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[Sethos]

65 or 75c is high haha? how long have you been building computers? seems low to me considering its quite warm outside now and every card i've had for the past 10 years or so ran at around those temps with MUCH higher noise and quite a few of those had custom cooling solutions on them. not seen a single person criticise the stock cooler on a 680 so far, with good reason

never noticed any downclocking in BF3 with stock fan curve, certainly no performance drop but i don't have the gpu speed on the osd so i coudn't say for sure but there seems to be a lot of reviews showing higher temps with no performance loss, say the hardocp 680 overclocking article from earlier on today

Oh for years my good man and I've used third party coolers ever since they became widely available and viable, specifically Accelero Xtreme on both my 4970x2 and 5970 which did wonders on both cards, pushed the 4970x2 down to 24c idle, whereas the stock was closer to 50 and the 5970 to 30c and stock was a tad over 50. So don't think you using reference coolers all your life makes you a unique. Just because you've found a reference cooler that is better than those god-awful reference coolers of the olden days, doesn't mean it's good - Get over it. 75c is fucking awful for any kind of GPUs. It's not hard to improve on the vacuum designs that has been plaguing the market for years.

So as revolutionary says, it's decent for a REFERENCE COOLER, like 8mpg is good for an American muscle car. Still makes it shit in the big picture.

That REV.2 ICY vision which wasn't even designed specifically for that 680 can get it down to 54c full load compared to the 85c full load they also recorded of the reference cooler. That just goes to show there's a massive room for improvement.

Saying 75c isn't high ... holy shit, what am I reading.

 

[Hawk269]

Indeed, some people are just extremely impatient

On another note, Galaxy has updated their 4GB OC model with clock speeds, was TBD yesterday. So a step in the right direction for its release.

I just saw that, but did you notice the boost clock did not go up as much though. They have the core clock at 1110mhz, with boost at 1176...which seems odd to me. The boost should be alot higher.

 

[Sethos]

I just saw that, but did you notice the boost clock did not go up as much though. They have the core clock at 1110mhz, with boost at 1176...which seems odd to me. The boost should be alot higher.

Yeah, I did notice and it's odd. Could either be a limitation of the boost mechanic or perhaps they're hitting the magical 70c roof before it starts to throttle it back down at anything above that?

 

[Hawk269]

No, I haven't used a GTX 680 because I refuse to buy reference cooler designs. 75c is WAY too much and 65c is pushing it. That's not even good numbers, most high-end reference coolers can do that they just do it with a bit of noise. Kudos for being more silent but the temps are still awful. Plus that's STOCK temps, overclock it just a tiny bit and you're pushing 80c load which is waaaaaay beyond what I'd ever want to be running. People can buy reference coolers all they want, it's going to be a cold day in hell before I do and they are not praise-worthy, not by a long shot. They are made cheap.

And in this very page, it has just been stated the card downthrottles at 70c so you can't maintain an overclock. Gee a reference cooler sounds ballin' in that situation.




By the way, any word on how it does with the Vram temps? Believe the Accelero Xtreme caught some flack for doing a poor job of keeping the Vram cool.

With all due respect, you have no clue what you are talking about. I have 2 680's in SLI and the highest temp (WITH OVERCLOCK) has been 64c and that is on the top card. I have a +100 offset and +400 on the memory and in the most intense situations the highest temp read has been 64c. I sit at idle between 28-30c, again in SLI. So even with a modest OC, my temps are really good and my fan speed has never been higher that 64 since I have a custom fan profie that matches the heat to the fan speed. I can get cooler if I ramp up fan speed to 70 when the cards hit 60.

In my experience the coolers on these stock cards are really good compared to previous cards I have owned. They are pretty damn quiet as well and I barely hear the cards...it is not till they hit around 60 on the fan that I even can hear the cards over the standard case fans...when gaming I cannot hear them regardless.

 

[Sethos]

With all due respect, you have no clue what you are talking about. I have 2 680's in SLI and the highest temp (WITH OVERCLOCK) has been 64c and that is on the top card. I have a +100 offset and +400 on the memory and in the most intense situations the highest temp read has been 64c. I sit at idle between 28-30c, again in SLI. So even with a modest OC, my temps are really good and my fan speed has never been higher that 64 since I have a custom fan profie that matches the heat to the fan speed. I can get cooler if I ramp up fan speed to 70 when the cards hit 60.

