based off evidence - so she'd wait til someone could actually confirm, ie, the DOJ.
 
Family Member Of George Zimmerman To The NAACP: 'There Will Be Blood On Your Hands'
The letter rips the NAACP for the way that Zimmerman has been convicted in the public mind, and says that the entire Zimmerman family has gone into hiding out of fear for their safety.

Here's a sample:

If something happens to George as a result of the race furor stirred up by this mischaracterization of George there will be blood on your hands as well as the rest of the racists that have rushed to judgment. You need to call off the dogs. Period. Publicly and swiftly.

But the most interesting part of the letter letter includes a brief story of how Zimmerman did activist work on behalf of a black homeless man who was beaten by the son of a Sanford, Florida police officer–work he did alongside the NAACP.
http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/02/z...n-your-hands-if-george-is-hurt/#ixzz1qzfHyDmy
Oh give me a break.
 

Holy. Shit.

I think in this situation it's dangerous to automatically assume that any claim made has validity, I haven't looked into it, but does anything corroborate him being there? Multiple witnesses, documentation, video feed etc? What's the source of the claim - I really don't know, if the evidence is there and Zoe is hands waving it away, that's one thing - if it isn't there, is her doubt really so bad?

If I told you a guy punched me, and he says he didnt, then Zoe comes along without hearing either side and says "he didn't hit you because he said he didn't hit you", you don't find anything disturbing about that?

I'm not saying the guy was there, but it's insane to jump to either extreme and say he was or wasnt without ANY further development in the story considering the controversy surrounding the case. No one else did that but Zoe.
 
I think in this situation it's dangerous to automatically assume that any claim made has validity, I haven't looked into it, but does anything corroborate him being there? Multiple witnesses, documentation, video feed etc? What's the source of the claim - I really don't know, if the evidence is there and Zoe is hands waving it away, that's one thing - if it isn't there, is her doubt really so bad?



If she said that, that is a bit odd - but I don't know if that's what she's trying to get at. It might just be some miscommunication, but to me it sounded like she was saying that she just wasn't convinced he was there based off evidence - so she'd wait til someone could actually confirm.
This is argument is going no where, lets just wait and see on this part sue it will come to light soon like everything else did.
 
This is argument is going no where, lets just wait and see on this part sue it will come to light soon like everything else did.

That's fine, I just don't want to see people (understandably) lose their heads over this and start assuming the worst of people. It's too easy to become bitter and untrusting when stuff like this happens, and that's a tragedy.
 
Holy. Shit.



If I told you a guy punched me, and he says he didnt, then Zoe comes along without hearing either side and says "he didn't hit you because he said he didn't hit you", you don't find anything disturbing about that?

I'm not saying the guy was there, but it's insane to jump to either extreme and say he was or wasnt without ANY further development in the story considering the controversy surrounding the case. No one else did that but Zoe.

It's more like Zoe is hearing two different accounts, doesn't know either of the people and the accused is saying "look, you don't have to believe me, but I bet you the police can prove my innocence". At this point, if Zoe feels comfortable maintaining an innocent until proven guilty perspective, it's not so abhorrent, is it?
 
It's more like Zoe is hearing two different accounts, doesn't know either of the people and the accused is saying "look, you don't have to believe me, but I bet you the police can prove my innocence". At this point, if Zoe feels comfortable maintaining an innocent until proven guilty perspective, it's not so abhorrent, is it?


There's a difference between saying innocent until proven guilty and saying that a person did not do something AT ALL based off of their word. Come on Kinitari.
 
There's a difference between saying innocent until proven guilty and saying that a person did not do something AT ALL based off of their word. Come on Kinitari.

It really just depends on her position, which I would argue we don't know exactly. If she is saying "Obviously, the prosecutor says he wasn't there so he wasn't" - that is one thing. If she is saying "Since we really don't have any evidence that he was there except one guy claiming so, I'd rather just assume he wasn't until a satisfactory amount of evidence says otherwise", that's something else entirely.

I guess I just assume she means the latter.
 
Umm...why did you reply to my post, saying "have no doubt that Zimmarman is 100% guilty"? We are in agreement here.
Umm...because I wanted to post facts showing why he's 100% guilty. In your case, you made a blanket statement and I felt a statement like that needed actual facts/proof.
 
If she is saying "Obviously, the prosecutor says he wasn't there so he wasn't" - that is one thing.

Ahh I see, I didn't notice. It sure is interesting that he drove that far to overrule the leading prosecutor.

Her response and following justification for it:

But he didn't?


In the link I posted the disputed ever being there that night. It was the on-call prosecutor.

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Family Member Of George Zimmerman To The NAACP: 'There Will Be Blood On Your Hands'

http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/02/z...n-your-hands-if-george-is-hurt/#ixzz1qzfHyDmy
Oh give me a break.

How did Hamlet write it?

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks."

So apparently Zimmerman was an "activist" for black people now?? Damn, where can I buy this man a dashiki? Let's not let the stereotyping and profiling get in the way.

