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They won't actually be the same game since that's impossible in the end, because the 3DS game will have to be designed with 3D in mind. But they could still work together somehow.
Wii U Speculation thread IV: Photoshop rumors and image memes
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shadyspace
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Yeah, at least make one of them interesting.
But, but that analyst said Activision has no plans to support the Wii U.
I'm not keen on the idea myself..
....but it makes sense as it helps them push both their new systems (the 3DS still isn't out of the woods in the west just yet) and will likely allow a bigger marketing spend due to the greater rewards of being on two systems.
I'd still love a true 2D Mario platformer with the quality of animation seen in Wario Land Shake It..but it seems unlikely to happen considering their current thinking.
GameplayWhore
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That feels rightish.
Aha, I did some more hunting. Life to date Hardware sales in the US based on NPD data as of the end of November 2011. A quick check of December 2011 NPD numbers should give a solid total LTD to end of 2011. So somebody do that.
Anyway, through 2011 November:
DS – 50,530,001
Wii – 37,624,494
Xbox 360 – 30,934,373
PlayStation 3 – 19,041,921
3DS – 2,462,000
http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/NPD_December_2011 (we still trust vgsales wikia, right?)
Wii - 1,060,000
Xbox 360 - 1,700,000
PS3 - 936,000
So totals would be:
Wii=51,590,001
Xbox 360=32,634,373
PS3=19,977,921
So software totals from the aforementioned legit looking source:
Wii=289,708,604
Xbox 360=296,972,794
PS3=165,816,744
I forgot… why were we playing current-gen sales age on this next-gen spec thread again?
Edit: I accidentally used DS hardware numbers for Wii's calculation, and now it's fixed. Thanks idwl!
Two classic 2d mario games in a short period is the least believable for me.
So the same game or two really different take on 2d platforming.
But even in that case, that's just crazy. It worked with ds and wii cause the games were far from each other in time.
For now, that's like gygas, I can't grasp his true form.
So the same game or two really different take on 2d platforming.
But even in that case, that's just crazy. It worked with ds and wii cause the games were far from each other in time.
For now, that's like gygas, I can't grasp his true form.
So we have Iwata announcing at GDC(?) or somewhere that a 2d mario game is in the works for the 3ds and now Miyamoto and Nintendo PR confirming that a new 2d mario game based on NSMBmii will be shown at E3?
These games must be inter-related somehow, it seems like a bad move to release 2 not related 2d mario games in the same year, and I'm assuming both of these games will be released sometime in 2012 or else Nintendo shouldn't be talking about them yet.
But how "related" can they be? Cross platform play? And for the love of god no more NSMBds/wii artstyle.
These games must be inter-related somehow, it seems like a bad move to release 2 not related 2d mario games in the same year, and I'm assuming both of these games will be released sometime in 2012 or else Nintendo shouldn't be talking about them yet.
But how "related" can they be? Cross platform play? And for the love of god no more NSMBds/wii artstyle.
I dont know exactly...but thanks for the diggin and the right numbers!!
you mixed up wii with ds
nintendors
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so DarkSiders 2 is being delayed till sometime in August ,,,,, maybe to coincide with WiiU launch ???
-Pyromaniac-
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too bad it seems like the launch is in mid november
I think we're stuck with that style for at least these two titles. Who knows for afterwards, though..
nintendors
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too bad it seems like the launch is in mid november
I just have this strange feeling that it isnt !! I dont know why but it seems like a late august launch for me ( or I wish for)
ColdBlooder
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The only thing that should be a sure sign of an incoming Nintendo doom is a positive Pachter comment about Nintendos future.
As long as he keeps saying "But but but... NOW there doomed! For sure this time!", everything is fine. I call it the "Pachter reverse rule"
As long as he keeps saying "But but but... NOW there doomed! For sure this time!", everything is fine. I call it the "Pachter reverse rule"
I actually don't see why all eShop games wouldn't also be available for Wii U/Upad. Take away the 3D and you've still got the core mechanics of those games.
Jason's Ultimatum
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Junior, it'll never happen. November is the release date.
GameplayWhore
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Sales-age is always uncertain when sleep-dep is involved. :O
Thanks, I fixed it, probably even enough to be relatively accurate. Interesting there, Xbox 360 software numbers are a hair over Wii's now (now = end of 2011).
GameplayWhore
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Aye, that's why I was contented when that news site posted all those generally positive analyst predictions on the Wii U a couple days ago. At first, I was like "Oh, shit, analysts are positive, that means Nintendoomed!". Then I saw that Pachter said something negative and was all "Whew, dodged a bullet there!".
frankie_baby
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A summer release was probably nintendos plan originally and they probably thought one of their competitors would've released this year also, when they knew that wasnt happening they pushed back til xmas
I hope not.
