Those are some realistic expectations.
300 mill international in 1 week blows my mind. Looks like Disney's mending that John Carter wound pretty fast.
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Those are some realistic expectations.
300 mill international in 1 week blows my mind. Looks like Disney's mending that John Carter wound pretty fast.
Well, it's not my fault. I'm not the one who put out the trailers and made the movie.
Read this in Bane's voice. lol.
Manmademan
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Would definitely work.
SpeedySwaf
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Who ever had the idea of buying Marvel will probably get a raise if they hadn't already. The Marvel movies will probably be easy money, right along side the Pixar films.
Has anybody seen this with an audience that DIDN'T love the crap out of this movie and laughed and cheered at the funny bits
? Almost every impression mentions the audience reactiom as a positive.
I had to see this at 16.15 because the later showings had only crappy seats left and while the theatre was full of kids and underaged brodudes with their dolled up girlfriends I sometimes couldn`t hear the dialogoe because of the reaction drowning out the speakers.
or the Hulk smashing puny gods
I had to see this at 16.15 because the later showings had only crappy seats left and while the theatre was full of kids and underaged brodudes with their dolled up girlfriends I sometimes couldn`t hear the dialogoe because of the reaction drowning out the speakers.
Candidate for funniest moment in the entire movie, simply because the whole exchange was so easy to miss. RDJ comes in speaking a mile a minute and drops in a line about "That man is playing Galaga. Am I the only one who noticed?" before moving right on to plot related stuff. And then just as the scene ends, we get a 2 second shot of the dude turning the game back on
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Can you blame a guy for not wanting to be on roids all the time?
Manmademan
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Eh, no matter what he would have looked tiny next to CG hulk. Even Chris Hemsworth was looking kind of puny in comparison
Well...
Thanos could remove the Time gem and use it to tempt Captain America. Trying to break the last noble resistance against his reign by offering Rogers the chance to return to WW2 be with this friends again. And in one desperate act of defiance, Cap grabs Thor's hammer and SMASHES the gem instead, creating a time vortex which rewinds time, and he THROWS the hammer at Thanos at a moment a weakness, hitting him back, only for the hammer to return into.... THOR's hand, and the camera zooms out showing all the Avengers revived and standing behind Cap for a group pose.
Fuck. Why am I such a fanboy.
Given his filmography, whatever Joe Johnston saw in him was pretty inspired. He nails the part in both films.
Nope. They've got enough characters as it is already. Adding another 15 or 20 is a one way ticket to shitsville. Seriously, Joss did a great job giving 6 characters lots of development and screentime. But if you double or triple that, it would be a clusterfuck. You cannot do 20 characters justice in a 120-140 minute film.
I personally think we actually have the very best possible situation right now with MS having the rights to the characters they do, FOX having X-Men and FF, and Sony having Spidey.
PhoncipleBone
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Well...Thanos could remove the Time gem and use it to tempt Captain America. Trying to break the last noble resistance against his reign by offering Rogers the chance to return to WW2 be with this friends again. And in one desperate act of defiance, Cap grabs Thor's hammer and SMASHES the gem instead, creating a time vortex which rewinds time, and he THROWS the hammer at Thanos at a moment a weakness, hitting him back, only for the hammer to return into.... THOR's hand, and the camera zooms out showing all the Avengers revived and standing behind Cap for a group pose.
Fuck. Why am I such a fanboy.
But you agree that a moment of
Cap using the hammer in a moment of great need
SillyEskimo
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Well...Thanos could remove the Time gem and use it to tempt Captain America. Trying to break the last noble resistance against his reign by offering Rogers the chance to return to WW2 be with this friends again. And in one desperate act of defiance, Cap grabs Thor's hammer and SMASHES the gem instead, creating a time vortex which rewinds time, and he THROWS the hammer at Thanos at a moment a weakness, hitting him back, only for the hammer to return into.... THOR's hand, and the camera zooms out showing all the Avengers revived and standing behind Cap for a group pose.
Fuck. Why am I such a fanboy.
That's really a cool idea.
Gotta have the space amour fly out of nowhere and attach itself to Cap too. I bet they could make him look fuck awesome in Asguardian gear.
You should have read my attempt at an X-Men 3 movie about going to Genosha. It was so much better than what we got!
Aside from FF, I absolutely agree with you. I like the way Fox has handled X-men even with the mistakes like X-men 3 and Wolverine. It feels like a cohesive universe somewhat, and it looks like they're back on track with getting better talent to direct the movies again now.