Oh and claiming blood will be on the hands of the NAACP is THE most flagrant case of PROJECTION I have EVER seen in FUCKING LIFE! REALLY PEOPLE? George Zimmerman KILLED an innocent teenager!!! That's how we all ended up here in the first place you morons!

Every defense they make convinces me more and more that he's guilty. It's freakin astounding! Staggering stupidity mixed with naked hate.
 
How did Hamlet write it?

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks."

So apparently Zimmerman was an "activist" for black people now?? Damn, where can I buy this man a dashiki? Let's not let the stereotyping and profiling get in the way.

Oh and claiming blood will be on the hands of the NAACP is THE most flagrant case of PROJECTION I have EVER seen in FUCKING LIFE! REALLY PEOPLE? George Zimmerman KILLED an innocent teenager!!! That's how we all ended up here in the first place you morons!

Every defense they make convinces me more and more that he's guilty. It's freakin astounding! Staggering stupidity mixed with naked hate.

it's all been a ridiculous circus for the last 2 weeks now.
 
Her response and following justification for it:

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I see your point - and honestly it feels weird defending Zoe -this- vehemently, if she wants to clarify her position, that's her prerogative. I guess I just want to assume that she's holding that position because of this:

At best, Sharpton is relaying second hand information. I would take the word of the prosecutor who says it is up to the DoJ to investigate who was there and who made what calls.

But it does sound like she is taking a hard lined position based on his word. If she wants to clarify her position, she should probably do it herself now, for all I know I am misrepresenting her and she really just does believe the dude 'just cause'.
 
I was reading somewhere else and came upon this gem:

I did a little digging and came to this conclusion:
Zimmerman was acting within his own rights, protecting his neighborhood.
Martin was a 17yr old thug who had NO business being there, but he technically could go through the area.
He should have used common sense and not looked like a thug.
Zimmerman had the right to follow him to make sure the guy wasn't going to do anything.
It exploded from there.
If anything, Martin should get the charges b/c he did the crime.
I might would have done the same thing Zimmerman did, YOU might have done the same thing.
You just never know until YOU are in the situation with YOUR neighborhood and YOUR life on the line.

The black panthers have a bounty on him.

I wonder where that person dug...
 
I see your point - and honestly it feels weird defending Zoe -this- vehemently, if she wants to clarify her position, that's her prerogative. I guess I just want to assume that she's holding that position because of this:



But it does sound like she is taking a hard lined position based on his word. If she wants to clarify her position, she should probably do it herself now, for all I know I am misrepresenting her and she really just does believe the dude 'just cause'.

I understand what you're saying and what she said there, but the two aren't mutually exclusive.

I think we're as close to being on the same page as we're going to be regarding that though.


I was reading somewhere else and came upon this gem:



I wonder where that person dug...


We know the filth is out there, but can we please not further shit up the thread with that kind of thing? It just stokes the fire even more. I definitely understand your frustration with it. It's sad that you can go to any comment section regarding this story and find the same sentiment, REPEATEDLY.
 
Questions on whether Zimmerman's father coached him on what to say before or during a police reenactment of the shooting.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/04/03/457593/trayvonmartin-family-attorney-questions-robert-zimmerman/?mobile=nc

In an interview with ThinkProgress, Martin family attorney Natalie Jackson raised serious questions about the role of George Zimmerman’s father, Robert Zimmerman, in the case.

Specifically, Jackson pointed to Robert Zimmerman’s presence during police questioning of his son. The New York Times reported the following:

The day after the shooting, George Zimmerman, according to his father, returned with at least three police officers to the Retreat at Twin Lakes, back to that grassy area where plaintive cries for help had gone unanswered. The investigators, accompanied by someone with a video camera, wanted him to re-enact the events of the night when the two strangers had stood their ground.

Mr. Zimmerman’s father watched from nearby.


Jackson noted that Robert Zimmerman was a retired magistrate judge who “issued warrants” and knows “what probable cause needs to be” to justify an arrest. His presence at the questioning, according to Jackson, was unusual and potentially inappropriate because “we don’t know what coaching went on.”

In an interview with Fox 35 Orlando, Robert Zimmerman, speaking of his son’s conduct, said “If a law enforcement officer presented those facts to me and requested a warrant, he would absolutely be denied.” Robert Zimmerman’s unusual role could help explain how George Zimmerman avoided arrest despite the recommendation of the lead homicide investigator that he be charged with manslaughter.


Seperately, Ben Crump, Jackson’s co-council, sent a letter to the U.S. Deputy Attorney General urging him to investigate a number of irregularities in the conduct of local authorities. Crump wrote that he believed “family members of shooter George Zimmerman were present at the police department” the night Trayvon Martin was killed.

Robert Zimmerman appeared to acknowledge he had spoken to the police and the state’s attorney in the case. In his Fox 35 interview, he said, “No one knew I was a retired magistrate judge. I didn’t mention it to the police. I didn’t mention it to the state attorney’s office.” He did not elaborate on the substance of his conversations with the police or prosecutors.
 
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