Marvel's The Avengers |OT| (Dir. Joss Whedon) [Spoilers unmarked]

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So...
will they introduce Thanos further in a Guardians of the Galaxy movie or something? They're gonna need to give him some beefy development prior to Avengers 2 like they did for Loki.
 
Kind of off-topic, but seeing the newest Spider-Man trailer attached to this film, sold me on the movie. Holy fuck it looks epic.
 
Loved it! It was so much better than what I was expecting. I also loved this version of Hulk and the play between him and Ironman.

I can watch this a few more times!
 
Holy shit this thread blew up overnight. :lol Glad everyone liked it, funny how just a month or so ago everyone was expecting this to be on the levels of IM2, Thor and CA, if not worse. :lol
 
So...
will they introduce Thanos further in a Guardians of the Galaxy movie or something? They're gonna need to give him some beefy development prior to Avengers 2 like they did for Loki.
Actually I think Thor 2 will be just fine for this purpose.
The Infinity Gauntlet's in the trophy room in Asgard for whatever reason already.
 
So...
will they introduce Thanos further in a Guardians of the Galaxy movie or something? They're gonna need to give him some beefy development prior to Avengers 2 like they did for Loki.

I would have him trash Asgard in Thor 2 and take back the Tesseract. Before he got the infinity gauntlet, I am pretty sure comic Thanos had a cosmic cube, which is basically the same thing. The Avengers 2 can be the entire team (and Asgard) fighting a being who can control reality.


Actually I think Thor 2 will be just fine for this purpose.
The Infinity Gauntlet's in the trophy room in Asgard for whatever reason already.

Actually, I forgot about this. Anyhow, I agree.
 
What was it exactly that allowed Black Widow
to surmise Loki's intentions to enrage Bruce Banner? Was it him saying something like "You've brought the real monster!"?
 
So...
will they introduce Thanos further in a Guardians of the Galaxy movie or something? They're gonna need to give him some beefy development prior to Avengers 2 like they did for Loki.
Maybe at the end of Thor 2, but I highly doubt we'll see a Guardians of the Galaxy movie any time soon.

Kind of off-topic, but seeing the newest Spider-Man trailer attached to this film, sold me on the movie. Holy fuck it looks epic.
In 3D?

I'm still smh that people think those are bad movies.
It's arguable that they aren't great, either. Avengers was on a whole other level in comparison to all of those, though.
 
I'm actually hoping they save Thanos for Avengers 3. He's the ultimate villain and any movies you do after him won't look like a threat. Save him for the be all end all Avengers epic. Keep him looming in the shadows and post credit sequences until the third film.

For the second movie I say introduce Pym as a SHIELD scientist and do Ultron.
 
I'm actually hoping they save Thanos for Avengers 3. He's the ultimate villain and any movies you do after him won't look like a threat. Save him for the be all end all Avengers epic. Keep him looming in the shadows and post credit sequences until the third film.

For the second movie I say introduce Pym as a SHIELD scientist and do Ultron.
There's always
Galactus (note, I did not see Rise of the Silver Surfer and I don't know about the rights/conflicts or anything)
 
I liked everything about it except
Super Loki where he could somehow withstand Hulk fucking him up yet he only gets mild scratches on his face
.

Well done.

Thought that I would hate it.
 
On the note of Loki and Hulk...

How was Loki so well versed on the Hulk? And why would he have been part of his plans before going to Earth?
 
On the note of Loki and Hulk...

How was Loki so well versed on the Hulk? And why would he have been part of his plans before going to Earth?
I assumed that he got the information from Hawkeye, and it wasn't part of his plan before that. Once he learned of it, I think he decided to try and enrage Hulk and get him to kill the other Avengers.
 
What was it exactly that allowed Black Widow
to surmise Loki's intentions to enrage Bruce Banner? Was it him saying something like "You've brought the real monster!"?
I had the impression that she was a superhumanly skillful interrogator during her first scene when it looks like she's been questioned, but she considers herself to be the one performing the actual interrogation.
 