Fantastic Four is a fucking travesty though. It's in the worst possible position right now for the fans of the comic. It's been buttfucked as badly as Green Lantern.
Yes, I just added more shit to it because I love money shots. Lol.
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That would be a fuck yeah moment on par with Avenger's
Hulk+Thor destroying combo of awesomeness
Manmademan
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Not to mention spidey and wolverine as avengers is very recent history.
The team went a good 30 or 40 years without either...there's plenty of great plot lines to mine regardless.
Alx
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Yes, even if Marvel tried to build a coherent universe where they all coexist, I'd rather consider most of them as separate stories. Plots about mutants and their place in society, a young guy torn between "responsibilities" and his mediocre life, or a team of heroes saving the world don't go together.
Kevin Feige mentioned that he'd seen TASM and thought it was "awesome". I know any publicity for a Marvel character is good publicity, but it still struck me as interesting.
It's a new take on the character that would mesh well with the Marvel Cinematic Universe. I'm thinking that when it under-performs at the box office (many seem to think it will), Feige will make a move to set up some sort of deal with Sony, who would be more willing to cooperate given The Avengers' success.
It's a new take on the character that would mesh well with the Marvel Cinematic Universe. I'm thinking that when it under-performs at the box office (many seem to think it will), Feige will make a move to set up some sort of deal with Sony, who would be more willing to cooperate given The Avengers' success.
SillyEskimo
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Well, they could all just show up, no background needed since they've all had their own franchises. Just have the Avengers put out an APB to every other hero in the region. FF and X-Men are known super hero teams, and Spiderman is known to live in NYC so he's a easy enough. Honestly, I wouldn't need a 20 minutes explanation as to why other heroes would show up, just do it!
Sure, I mean there's no way Martin Campbell could fuck up a Green Lantern movie right? I'm sure WB will do great with a Justice League film, seeing how they're so competent with Superman and err... all the other DC comic movies! Yeah!
Seems about right, with the caveat that TIH and IM2 are exchangeable.
RDJ is gonna be 50+ years old when A2 comes out. I wonder if he has an A3 in him. Dat aging(sadly).
JLA will be tough. I don't envy the guy or gal who tries to tackle that script.
I'm gonna have to watch Green Lantern one day. How awful can it really be!?
It's super fucking bad, jett. But its a level of bad that MANY other superhero films exist at. It didn't define a new level of badness. But it is at the bottom, with Cap, Elektra, Catwoman, etc.
As you know, its all about getting the right people involved. I'm not saying it will work or would come close to being as good as The Avengers, but I think its worth taking a shot at, even if it ends up being a one-shot disaster. The idea of seeing Batman, Superman, Green Lantern, Wonder Woman, Flash etc. at the same time is too much to pass up on. And unlike Marvel Studios, I don't think ANY of DC's licenses are held anywheres but at WB, so they could use any characters they wanted to.
As you know, its all about getting the right people involved. I'm not saying it will work or would come close to being as good as The Avengers, but I think its worth taking a shot at, even if it ends up being a one-shot disaster. The idea of seeing Batman, Superman, Green Lantern, Wonder Woman, Flash etc. at the same time is too much to pass up on. And unlike Marvel Studios, I don't think ANY of DC's licenses are held anywheres but at WB, so they could use any characters they wanted to.
The closest comparison in terms of tone and quality is Fox's Fantastic Four movies. Those are probably better, actually.
Luckily for him his action scenes don't actually need him to be active.
Yeah, the dream isn't going to last forever. I wonder what Marvel plans on doing when they have to recast. I was talking to a friend about this crossover the other day, and it would be a great R-rated way to reboot the entire MCU in like 20 years time, especially if Marvel manages to get all the rights for all their properties back from other studios, and just wanted to wipe the slate clean and start from scratch for all properties. (lol)
For real. As long as he still looks good and still has his wit, he can play Iron Man as long as he likes. His "action" exists almost entirely in a computer.
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With the way the Marvel cinematic universe is right now, there are no other active heroes and the Avengers are the prototypical team every future hero aspires to be in. As said before there was a perfect split between the cast of six now, adding a bunch of random heroes just for an action scene would have dilluted that balance.
