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Giant Bomb Thread 2: A thread on a popular internet message board
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Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
What?
Foliorum Viridum
Banned
Bullshit it's being edited.
Sincere post though.
Sincere post though.
I don't let an old n-word slip out if I'm angry. I simply don't say it ever, so it just never occurs to me to say it no matter how emotional I am.
Typographenia
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Well, the probably would be better off editing it out for any future viewers that view it entirely unaware of apologies or anything else that will surround this for however long.
What happened? recap?
Hot Coldman
Banned
He said faggot
I have never in my life said the n word while in a moment of blind anger. Although I have let faggot slip in my worst moments. Always while playing a game, never in any other instance. I have both gay and black family members and friends so they are equally as offensive to me. N word definitely holds more weight for me I suppose.
No matter how color blind or un-homophobic person you are, sometime shit just slips when your brain checks out. I feel for Ryan in this.
to the game, or a person?
That's not really true. I mean, Ryan probably was a piece of shit teenager like the rest of us, and that word might've been part of his vernacular. In the intervening years, he's learned that that word isn't okay, so he makes sure he doesn't use it in any context. But it still lurks there in some part of his brain. This doesn't make okay, of course, and he should try and get rid of that word, but that's easier said than done.
That word was never part of my own vernacular, nor were most charged swear-words but when I get upset I pull out other swearwords that I never really use, so I can identify so some degree.
Either to some tentacle monster or to himself (he was cursing himself earlier in the show), as an expletive. I think it was to himself, but that doesn't really matter -- as he said, context isn't really the issue.
Hot Coldman
Banned
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I wasn't saying that he didn't say it ever, and he didn't say that he never said the word before. He might have at one time in his life, almost everyone was a little shithead at one point in their life. He obviously doesn't think it's alright to say it now at this stage of his life, but when you're angry bad and hidden habits bubble up to the surface.
Felix Lighter
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Through gritted teeth, he was spouting a bunch of obscenities at the game. One of them was very loaded.
Typographenia
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I'm not going to defend Ryan, as I neither witnessed the act nor is it my place, but I'm at least glad to see him addressing it swiftly and humbly.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Man. I appreciate the post and I want to say that this is overblown, but there are probably many giantbomb users that could do with the lesson being imparted here.
HAH. Silver lining people.
When it's put in your vocabulary it's there forever. It happens. Plus we were all stupid kids back then that thought the word was funny or whatever.
A very sincere, eloquent message.
I hope nobody gives him too much shit for this and overblows it.
Hot Coldman
Banned
Dude probably went through high school using that word all the time, because different times and also kids are fuckwits. He knows better now but that shit will be branded in his vocab further, just waiting for stressful moments to bubble back up like the gold old times and embarrass him to hell and back
God know it's all going to happen to us in good time once "retard" becomes equally taboo
Jake Tower
Banned
It isn't already?
Typographenia
Member
I remember Vinny giving someone on the bombcast grief for it. Or something.
I know it was Vinny.
Hot Coldman
Banned
Not to everyone. They're getting there. Hell, I felt fine using it until about a month ago, now I'm not so fond of it. "Idiotic" stings more, anyway.
I still see it alot here on Gaf.
mattiewheels
And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
This reminds me of a weird moment I had a few years ago, where a gay friend of mine had his skateboard stolen, and I wanted to help him get it back from the guy since he knew where he might be. I got really angry when we couldn't come up with him or the board, and just let out a 'That fucking faggot!' Instantly wondered where that came from since I never even use the word, incredibly awkward since my gay friend was the one that had to hear it. Even typing it out today makes me feel weird about it.
So I can attest to stuff like that manifesting out of some weird brain garbage and not really knowing where it came from. Too bad he did it on camera, I guess...
So I can attest to stuff like that manifesting out of some weird brain garbage and not really knowing where it came from. Too bad he did it on camera, I guess...
WrenchNinja
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FollowSmoke
Member
In watching these old Lantern Runs, it's obvious that Brad grabs ALL the health and gets hit the most. Where the other three rarely get it and survive, Brad grabs the health/armor over and over and loses it. They need a better game plan.
Edit: Also, when everyone else always grabs the furthest away lanterns, assuring that the last guy to grab one has to travel the least distance, Brad doesn't. He'll get there first and grab the closest one. What a dick.
Edit: Also, when everyone else always grabs the furthest away lanterns, assuring that the last guy to grab one has to travel the least distance, Brad doesn't. He'll get there first and grab the closest one. What a dick.
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Deleted member 30609
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well said.
Big-ass Ramp
hella bullets that's true
Damn, I missed some serious shit, I guess.
catotheyounger
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Glad he caught himself immediately and addressed the issue quickly. Unbecoming in general, but his awareness of it is encouraging and a sign of good faith.
Not on podcasts not called Rebel FM, and neither is the c-word even though using that word in public or a workplace is just as likely to get you in serious trouble or punched as letting the f-word slip out.
MiniBossBattle
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And THIS is why I love the GB crew. They are entertaining bunch but they recognize what crosses the line. He feels remorse and explaining why it is not okay to use that kind of slur. If anything I hope its a good lesson to the gaming community in general.
For a couple weeks.
It's not "manufactured outrage" for people to be offended (or even just taken aback) by a word like that. If it was a non-issue, Ryan wouldn't have apologized as emphatically as he did.
Look, I didn't get to watch it live, but it sounds like he was immediately apologetic. It should have ended there, everyone to move on. The fact that people are still talking about it at all is exactly manufactured outrage.
SteveWinwood
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That was a very nice, and you can tell sincere, apology.
Obviously certain slurs were much more common years ago, and while never acceptable, they were considerably less socially faux-pas. When you're a product of this age, old habits can die hard, however much one might try to purge such terms from the vocabulary.
It's similar to an atheist who frequently exclaims "oh God!" because of his upbringing -- in context, it's nothing but a meaningless exclamation. But in the case of the slur, it can and will be misinterpreted in a negative light.
What I'm getting at is that obviously Ryan holds himself entirely accountable, so it would be a shame if anyone thought less of him as a result of this incident. Words only have power when you assign it to them, and he did not, nor should we. The fact that he's fully and sincerely owning up to the mistake is more than enough for me.
We cool.
It's similar to an atheist who frequently exclaims "oh God!" because of his upbringing -- in context, it's nothing but a meaningless exclamation. But in the case of the slur, it can and will be misinterpreted in a negative light.
What I'm getting at is that obviously Ryan holds himself entirely accountable, so it would be a shame if anyone thought less of him as a result of this incident. Words only have power when you assign it to them, and he did not, nor should we. The fact that he's fully and sincerely owning up to the mistake is more than enough for me.
We cool.
EmCeeGramr
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That's not what manufactured outrage means at all.
SteveWinwood
Member
Society manufactured it man!
Again, I don't see how manufactured outrage is an applicable term. I don't see much "outrage" in either this thread or the thread accompanying Ryan's apology post, as pretty much everyone knows that Ryan didn't intend to hurt anyone. That doesn't mean that the word didn't still hit some people hard, and calling the responses of anyone that was hurt "manufactured" is uncalled for. Taken from his apology:
So, yeah, this situation will eventually blow over, and it was cool for Ryan to own up to his mistake, but it's not surprising that it sparked discussion.
Uh, yes it is. He was apologetic, it sounds like he immediately regretted his outburst. It should have ended there, yet people are still going on about it. Why?
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