In my experience the coolers on these stock cards are really good compared to previous cards I have owned. They are pretty damn quiet as well and I barely hear the cards...it is not till they hit around 60 on the fan that I even can hear the cards over the standard case fans...when gaming I cannot hear them regardless.

You manage to outperform every single SLI review I've seen by a huge margin. Impressive.

Guru3D only managed 83c under full load.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-680-sli-review/5

And that's stock.

So you raised the fan speed:

Going over videos on YouTube, like; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHCpNvSb5dU

You people call this shit quiet? Are you people deaf?

 

[bee]

Oh for years my good man and I've used third party coolers ever since they became widely available and viable, specifically Accelero Xtreme on both my 4970x2 and 5970 which did wonders on both cards, pushed the 4970x2 down to 24c idle, whereas the stock was closer to 50 and the 5970 to 30c and stock was a tad over 50. So don't think you using reference coolers all your life makes you a unique. Just because you've found a reference cooler that is better than those god-awful reference coolers of the olden days, doesn't mean it's good - Get over it. 75c is fucking awful for any kind of GPUs. It's not hard to improve on the vacuum designs that has been plaguing the market for years.

So as revolutionary says, it's decent for a REFERENCE COOLER, like 8mpg is good for an American muscle car. Still makes it shit in the big picture.

That REV.2 ICY vision which wasn't even designed specifically for that 680 can get it down to 54c full load compared to the 85c full load they also recorded of the reference cooler. That just goes to show there's a massive room for improvement.

Saying 75c isn't high ... holy shit, what am I reading.

oh dear, as i said its 65c with the click of 1 button, idle temps don't matter to me simply cos i run multi monitor and 120hz which means the card idles at higher clock speeds anyway, old gtx 260 idled at 65c with 2 monitors enabled and was never an issue, never keep a card for over a year anyway. 75c aint high whatever u say and i've used plenty of custom cooling solutions over the years. you really are quite abrasive though, i wont be seeing your posts anymore

 

[Sethos]

oh dear, as i said its 65c with the click of 1 button, idle temps don't matter to me simply cos i run multi monitor and 120hz which means the card idles at higher clock speeds anyway, old gtx 260 idled at 65c with 2 monitors enabled and was never an issue, never keep a card for over a year anyway. 75c aint high whatever u say and i've used plenty of custom cooling solutions over the years. you really are quite abrasive though, i wont be seeing your posts anymore

You keep telling yourself that, if that justifies your purchase and makes you happy.

 

[Hawk269]

You manage to outperform every single SLI review I've seen by a huge margin. Impressive.

Guru3D only managed 83c under full load.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-680-sli-review/5

And that's stock.

So you raised the fan speed:

Going over videos on YouTube, like; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHCpNvSb5dU

You people call this shit quiet? Are you people deaf?

For reference, these are the cards I had prior to the 680's and is quieter than any of them even at full load.

460
480
580 Regular
580 MSI Lightning
580 Classified

Yes, they are way quieter. Also, my custom fan profile as stated matches temp to fan speed, so when I hit 50c, the fans are at 50. I am not sure why you are going with temps from a benchmark since they tend not to use custom fan profiles. I have never met anyone that is into PC gaming and an enthusiast that uses stock fan profiles...most all use a custom fan profile to ensure temps are in check. All I can tell you is my own experiences and for me these cards are the quietest cards I have ever used and at the speed I am getting these are the lowest temps at full load I have seen.

You can call people deaf if you want, but in real world acustics when your rig is right there, to me these cards are very quiet.

 

[Sethos]

For reference, these are the cards I had prior to the 680's and is quieter than any of them even at full load.

460
480
580 Regular
580 MSI Lightning
580 Classified

Yes, they are way quieter. Also, my custom fan profile as stated matches temp to fan speed, so when I hit 50c, the fans are at 50. I am not sure why you are going with temps from a benchmark since they tend not to use custom fan profiles. I have never met anyone that is into PC gaming and an enthusiast that uses stock fan profiles...most all use a custom fan profile to ensure temps are in check. All I can tell you is my own experiences and for me these cards are the quietest cards I have ever used and at the speed I am getting these are the lowest temps at full load I have seen.

