Manos: The Hans of Fate
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Makes you wonder if it's easy for him to mind control a Time Lord...yeah I went that dorky.
Marvel's The Avengers |OT| (Dir. Joss Whedon) [Spoilers unmarked]
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Makes you wonder if it's easy for him to mind control a Time Lord...yeah I went that dorky.
I like black panther, but aside from his vibranium weapons his abilities are extremely similar to Black Widow aren't they? And yeah wakanda would be hard to pull off
So you're basically shitting on all my dreams, is that it?
TacticalFox88
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For those who missed it. The reason that Hulk decided to become friends with the Avengers was because on the carrier he was under the influence of Loki. Which is why they showed Banner holding his staff. When he fell and changed back, Loki's influence wore off and Banner came back to the city, showing that he has full control of Hulk like it was implied in the 08 film. He didn't turn into Hulk on the carrier because he lost control, he turned into Hulk because Loki forced it to come out under his control.
Hope that clears it up.
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Are you all sure they're going to even add more heroes for Avengers 2? It seems like they have the perfect balance right now, and none of the characters mentioned seem like they'd draw in more people; at least more people that wouldn't already come.
Also, I'm not saying it wouldn't be cool to see these people, I like seeing the more niche parts recreated in other mediums, I'm just saying that they already have these moving parts going, and they might not see it as a necessity to add more characters.
Also, I'm not saying it wouldn't be cool to see these people, I like seeing the more niche parts recreated in other mediums, I'm just saying that they already have these moving parts going, and they might not see it as a necessity to add more characters.
ant man/ giant man power set makes it such that he can shrink or increase his mass as well
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Is that a mask or a mutation?
Affeinvasion
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Ant-Man is awesome...he shrinks down to avoid stuff, but still has the same strength of someone who is larger. He also controls bugs through his helmet. But Hank is awesome in general because he can go from ant-man to giant man at the touch of a button. He can shrink to dodge a punch and then as he's connecting on a counter increase his size and send the baddie flying off into the horizon.
VisionaryQuest0
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Actually surprised alot of people didn't get that.
Joel Was Right
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soundscream
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No not really.
Hulk wasn't in control because he didn't choose to change, it happens as a result of the explosion. Banner has semi control when he changes on his own but when it's a rage change the Hulk is on auto pilot.
Helmet.
Pym is an expert in physics, cybernetics, a.i and entomology (of all things) The helmet allows him to communicate with ants when he shrinks.
I don't think he was entirely under his control like Hawkeye, they would have shown the eye thing.
It was just manipulation, probably the staff doing something which was also helping to cause everyone to argue.
Affeinvasion
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You can add pretty much everything else to those three areas. He's the scientist supreme.
Okay, I can get down with that.
This. Didn't the staff flash for a sec before Banner grabbed it?
But why would they put such focus on Banner starting to rage-out whilst holding the sceptor? Perhaps it's a combination of the two, or maybe you're right, but the scepter helped egg-on his loss of control.
Actually, I see her as more of Marvel's Green Lantern. That is, the career military who gains powers through an accident. That, and you can juxtapose the WWII military of Cap with present day military of Carol.
Pym is a necessity in the comics, no doubt. And Ultron would be an awesome story to do, but from the point of view of your average movie-goer, the Avengers already have two scientists. Bringing in a third would seem almost pointless (to them).
Panther's costume, and claws/feral weapon style might separate him enough from Black Widow. But, yeah, Wakanda I think would be tricky to do though you might get into some tribal uprisings or freedom fighters or something like that. Africa's a bit too war-torn in the public image at the moment.
Says "Sentry"
....Hell, I'd love Spider-Woman coming in, but I saw that as an impossibility.Just got back from my first and only likely viewing. I thought I would love it, more than Iron Man but it failed to get there. Probably I set myself up and got caught in all the hype, which Disney has done an excellent job in building and creating it. It is a very good movie but for some reason failed to resonate very highly with me. There were a few scenes that got close to it but then fell off. My review is going to be a lot like Adam's (Sculli) so if you dont want to read ahead please skip the rest of this post.
+2 Joss Whedon, for direction and writing (screenplay). He did justice to the action and he's pulled off something that I didnt expected him to. All the characters were given enough screen time and space that they justified their presence in the team.
A lot of the action is well crafted, especially the
sequence. I got a vibe similar to the
The
was also neat and probably the highlight of the movie for me. Having recently loved Cabin in the Woods, this is 2 out of 2 for Whedon. Havent really seen Whedon's previous works except Serenity, which I vaguely remember liking. Basing on all of this, Whedon broke into my top 10.
Cameron, Nolan, Spielberg, Tarantino, Ridley, Del Toro, Wachowskis, Raimi, Whedon, Jackson.
Ofcourse this is just a blockbuster director list, I'm not going to list the Aronofsky, Fincher, Malick, Scorsese, Coens, Mann etc.