They said that Avengers 3 might end up being
the Civil War
.
Pretty sure no one said that, Feige might've said something along the lines of "I'd love to see Civil War on the big screen but I can't imagine that happening before Avengers 3" Or something like that.

Even by that time, they probably won't have enough heroes (and villains?) around to accurately convey the Civil War, imo.
 
I liked everything about it except
Super Loki where he could somehow withstand Hulk fucking him up yet he only gets mild scratches on his face
.

Well done.

Thought that I would hate it.

He can withstand cosmic levels, a Hulk beat down is fairly okay

On the note of Loki and Hulk...

How was Loki so well versed on the Hulk? And why would he have been part of his plans before going to Earth?

See Thor's post credit. Loki came to Earth and stayed close to Selvig (And SHIELD).
 
What was it exactly that allowed Black Widow
to surmise Loki's intentions to enrage Bruce Banner? Was it him saying something like "You've brought the real monster!"?

Yep.
He tipped his hand my referring to Banner as the real danger.

Although even that I think was a sideline. He knew he had hiscrew on the way to mess up stuff and he knew he was sowing dissent amongst the team as well.
 
On the note of Loki and Hulk...

How was Loki so well versed on the Hulk? And why would he have been part of his plans before going to Earth?
Was he definitely part of the plan before going to Earth? I figured he got all the intel on Hulk from Barton, then incorporated the Hulk into his scheme and allowed himself to be captured.
I assumed that he got the information from Hawkeye, and it wasn't part of his plan before that. Once he learned of it, I think he decided to try and enrage Hulk and get him to kill the other Avengers.
brofist!
They said that Avengers 3 might end up being
the Civil War
.
Shit... that would actually be very impressive if pulled off well, but
you NEED, at the very least, Spider-Man's involvement.

Also, I do really enjoy the arc, but I hate how Iron Man (my fave) is manipulated and stands for all the wrong things :(
 
I liked everything about it except
Super Loki where he could somehow withstand Hulk fucking him up yet he only gets mild scratches on his face
.

Well done.

Thought that I would hate it.

Well, he is after all a Frost Giant, i guess he's like the ones from Asgard and have the superhuman strength like Thor who can go hand to hand against the Hulk
 
They said that Avengers 3 might end up being
the Civil War
.

There's no way you could do that storyline any justice. Avengers 3 would be likely coming in what? 2017-2018 at the earliest? How many heros are they going to have established by then? Not many I bet.

Besides It's not worth doing without Spider-Man and the Fantastic 4 anyways.
 
Civil War can't be done with 6 heroes. It can't be done with 20 heroes, really. It only really works under Marvel's ridiculous comic book catalogue of heroes.
 
I'm actually hoping they save Thanos for Avengers 3. He's the ultimate villain and any movies you do after him won't look like a threat. Save him for the be all end all Avengers epic. Keep him looming in the shadows and post credit sequences until the third film.

For the second movie I say introduce Pym as a SHIELD scientist and do Ultron.

As I am not really a
Thanos
fan I really like this idea for the next movie. In fact, I have been hoping he'd be the next villain since before I saw this one.
 
Just saw this. I thought it was going to be bad since the rest of the recent Marvel films were but it was better than I expected. I went mainly for Hulk because I'm a big fan and didn't care much about the rest. It's funny it felt like there was more Hulk rage in this than in the last one with Norton. I really hope they give him his own film again after this and go all out.

There are probably lots of issues I didn't notice but the most glaring one was
not explaining how Hulk was able to control himself. I went on imdb and people tried to say there was a gradual change throughout the film but that's not true at all there was no gradual shift it just went from crazy hulk to controlled hulk. And it threw away the continuity from the last Hulk since at the end of that one Norton had control over it.

I was also a bit angry that they gave away one of the best moments in the commercial (when Hulk catches Iron Man). If I hadn't seen this in the commercial it would've been much more rewarding on screen.
 