You can call people deaf if you want, but in real world acustics when your rig is right there, to me these cards are very quiet.

Yes, we've established this reference cooler is better than other reference coolers a few times.

And I'm just confused by all the mixed messages I'm getting. People claim it's really quiet. Okay sure, I look up stock temperatures and clocks and it is quiet. Then people claim they have it running at temp thresholds way below what any review can hit, so they must have ramped up the fan speed either manually or with profiles - Already at a smidge above stock speeds, you can really hear that fan and as it slowly goes up it sounds like the glory days of reference designs, a vacuum cleaner. So people ( Like you ) claim to be running at almost 20c under stock, while still being quiet and much higher fan speeds. It just doesn't add up.

Oh and someone mentioned this reference cooler got a lot of praise etc. I honestly haven't seen much of that, haven't seen much attention paid to them at all. Few mentions I've seen on Hardforum and the likes are they tend to get quite noisy as the fan ramps up which is to be expected.

As I just said to the other guy, if the reference cooler floats your boat, you are fine with its noise level and it does everything you need I'm more than happy for you. I still think they are poorly designed compared to what's available, the temperatures are too high, make too much noise when they start going above 50% fan speed and apparently that is just as true with this card. I'm personally waiting for the 4GB versions with either a proper non-reference design cooler or I'll slap a third party on there.

I might just have a very different opinion of quiet.

 

[demigod]

75c is fucking hot, i should know.

For reference, these are the cards I had prior to the 680's and is quieter than any of them even at full load.

460
480
580 Regular
580 MSI Lightning
580 Classified

Reference cards are quieter than the 580 MSI Lightning? Sorry but I don't believe that. Also the link Sethos posted, the fan starts to sound really loud at 70%.

 

[scogoth]

75c is fucking hot, i should know.

LOL 470s man, currently at 90C and thats cold!

 

[Shambles]

Pfft, my 4870 is frequently rocking 90C while under load. Disabled one of the GPU fans that isn't PWM controlled on my Palit :S You people and you're new-fangled, low temperature tech.

 

[Sethos]

Pfft, my 4870 is frequently rocking 90C while under load. Disabled one of the GPU fans that isn't PWM controlled on my Palit :S

Real men hit 100, go do it

 

[BoobPhysics101]

75c is fucking hot, i should know.




Reference cards are quieter than the 580 MSI Lightning? Sorry but I don't believe that. Also the link Sethos posted, the fan starts to sound really loud at 70%.

75c is extremely cool for a GPU.

 

[Old Gimlet Eyes]

75c+? Jesus that seems really high to me. My twin frozr 5770 never goes above 50c under load and barely ever gets above 50% fan speed. Cool and quiet, just how I like it.

 

[BoobPhysics101]

75c+? Jesus that seems really high to me. My twin frozr 5770 never goes above 50c under load and barely ever gets above 50% fan speed. Cool and quiet, just how I like it.

That's 'cause you're not overvolting and OC'ing, hitting over 230 Mhz extra on the core. Get yo stock baby GPU outta hurrr

 

[Sethos]

75c+? Jesus that seems really high to me. My twin frozr 5770 never goes above 50c under load and barely ever gets above 50% fan speed. Cool and quiet, just how I like it.

For a stock card 75c is very high, in my opinion. However a lot of heavy users tend to OC their GPUs as they don't give a toss about life expectancy and all that, once you start doing anything to a GPU core the temps start to climb significantly. Especially increasing the voltage, as Boob mentions.

 

[Hulud]

Eww. 70c ceiling? I was thinking about buying one of these things but now I'm not so sure...

My room is hot and my 460 hits mid 80s often with a 850mhz OC. 70c seems very low (for a max temp) to me.

 

[scogoth]

Eww. 70c ceiling? I was thinking about buying one of these things but now I'm not so sure...

My room is hot and my 460 hits mid 80s often with a 850mhz OC. 70c seems very low (for a max temp) to me.

No 90C is the ceiling, 70C is when it starts lowering in the GPU boost down to normal.

 

[J-Rzez]

Think the Galaxy 4GBs might hit sooner

Yeah, I only go with EVGA though. Never had an issue with them, and if I did they still seem to have the best and most reliable warranty in the biz. I'm sure the galaxy would be fine, just I'm a bit loyal to EVGA at the moment I guess, great luck with them.