Without each character having his own movie and all of them taking place in the same universe a JLA movie wouldn't have the same impact as Avengers. MAHVEL really did a smart thing here, it was a huge gamble and it paid off, even if it was to the detriment of the individual movies.
Go see it anyway. The audience will keep you company.
I know what you mean, I was just taking a cheap shot at you.
In all seriousness though, I was REALLY hoping with Green Lantern that Warner/DC was so inspired by Marvel's big game plan that they were motivated to do the same thing. It would have been an amazing start, and I was so disappointed. I agree that it's all about getting the right people involved, but Warner doesn't seem to be very good at this. They really need a producer who knows what the fuck he's doing with regards to managing a comic universe in film.
Right now, I think the best step for Warner to take if they're serious about it, would be to knock the upcoming Superman film out of the park, and end Nolan's Dark Knight run on a really, really good note. From there, the next step would be to make a World's Finest movie with Superman and Batman, establishing a continuity in that way. This would basically replace the expectation for the next Nolan Batman, since he's not making anymore, and it could be a 2014 movie.
In such a movie, they can introduce supporting characters in cameos without it actually being Justice League, and use that as a springboard to promote the next wave of Warner/DC superhero movies, which would then lead into Justice League. That's how I think it should be done if someone really wants to do the content justice.
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Jla is Damn near impossible. Avengers only worked because marvel built up all the backstory over several films.
For JLA to work warner will have to reboot superman and Batman (both of whom are iconic characters with some baggage from previous films) find a way to make wonder woman, aqua man, and the flash work as films (difficult, especially for the former two) and find a way for everyone to forget what a trainwreck green lantern was.
THEN tie them into an ensemble film that makes sense. Even if warner pulls this off it'll take a decade.
Without each character having his own movie and all of them taking place in the same universe a JLA movie wouldn't have the same impact as Avengers. MAHVEL really did a smart thing here, it was a huge gamble and it paid off, even if it was to the detriment of the individual movies.
Yeah, that's the weird thing with the way Marvel Studios did this. I HATE the Avengers shoehorning into the character specific films, and yet without it, this movie wouldn't have worked nearly as good. It's almost like you have to take the bad to get the great.
To be honest, if JLA is a non-starter, I would be more than happy with this. Batman and Superman live action together? YES PLEASE.
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It is up there
I would've been happier if they released the Direct to DVD/Blu-Ray cartoon movies, it has better plot, cohesion-ness, Green Lantern being Green Lantern, would've made more money
Only reason JL will never be made is because of fucking Superman, he literally is End Game character
Batman, Wonder Woman, and the rest you can use something against them, Superman?, nothing
Doesn't fucking help, every Superman movie released has always been Lois Lane needs to be Clarks or Super's GF and Lex Luthor always up to making/robbing land or some shit
If you really want JL movie you need to use DCUO storyline as a basis, has to be one long ass story stretched out into 2-3 movies, only way you can do any justice to it
Before that you will need at least 3-5 movies from characters to intertwine and get people interested in it
Avengers worked out, cause Marvel little by little chipped away at how they came to be and what purpose those super-heroes have
If Avengers was 45 minutes of back story, Origin retelling, then 15 minutes present, and "Assemble", and finish the movie, most would have gone "WTF Did I just Watch?"
Do you think it's possible that you don't actually have as much objection as you might think with regards to Avengers "shoehorning" in other movies, but rather the way it was done? I mean, as an actual concept, I feel it doesn't make an individual movie better or worse. What people had against Iron Man 2 was expressed as "they shoehorned all this pointless Avengers crap into it" but I feel that often the reality is that the real problem was that the pacing in IM2 was poor. If they had kept the pacing up, fleshed out some of the scenes more and had snappier writing and better pay off at the end, audiences would not be bothered just by the fact that there is "Avengers shit" in Iron Man 2.
It's misdirected hate imo. Cross-continuity stuff isn't bad, it's in the execution.
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Without each character having his own movie and all of them taking place in the same universe a JLA movie wouldn't have the same impact as Avengers. MAHVEL really did a smart thing here, it was a huge gamble and it paid off, even if it was to the detriment of the individual movies.
Yeah it was a grand plan. It was a gamble especially with characters like Thor and Iron Man, who were not really known to the non-comic public. Paid off big thanks to well done movies, and really big with Iron Man because of smart casting.
It's one of the greatest disappointments for me this decade with regards to adaptations. It's not even so bad that it's "good". It's just... bad. :/
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