It was a reference to the "vise" in your post
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The Formula 1 2012 Season |OT| The Year of the...uh...Platypus?
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brotkasten
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Of course it does. By watching the GP you're actively supporting Ecclestone and his business, pouring more money in his wallet.
But I fail to see the relevancy of a business case of hosting it, to me following a sport I enjoy, to the safety of the people involved. They are mutually exclusive in the terms of this discussion. And for me, the number one thing is the safety of the teams, drivers, circuit staff and the supporters for hosting an event.
I will watch the race because I love F1, but it doesn't mean I support everything it does, with this being one of them. If the race goes ahead, I will be vocal in my displeasure of the sport's decision. One good thing about today's social networking sites.
Diablohead
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I missed quali but watched the race, was good but I did expect more overtaking and hot action on the track, DRS zone was a little too big imo every attempt was always an overtake by a clear mile.
Sucks that shumi suffered due to a funny wheel nut gun
Sucks that shumi suffered due to a funny wheel nut gun
Myoclonic Jerk
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brotkasten
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You're right, it does make sense. I'm a bit tired and I failed to see your point earlier. Sorry about that.
Myoclonic Jerk
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I don't safety is an issue in Bahrain. I know some friends over there and its business as usual
Sure some pics look scary, but all it takes is a couple of stupid people to throw a petrol bomb on something and take a picture
Let's not act like we know what's going on over there. We don't
Its only a matter of days and we'll know the truth about Bahrain. Thousands of reporters and team personnel will be there
EDIT: Bahrain Circuit chairman
Of course he's biased but he has some valid points there. I personally think that F1 is good for Bahrain, for the opposition before their govt.
Sure some pics look scary, but all it takes is a couple of stupid people to throw a petrol bomb on something and take a picture
Let's not act like we know what's going on over there. We don't
Its only a matter of days and we'll know the truth about Bahrain. Thousands of reporters and team personnel will be there
EDIT: Bahrain Circuit chairman
Of course he's biased but he has some valid points there. I personally think that F1 is good for Bahrain, for the opposition before their govt.
Pretty good race. Very disappointed for Michael, and he handed it great, as usual. Lovely to see 7 cards in the line all racing for position.
I'm not really a fan of the China track - I prefer a track with more elevation changes. I think Bahrain could be a disaster - there will be trouble, if not at the track, then as close as the protestors can get.
I'm not really a fan of the China track - I prefer a track with more elevation changes. I think Bahrain could be a disaster - there will be trouble, if not at the track, then as close as the protestors can get.
ReadingRambo
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He needs to start bashing heads in. His Zen-like calm about everything is getting on my nerves. He's 1/3 for finishing races this year. It's time for mild annoyance at the very least.
brotkasten
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I think he's seeing things a bit different, now that he saw Britney win in the same car he's driving. Before that I was sure he was just there for the fun and because he can't without F1.
Myoclonic Jerk
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Schumi has nothing to prove
He looked very proud when Rosberg won. He could be there to lift up the team as he knows it would be difficult for him to compete with Rosberg, and it looks like he's enjoying it
So for the same reason, it makes no sense for him to bash the team, instead use this opportunity to lift their spirits even higher
I quite like Schumi now, never thought I'd do.
EDIT: I also wouldn't be surprised if he voluntarily choose to play a second fiddle to Rosberg to raise his chances of a WDC
He looked very proud when Rosberg won. He could be there to lift up the team as he knows it would be difficult for him to compete with Rosberg, and it looks like he's enjoying it
So for the same reason, it makes no sense for him to bash the team, instead use this opportunity to lift their spirits even higher
I quite like Schumi now, never thought I'd do.
EDIT: I also wouldn't be surprised if he voluntarily choose to play a second fiddle to Rosberg to raise his chances of a WDC
Wax Free Vanilla
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Hey, don't sweat it - I should have made my initial point clearer!
True, I am only going by media reports. But at the same time, the fact there are a sizeable number of people questioning the decision makes me nervous for everyone involved - it's clearly not all rosy. All it takes is one person to cause a disaster, and with tensions as it is, that person is more likely to believe in doing it.
I think he's far too experienced to let a single race (or two) cause him to stress out in public. One gearbox problem (I think), a wheel nut, and it gives a really bad start to the season, but the car is competitive and he knows it.
No sense in upsetting members of the team by calling them out. The team know what they did wrong and will try to make sure it doesn't happen again.
Mercedes always had this multi-year building plan before they felt they could get to the top, and this year is looking great.
Copying may not be so easy. To find space to route pipes from the rear wing to the front wing is going to be very difficult if there's no space. The cars are build pretty tight, so may not be possible.
Sky should be really worried about those figures. Thier 6th highest viewed programme only had 9000 viewers last week?
I really cannot see a dedicated F1 channel lasting beyond this season.
that hurts my eyes.. woah
brotkasten
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Are they showing more than the F1 weekend and reruns of that F1 legends documentary?
Myoclonic Jerk
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For Schumi to complain or make negative comments, I don't think it would help for this incident. I think he did exactly what any good leader would have done. He knows the mechanic who messed up is still replaying it in his head constantly. It does no good to complain about it to the whole world. He did the best thing he could, say it's not his fault it's a team effort and everyone will be motivated (positively) for the next race.
I feel the same way. I was really hoping he could hold on for 3rd in Canada last year.
Schumi has nothing to prove
He looked very proud when Rosberg won. He could be there to lift up the team as he knows it would be difficult for him to compete with Rosberg, and it looks like he's enjoying it
So for the same reason, it makes no sense for him to bash the team, instead use this opportunity to lift their spirits even higher
I quite like Schumi now, never thought I'd do.