 

[BoobPhysics101]

Yeah, I only go with EVGA though. Never had an issue with them, and if I did they still seem to have the best and most reliable warranty in the biz. I'm sure the galaxy would be fine, just I'm a bit loyal to EVGA at the moment I guess, great luck with them.

EVGA can kiss my ass, their RMA department is pretty fail. Anecdotal, of course.

 

[·feist·]

Water cooled Galaxy GTX 680.. er, "Water Cooled."

Nicknamed "Water God."

 

[Hawk269]

75c is fucking hot, i should know.




Reference cards are quieter than the 580 MSI Lightning? Sorry but I don't believe that. Also the link Sethos posted, the fan starts to sound really loud at 70%.

You can beleive what you want..we are all entitled to do that, but when you have 2 fans on one Lightning and you have 2 lightnings, that is 4 fans running. With a good overclock, I had those fans as high as 80%, so that is 4 fans at 80%, highest temp was 75c and those 4 fans were louder than the 1 fan on the 680 (or 2 fans for 2 cards). The lightnings are also not a external exhaust, so my case temps also went up since alot of the heat is dumped into the case.

 

[ss_lemonade]

75c+? Jesus that seems really high to me. My twin frozr 5770 never goes above 50c under load and barely ever gets above 50% fan speed. Cool and quiet, just how I like it.

My old 8800 GTS used to hit 100+ almost every time I fired up a modern game exe (especially the original Crysis lol), and that was at like 80% fanspeed. Its just so friggin hot over here at my place, especially during summer, and with my AC unit busted back then, I just had to get used to the temps it was putting out.

 

[isamu]

Guys, have any of you ever owned an AMD 5XXX series card? I currently own a 5870 and was wondering how much powerful is the nVidia 680 over the AMD 5870?

The 5870 was top of the line a couple years ago so what kind of an upgrade would I be looking at if I moved to the nvidia 680? Much better framerates?

 

[mr stroke]

Finally found one on Amazon after searching for a week straight. Amazon has some ZOTAC 680's in stock now if any one is still looking.

 

[StoppedInTracks]

LOL @ that "fuck you ATI" pic

I know that feeling bro. Coming back to nVidia, to your second hardware love (first was 3dfx) from an ATI adventure. It was mostly fun, sometimes very unfun but the feeling something was missing, that it is not "the" relationship was always in the back of my head.

 

[BoobPhysics101]

Guys, have any of you ever owned an AMD 5XXX series card? I currently own a 5870 and was wondering how much powerful is the nVidia 680 over the AMD 5870?

The 5870 was top of the line a couple years ago so what kind of an upgrade would I be looking at if I moved to the nvidia 680? Much better framerates?

65-90% better depending on the game...

 

[aeolist]

http://semiaccurate.com/2012/04/06/will-28nm-rain-on-nvidias-financial-parade/

Interesting article

Wonder why nVidia's having so many issues with TSMC

 

[·feist·]

TSMC 28nm capacity in large shortage
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20120405PD218.html

Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company's (TSMC) 28nm foundry capacity has been drastically short of demand from Qualcomm, AMD and Nvidia mainly, but the shortage is expected to relax at the end of the third quarter of 2012, according to industry sources.

Qualcomm, in view of the shortage, has shifted some orders to United Microelectronics, but has been unable to meet its clients' demand for processors for smartphones and tablet PCs, the sources indicated.

AMD launched the 28nm-based Radeon HD 7970 in the first quarter of 2012, but has actually shipped a relatively small volume of the GPU due to TSMC's short 28nm capacity, the sources noted.

Nvidia launched only one 28nm-based GPU, GeForce GTX 680, in late March and has had to delay the launch of Kepler series GPU models due to the shortage, the sources said.

While yield rates of its 28nm process are slowly improving, TSMC is conservative about expanding 28nm foundry capacity in order to maintain gross margins, partly accounting for the capacity shortage, the sources said.

 

[isamu]

Guys, have any of you ever owned an AMD 5XXX series card? I currently own a 5870 and was wondering how much powerful is the nVidia 680 over the AMD 5870?

The 5870 was top of the line a couple years ago so what kind of an upgrade would I be looking at if I moved to the nvidia 680? Much better framerates?

65-90% better depending on the game...

sorry but I'm calling bullshit on that. Source?