For the story, I didnt think it was excellent. A lot of the dialogue was also cheesy in places, albeit funny when proportioned correctly. I feel because of the cheesy dialogues, it wont be great on re-watches and mainly fast forwarding to the sequences or the Hulk bits. I didnt feel Hulk stole the show, IMO it was still Iron Man which leads me to believe that IM3 is going to be HUGE .. HUGE, HUGE, HUGE. Shane Black helming it is just perfect, hopefully he delivers. Ruffalo was perfect as Banner, another surprise for me. RDJ seriously needs to tone down his talk, he talks way too fast and felt like he was almost pre-hitting the joke punches. Renner got the least screen time and also felt the least interesting character. ScarJo pulled her weight and Black Widow also got enough setup time for a possible stand alone movie. Paltrow was wasted, I could care less for
I will put SM2 easily above Iron Man, but that isnt a part of this so my rankings of just the Avengers properties so far.
Iron Man
Avengers
Thor
Captain America
The Incredible Hulk
Iron Man 2
And I cant compare this to BB and TDK. I can however compare this to Batman '89 but only slightly. Avengers as a comic book movie cannot stand on its own, it has a build up of so many movies before it and it feels like a sequel of sequels. Also props to Marvel for putting a lot of their eggs into the Avengers basket, this was a risky movie and it paid off, for now. I'm not sure how the standalone movies (except Iron Man and maybe Hulk) are going to be received.
The biggest take away from this movie was Whedon just made Bay redundant and unnecessary.
+2 Joss Whedon, for direction and writing (screenplay). He did justice to the action and he's pulled off something that I didnt expected him to. All the characters were given enough screen time and space that they justified their presence in the team.
A lot of the action is well crafted, especially the
attack on the hover-carrier/base
Avatar's final air battle, especially the aircraft part that was carrying the cargo.
one continuous shot of all the heros in the final battle
Cameron, Nolan, Spielberg, Tarantino, Ridley, Del Toro, Wachowskis, Raimi, Whedon, Jackson.
Ofcourse this is just a blockbuster director list, I'm not going to list the Aronofsky, Fincher, Malick, Scorsese, Coens, Mann etc.
For the story, I didnt think it was excellent. A lot of the dialogue was also cheesy in places, albeit funny when proportioned correctly. I feel because of the cheesy dialogues, it wont be great on re-watches and mainly fast forwarding to the sequences or the Hulk bits. I didnt feel Hulk stole the show, IMO it was still Iron Man which leads me to believe that IM3 is going to be HUGE .. HUGE, HUGE, HUGE. Shane Black helming it is just perfect, hopefully he delivers. Ruffalo was perfect as Banner, another surprise for me. RDJ seriously needs to tone down his talk, he talks way too fast and felt like he was almost pre-hitting the joke punches. Renner got the least screen time and also felt the least interesting character. ScarJo pulled her weight and Black Widow also got enough setup time for a possible stand alone movie. Paltrow was wasted, I could care less for
Coulson's death and the team coming together on his death alone after the fallout felt convenient along with a few other things.
I will put SM2 easily above Iron Man, but that isnt a part of this so my rankings of just the Avengers properties so far.
Iron Man
Avengers
Thor
Captain America
The Incredible Hulk
Iron Man 2
And I cant compare this to BB and TDK. I can however compare this to Batman '89 but only slightly. Avengers as a comic book movie cannot stand on its own, it has a build up of so many movies before it and it feels like a sequel of sequels. Also props to Marvel for putting a lot of their eggs into the Avengers basket, this was a risky movie and it paid off, for now. I'm not sure how the standalone movies (except Iron Man and maybe Hulk) are going to be received.
The biggest take away from this movie was Whedon just made Bay redundant and unnecessary.
crimsonspider89
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That She Hulk argument is BS as is a lot of the other arguments.
She Hulk can be introduced in another movie and the public is familiar with her thanks to MvC3 and she will be in a cartoon appearing on XD called Hulks Agents of Smash.
She Hulk can be introduced in another movie and the public is familiar with her thanks to MvC3 and she will be in a cartoon appearing on XD called Hulks Agents of Smash.
cutmeamango
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You know who would work on the Avengers cast?
I need it Marvel, I need it so bad.
I need it Marvel, I need it so bad.
soundscream
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They were all rageing out at that point. So add the explosion it pushed the hulk out.
The Anti-Monitor
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... Do you really think half the people who have seen this will be familiar with either?
She-Hulk is awesome though so I'd love to see them try.
And yeah, they'll most likely introduce new Avengers. I don't know why they'd include Hawkeye if their intention wasn't to get the biggest superhero roster they could. Ant-Man and Wasp are likely simply because their movie is the one we've heard the most about, and there's a lot of ways they could make their story stand out. I think War Machine is a lock, and simply skipped this movie so they wouldn't steal Stark's thunder. Other than that, I'd see them trying Ms. Marvel (a female stand alone hero) but some other stuff seems way too hard to include. And it sucks, cuz I'd love to see Dormammu and RDJr playing Dr. Strange. Because yes, I'd want that.