Um, i'm still processing what I watched but...

The Avengers will go down as THE greatest comic book film adaptation yet released

Yes it's even better than the Dark Knight

Whedon knocked out of the park. He made a film for comic book nerds. Not teenagers. Not couples. Not focus groups. Not the fucking Academy.

This film is for everyone out there who has loved comics since they were a kid.
 
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There are probably lots of issues I didn't notice but the most glaring one was
not explaining how Hulk was able to control himself. I went on imdb and people tried to say there was a gradual change throughout the film but that's not true at all there was no gradual shift it just went from crazy hulk to controlled hulk. And it threw away the continuity from the last Hulk since at the end of that one Norton had control over it.
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Yeah, that bugged me too. The only explanation I have is Loki's scepter may have adversely affected him, which is why he had it in his hands without knowing when they were all arguing. But that's kind of flimsy.
 
There are probably lots of issues I didn't notice but the most glaring one was
not explaining how Hulk was able to control himself. I went on imdb and people tried to say there was a gradual change throughout the film but that's not true at all there was no gradual shift it just went from crazy hulk to controlled hulk. And it threw away the continuity from the last Hulk since at the end of that one Norton had control over it.

Banner learned to control the transformation The Incredible Hulk, you can see at the end where he's meditating and starts to change. That doesn't mean he doesn't still have rage-induced meltdowns...in his first transformation on the Helicarrier he's hurt and pissed off, Hulk comes out in a destructive mindless rampage. The 2nd time he changes, it's completely voluntary and so Banner is able to share more control with Hulk. It's not really something you're going to get without really understanding how their relationship works, but in the climactic scene Hulk clearly understands that he's needed and needs to work with the team, so he's able to allow Banner more control.
 
saw it today in the uk, after it's been out for a week, definatley in my top marvel movies
not neccasary in that order

Blade 2
punisher war zone ( i liked it)
Iron Man
Avengers
spiderman

i liked thor, i thought cap america was a bit weak, but still a ok movie

how do i do the black bars to hide and highlight to reveal spoilers? noob here still
 
So...
will they introduce Thanos further in a Guardians of the Galaxy movie or something? They're gonna need to give him some beefy development prior to Avengers 2 like they did for Loki.

I don't think
Thanos will be the main villain in two. At least I'm hoping he's not. He's too big of a character to not have a long substantial decade-long build up towards his character. My personal bet is going to be Ultron as Whedon was quoted saying that he wants Avengers Two to be smaller and more personal. Which I don't think would suit a climatic finish against Thanos. Kind of like how the Emperor was revealed in The Empire Strikes Back but didn't reach full resolution until Return of the Jedi.
 
I thought we were going with
Banner is in control if he starts the change on his own, but if his anger takes over because of some outside source, he doesn't have control
 
Um, i'm still processing what I watched but...

The Avengers will go down as THE greatest comic book film adaptation yet released

Yes it's even better than the Dark Knight

Whedon knocked out of the park. He made a film for comic book nerds. Not teenagers. Not couples. Not focus groups. Not the fucking Academy.

This film is for everyone out there who has loved comics since they were a kid.

Yeah it's great. It doesn't best any of Nolans Batman for me but your right about it being a nerdgasm of awesomeness when it finally kicks in.
 
I don't think
Thanos will be the main villain in two. At least I'm hoping he's not. He's too big of a character to not have a long substantial decade-long build up towards his character. My personal bet is going to be Ultron as Whedon was quoted saying that he wants Avengers Two to be smaller and more personal. Which I don't think would suit a climatic finish against Thanos. Kind of like how the Emperor was revealed in The Empire Strikes Back but didn't reach full resolution until Return of the Jedi.

I'd be totally fine with this. Hopefully by the time it rolls around, they could have rights to way more characters to join the fight.
Thanos is the kind of guy you want the ENTIRE Marvel Universe out there defending against. Give us The Avengers, The New Avengers, The Fantastic Four and all the rest vs. Thanos!
 
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