Kinda hoping that E3 demo from last year was just something they put together quickly. I'm still holding out for a new art style.
GameplayWhore
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That and they might be hesitant for a nonstandard release after the 3DS (their only hardware, not counting revisions, to release earlier than the standard Nintendo "Sunday before Black Friday" date) had its initial sales problems. Nintendo is fiscally risk averse, generally speaking.
Agent Unknown
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Looks like there's a good chance Wii U will have a nice, dedicated YouTube app:
http://m.ign.com/articles/2012/04/17/youtube-developing-for-next-gen-consoles
I'm very excited about this as I used to watch MST3K episodes on my Wii browser all the time (non-DVD released eps) until the browser stopped being updated. The Opera browser is so far behind now that all YouTube vids will stop playing after 5-10 min. And if they're starting development now, hopefully that means it will be available at/soon after the Wii U app store is launched.
http://m.ign.com/articles/2012/04/17/youtube-developing-for-next-gen-consoles
I'm very excited about this as I used to watch MST3K episodes on my Wii browser all the time (non-DVD released eps) until the browser stopped being updated. The Opera browser is so far behind now that all YouTube vids will stop playing after 5-10 min. And if they're starting development now, hopefully that means it will be available at/soon after the Wii U app store is launched.
GameplayWhore
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They'll give us a new art style once the current art style stops selling in perpetual beast mode. Being two of the highest selling games of the generation would encourage Nintendo to make the followup games visually similar, even if they massively muck around with the mechanics, as they are apt to.
That is exactly the problem and you explained it well. I thought about that a long time ago as soon as they started talking about innovative features AND streaming. They don't go well together.
The Wii Pad screen will likely be used as a convenient menu / HUD 95% of the time when using the TV. When the game is played on the pad only, then you'll have to go through a menu screen like normal.
Games that use touch will still be playable most of the time (I'm thinking in a Fruit Ninja kind of way) but anything that's truly innovative would pose a problem. Either streaming WILL be mandatory or there's gonna be stickers/feature sets on the front of the box saying "stream compatible." Personally I think it's better to just ensure compatibility across the board to lower consumer confusion. Additional schemes can be added optionally that don't have a significant impact on gameplay (rear view mirror on first person racing game, etc).
Oh, and for the split screen solution some members are tossing out: Think about that for a bit. Look at your 3ds screen or iPhone screen sideways, and realize how shitty it would be to play like that.
You're right. For some reason that didn't register in my head until now. Now I can't see a new art style happening
Nice. Hopefully it's better than the on on the 360.
ColdBlooder
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GameplayWhore
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I'm hoping there's some sort of API/library that works like this:
function game_menu() {
if( tv_mode ) { drc->overlay_menu(); }
else { game->pause(); drc->overlay_menu(); game->resume(); }
}
Er, except with, you know, actually intelligent handling like events or signals and slots. But you get the idea: A simple library that will, when you have access to the tv, pull up the "pause" menu without pausing the action. But when you have only the DRC, it actually does pause the game and replaces the screen (or overlays onto it) with the pause menu. It would be nice if this were automagical for devs with whatever middleware they're using to code their game.
JoshuaJSlone
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Wii U should no more be able to run 3DS code than it can run PS3 code.botty said:
Agent Unknown
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The search function will instantly be 100x better, that's for sure. I just hope it doesn't take as long for them to release it as the 360 version did.
Oh my.. I'd love to see both come out on the same day..
AceBandage
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So the 360 and PS3 are getting a Bond collection of sorts. And we know Skyfall is heading to Wii U.
Wonder if Nintendo got some exclusive deal for the game.
Wonder if Nintendo got some exclusive deal for the game.
AMAZING avatar man!
I changed it a little. I hope you dont mind
I like! Haha.. It'd make for a funny t-shirt.
ColdBlooder
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I like! Haha.. It'd make for a funny t-shirt.
Speaking of tshirts... We so need an official "My Body Is Ready" tshirt with Reggies face on it!
Whenever anyone of us has the opportunity to see Reggie on an event or something, should wear it
What do you mean? Like timed exclusive?
AceBandage
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Or maybe complete exclusive. Get the game out around the same time as the movie to help drive system awareness.
Just a thought.