EDIT: I also wouldn't be surprised if he voluntarily choose to play a second fiddle to Rosberg to raise his chances of a WDC
Yeah I said the same thing to my friend yesterday. I never liked him back in the Ferrari days. He was super arrogant. But I really like him now. Yesterday was the proof that his first years after the comeback brought back his ego down and he really sound like a cool guy now. I like that.
I guess I could even say the same thing about Ferrari. They were so incredibly annoying and arrogant back in the Todt days but now with Dominicali they are communicating a lot more with the public and the press and are overall a lot more open.
Myoclonic Jerk
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Hey, don't sweat it - I should have made my initial point clearer!
True, I am only going by media reports. But at the same time, the fact there are a sizeable number of people questioning the decision makes me nervous for everyone involved - it's clearly not all rosy. All it takes is one person to cause a disaster, and with tensions as it is, that person is more likely to believe in doing it.
You're absolutely right. It kinda reminds me of this
I never liked Ferrari, even when Kimi was there I was rooting for macca and Kimi, now I hate them even more for obvious reasons
They have The F1 show (new one each week) & F1 Legends(I think there is only 6 of these in total), the season reviews & the races/qualifying.
They just repeat these over and over through the week
Myoclonic Jerk
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Myoclonic Jerk
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An outrage, why is he not in a Raikonnen t-shirt!
I'd never impose anything on my son. He should choose whomever he likes when he grows up
..If he chooses Ferrari I'll kill him
Myoclonic Jerk
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Sleeplessnights
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Without Massa, would Rob lose his job or would they assign him to Checo?
Myoclonic Jerk
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There has to be chemistry between the driver and his race engineer. At the end he's a Ferrari employee, if they think he's good they'll retain him for Chicco, unless Massa take him with him to HRT?
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Sometimes GAF can hurt
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Schumi has nothing to prove
He looked very proud when Rosberg won. He could be there to lift up the team as he knows it would be difficult for him to compete with Rosberg, and it looks like he's enjoying it
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EDIT: I also wouldn't be surprised if he voluntarily choose to play a second fiddle to Rosberg to raise his chances of a WDC
The American commentators speculated that he was holding everyone back in the beggining to give Rosberg room, which is very un-Michael.
But I do agree that he seems more vested into the team as a whole and does not see himself as #1 driver like he used to at Ferrari. He is realistic that he may well not be #1, particularly now that Rosberg is ahead in points and has been faster so far.
ReadingRambo
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Think it was more down to the cars (besides Merc) being pretty well matched for the race. The ones that weren't up to snuff were passed very easily while those that were competitive were difficult to pass (as it should be).
To be fair, if that's the case, the BBC should count, well, Lao. And all the Laos out there in the world.
Edit: Speaking of which, has Lao's little comment been edited out of the forum that's on the website?
It hasn't been edited out, just checked.
I'm actually getting the feeling that Schumacher is actually trying to help Rosberg improve and win. There's no doubt that Schumacher is driving the best since his comeback and that Rosberg still has the edge on him after three years, but Schumacher essentially almost has the dream team he had around him in his Ferrari days, maybe he's trying to replicate that to help Rosberg lead the team.
Schumacher has nothing to prove, he wants to win sure, but he's already won 91 races and seven titles. He very much leads the team imo, perhaps he's grooming Rosberg to be the best.
I might just be clutching at straws, but I'd like to think that's the case when he knows he can't win.
Also; LOL at the viewing figures. Less than half a million average for the first race live on the BBC? Have fun with that license until 2017 Sky. If it wasn't for Game of Thrones I wouldn't watch any Sky programs at all other than F1 when it's no on the BBC.
frontieruk
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I thought they reduced the length of the DRS zone wouldn't that reduction in distance limit the maximum speed the DRS could add while making a KERS defence more effective?
infact yup they did reduce the the zone by 50m http://totalf1.com/full_story/view/412724/FIA_opts_for_shorter_DRS_zone_in_China/
Myoclonic Jerk
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That's stupid of them. By the time cars reach the DRS zone they are almost on max speed and DRS wouldn't contribute to the acceleration
stupid stupid..
Kimi would've won the race
Myoclonic Jerk
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I'm finding the Schumacher / Alonso bias quite boring now tbh.
Edmond Dantès
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He's not opposed to helping a team mate in a race as evidenced by the 1999 season. If the team's needs surpass his needs, he's the best number two driver you can have as Eddie once said.
And those complaining about Michael's laid back attitude in interviews, have you ever seen the Silver Baron publicly complain about his team's performance or other issues at any period in his career? He's too intelligent to do that. He deals with these matters in private away from the media leeches and always supports the team in public no matter how poorly they're doing. That's one of his defining attributes.
That's stupid of them. By the time cars reach the DRS zone they are almost on max speed and DRS wouldn't contribute to the acceleration
stupid stupid..
Kimi would've won the race
Yup I posted during the race that it starts far too late, needed to start the zone sooner. Before the cars got up to 7th
Schumacher's arrogance is spot on. It's not like he's coming off as a better person/driver through his comments.
Foliorum Viridum
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This weekend really highlighted how great DRS is for making an exciting race, I think. The first half of the race was a snooze because the DRS zone was wrong.
Shame, too, because the hairpin is great for defending against DRS (See Hamilton last year).
Shame, too, because the hairpin is great for defending against DRS (See Hamilton last year).
frontieruk
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That's stupid of them. By the time cars reach the DRS zone they are almost on max speed and DRS wouldn't contribute to the acceleration
stupid stupid..
Kimi would've won the race
I knew watching the Sky build up would prove useful, shame that was the only point that was worth hearing.
last year it was to easy to pass, this year to hard until tires went off, whats the bet the DRS will be put half way between last years start point and this years start point next year?
Myoclonic Jerk
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