 

[artist]

sorry but I'm calling bullshit on that. Source?

Why is that so hard to believe? He's right.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_680/27.html

 

[Krappadizzle]

My 680 should be here today. Finally OC'd my i7 920 to 3.8Ghz and that made a huge difference in SKYRIM on 460 sli'd hitting about 45 fps on avg. I'm assuming the 680 will keep me @ 60. Is this a correct assumption?

 

[TronLight]

Did anyone already tried to install the 301 driver on a 570? It seems possible, lol

 

[BoobPhysics101]

Did anyone already tried to install the 301 driver on a 570? It seems possible, lol

Uh, yes? Been using it since day 1. Just go get the custom INF I uploaded here:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=36658096&postcount=308

 

[TronLight]

Uh, yes? Been using it since day 1. Just go get the custom INF I uploaded here:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=36658096&postcount=308

Just to know... Any problem?

 

[BoobPhysics101]

Just to know... Any problem?

Nope. Great driver. Grab it while it's hot!

 

[BoobPhysics101]

Anyone see GTX 680's available? I cancelled my order for one a few days ago but now I'm ready to buy. :O

 

[Krappadizzle]

Anyone see GTX 680's available? I cancelled my order for one a few days ago but now I'm ready to buy. :O

Thought you had a "hookup"? Or a line on getting some cheap ones?

 

[BoobPhysics101]

Thought you had a "hookup"? Or a line on getting some cheap ones?

I do. But those things take time. Especially on a product that is in very short supply. I was thinking about just grabbing one now and then when 'hookup' comes in, run them in SLI or return/sell the 1st one I bought.

99 problems but 1st world ain't one

 

[Krappadizzle]

nowinstock.net is a good resource. I got lucky by f5'ing newegg for the Evga superclock+. Nowinstock checks a few different places except the egg. They'll e-mail immediately when the 680 is in stock. I need to log into there because they have emailed literally 15 times in the last 2 days saying a 680 was available.

 

[BeEatNU]

Thought you had a "hookup"? Or a line on getting some cheap ones?

I do. But those things take time. Especially on a product that is in very short supply. I was thinking about just grabbing one now and then when 'hookup' comes in, run them in SLI or return/sell the 1st one I bought.

99 problems but 1st world ain't one

lol

boob I told you to keep that order!

 

[BoobPhysics101]

lol

boob I told you to keep that order!

You were fuckin' right :'( Good call sir, bad call on my part.

nowinstock.net is a good resource. I got lucky by f5'ing newegg for the Evga superclock+. Nowinstock checks a few different places except the egg. They'll e-mail immediately when the 680 is in stock. I need to log into there because they have emailed literally 15 times in the last 2 days saying a 680 was available.

That's a great site! Thanks for the tip.

 

[Hawk269]

It is so random. I was on Newegg at around 4:00pm PST and they had about 30 Superclocked Evga's...those lasted around 10 min..then at 4:20pm PST the eVGA Hydro Coopers were available..those lasted around 5 min.

 

[SirButterstick]

Question: would an AMD Phenom 2 x4 975 BE severely bottleneck this card?

 

[BoobPhysics101]

Question: would an AMD Phenom 2 x4 975 BE severely bottleneck this card?

Depending on the game + resolution, yes/no. On Battlefield 3 for example, it might not.

 

[SirButterstick]

Depending on the game + resolution, yes/no. On Battlefield 3 for example, it might not.

What games do you think it would bottleneck?

 

[BoobPhysics101]

What games do you think it would bottleneck?

Skyrim, Assassin's Creed games, Crysis 2, The Witcher 2 and who knows what else. If you want max performance and no chance of a CPU bottleneck, you need a 2500k OC'd.

 

[SirButterstick]

Skyrim, Assassin's Creed games, Crysis 2, The Witcher 2 and who knows what else. If you want max performance and no chance of a CPU bottleneck, you need a 2500k OC'd.

Hmm, I guess in that case I think I'll wait for my next system build to dive in.

 

[BoobPhysics101]

Hmm, I guess in that case I think I'll wait for my next system build to dive in.

You have a 580 right now, right? If I were you, I'd sell that ASAP before the value drops to nothing, buy a 680, then just throw in a 2500k + Z68 motherboard ($250 or less I believe) when you're ready.