The eShop / Virtual Console is where Nintendo really needs to get their shit together. Even if they have to have two download files, there's no reason it can't be integrated. If someone buys an NES game on their 3DS, they need to be able to play it on the Wii U and vice-versa. I'm still pissed that I bought Punchout on the Wii AND the 3DS and they didn't even optimize the 3DS version (start button to uppercut sucks / no pause upgrade, etc). And it's not like the U couldn't handle Metroid Fusion if I wanted to play it on the big screen, etc.
For Wii U I want to see generic but nice looking arcade cabinet style borders with widescreen assumed. I want to see game specific ones too, just like the Super Game Boy had. I want to see achievements / point systems for all games (console and VC).
Even better is if the Wii games we already bought are linked so we don't have to buy them again. Just patch them with the new features and stop being cheap. I also want to see some price reductions or variable pricing... not every NES game is worth $5, most SNES aren't worth $8, etc. Oh, and some key Gamecube and even Wii games available at launch for no more than $15/$20. Even better if they go into the game code so we can see Dolphin-like HD.
The VC could be so money for them if they just put forth the effort. The laziness is so un-Nintendo like it makes me wonder if they've lost their touch a bit. Hire some teams and get on that shit. Don't be a 3DS disaster and not have it ready for launch and then having it suck when it does come.
Agent Unknown
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One more thought on the YouTube blurb, it'd also be awesome if they added streaming support for the Upad.
radioheadrule83
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It'd be nice, but if they have the power to - I think Sony would try and block one of their competitors from enjoying any kind of exclusive, synergistic success story from one of their soon to be released motion pictures...
Oh I see. I thought the title was announced for both 360/PS3 already or am I mistaken? GoldenEye 007 for Wii was exclusive for a while so I can see it happening again for the Wii U.
shadyspace
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I'd be willing to spend another 50 dollars on the Wii U if that went towards increasing the range of the controller. That's my one real concern about Wii U.
Wiz
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How far is the range? I don't see it being much of an issue either way though, if it's meant to be a controller primarily.
I was wondering the same thing. Or maybe Shiggy's non-reveal was actually about 007 Collection?
All I want in a Wii U Bond game is a baccarat mini-game where your cards are concealed on the subscreen, and the TV view is first person of your opponents sitting around the table.
GameplayWhore
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We haven't been told yet. Presumably, it'll work well with line of sight distance at any reasonable point in a living room. Figure at least fifteen feet, twenty feet if they want to cover their bases. After that, or if a wall's involved, all bets are off and you'll likely see massive artifacting or tearing.
Just a WAG.
Anyway, we need it to be extended so we can go to the bathroom without needing to ask our moms to bring the bucket.
Maybe there will be a third party dongle that will boost the signal? Assuming A) the range is very low or B) that's even possible.
I think we won't know the range until the system is released. Nintendo will surely be very conservative with what it says publicly about the range.
frankie_baby
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If that's true, that's disappointing. I like the idea of having the console in the living room and being able to play the Wii pad in the bedroom, for example, and around the house. Maybe that's unrealistic, do we really know much about the technology limitations yet? It would really suck if you go out of range and the game crashes.
frankie_baby
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I guess if you go out of range the game will pause
…that's totally wicked!
It makes me want to randomly buy a Vii.
*follows url*
You guys! The "game" section on this tablet's advert has like seven Super Mario icons, a Link, and a StarFox! It's basically being pushed as a cheap up-to-N64 emulator (but is also a low-spec Android machine).
This one is actually tempting, as shitty West-of-Pacific knock-offs go.
edit: I see you all covered this stuff really, but I wanted to just post my knee-jerk reaction anyway.
Oh your reactions are welcomed
Actually i edited my post because i don't want it to appear as a promotion for this product, i just wished to talk about its shape, a borderline copy of Wii U padlet. Don't wanna risk anything, i'm still a junior. Oh no, i'm not complaining, like the famous philosophers Kool & The Gang said: "juniors are FRESH, FRESH, EXCITIIIIIING, lalalalalalaaaaa !". Members are overhyped !It will be the RUIN of completionists. I already witness some people going crazy with the Kid Icarus cards, with pre-orders from every shops, physical or online, acquisition of gaming magazines, spending of the totality of their nintendo stars, etc, to have 150 blisters and maximizing their chances to get all the set.
I'm picturing very well a living room full of Nintendo figurines, with 16x units of Pikachu, 25x of Mario, etc, invading the place, infuriating the housewife, generating a storm of conjugal disputes resulting in tv-like dramas, luxury dishes broken, divorces, and whatever. This, my friends, is an overlooked danger that Big N will bring to our universes, our every day lives. We MUST be careful !!!!
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