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Joel Was Right
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What does this mean?
ratcliffja
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Exactly. Loki must have gathered a lot of SHIELD intelligence from the agents he controlled, so he found out a lot about each Avenger. He realized that making Banner turn into Hulk unintentionally would prevent him from being able to control the monster. They even said as much when Black Widow was interrogating him.
Glass Rebel
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Yeah he is referring to the uploader but I think the video was used by Marvel publishing to promote their business and subscriptions. Thing is Whedon probably his action beats from a number of places as he is familiar with the source and is a geek himself. While it could have been in the back of his mind, I highly doubt that one CG promo shot made ages ago is where he solely took inspiration from.
Mickeboy93 is the user that created and posted that Youtube video.
:lol brilliant.You know who would work on the Avengers cast?
I need it Marvel, I need it so bad.
You've brought this up like five times over the past few days. :lol That's a negative, sir. Double negative, actually.
Fact: She-Hulk is not happening before Avengers 2, and there's a 90% it won't happen before or after Avengers 3, either. There's way way many vital characters to introduce before She-Hulk.
cutmeamango
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Unless Magneto Origins get some push, and even if it gets, he hardly will be used again.
But that picture is mainly a play on how awesome David is.
SentientStone
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Just came back, slightly underwhelmed after seeing so many positive reviews.
I really did not like how the battles always end with the heroes destroying a central-control unit nowadays. It seems so many movies do this. The first thing I thought of when I realized what was happening was "Battle: Los Angeles" (a movie I hate with a passion by the way) when I saw this in The Avengers. :/
I still prefer super hero movies with a more central super villain that is the threat and not just an army of 'stuff'. I hope Thanos can play a more directly threatening role in the next film and not be a pushover like Loki.
I really did not like how the battles always end with the heroes destroying a central-control unit nowadays. It seems so many movies do this. The first thing I thought of when I realized what was happening was "Battle: Los Angeles" (a movie I hate with a passion by the way) when I saw this in The Avengers. :/
I still prefer super hero movies with a more central super villain that is the threat and not just an army of 'stuff'. I hope Thanos can play a more directly threatening role in the next film and not be a pushover like Loki.
crimsonspider89
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Who knows? She Hulk and Ms. Marvel are getting tons of publicity in the future. So I expect at least one of them to make it to Avengers 2 or 3. Just depends on what movies are produced and what happens.
Scarlet Witch maybe if she gets more publicity but currently those two along with Wasp seem the most likely to join the Avengers rank out of the females.
Scarlet Witch maybe if she gets more publicity but currently those two along with Wasp seem the most likely to join the Avengers rank out of the females.
Henry Pym created a substance that allows him to changes size. Ant-Man was simply one of his aliases. He was also Giant-Man/Goliath.
I'd certainly agree the usefulness of only shrinking down would be ... small ... and similarly, donning the Ant-Man outfit, etc. would be pretty damn cheesy. Having a character that can change to whatever size he wants however could be quite interesting.
Think of that last scene in the Watchmen when Dr. Manhattan goes giant. Stuff like that would be a possibility. And considering Fox wussed out on Galactus (not that Pym can get anywhere near that big), a giant character really hasn't been explored much in comic movies beyond the above scene.
Joel Was Right
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Negative in what? That its not a coincidence?
I can see that. I'm asking what are the chances someone involved in the movie saw this clip and effectively took the idea down?
It's just a joke.
Glass Rebel
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Unless Magneto Origins get some push, and even if it gets, he hardly will be used again.
But that picture is mainly a play on how awesome David is.
In my head there's already X-Men Origins: Magneto - Nazi Killer in production. Don't mess with that.
No seriously, the scene in that Argentinian bar was incredible. Fassbender was menacing as fuck.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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Chyna has killed She-Hulk for many many many many years now.
I suspect we'll see new characters brought into MCU via the upcoming IM and Thor movies. Plus they could certainly have A2 involve getting another (Vision being created maybe? Plenty of options)
It's cleaner and resolves the threat in a way that makes sense. They can't kill all of them and if they didn't shut down when the mother ship was destroyed, the fight would either have to continue or the enemies would have to randomly disappear.
crimsonspider89
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Also Fox is planning to do a sequel to FC focused on Magneto's group.
Affeinvasion
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Knowing Loki, getting the Avengers together and getting captured could have all been part of his larger plan.
I doubt it, tbh. They seem to want to focus on them being their own thing, not involving other heroes. It's possible, though. The best part about IM and Thor movies are the easter eggs they get.
What else is going on in the future? Is Coulson alive?
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