Marvel's The Avengers |OT| (Dir. Joss Whedon) [Spoilers unmarked]

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BTW, Hulk fans are a crazy bunch. I sat next to a couple when I saw the film today. The sheer giddiness they display when Hulk smashes shit is a sight to behold. When Hulk beats the shit out of Loki, I thought they were going to jizz in their pants.
Not sure what it is ... but I felt like I was kid again when he hit Thor and wrecked up Loki.

I'm 36, an I really can't remember the last time I laughed with such wide-eyed, childish glee at a movie scene.
 
Yeah he didnt shoot at it. That part wasnt so unbelievable. He rocket launchered the other plane though. that was pretty badass.
I thought the rocket launcher bit was just as unbelievable. Weren't the jet's carrying nukes to level Manhatten? Surely shooting an RPG at it isn't the best idea.
 
Is the 3D good? I want to see the movie, but I'm not sure if 3D is worth the extra bucks or not.
If you like the depth 3D gives you, I'd say it was a pretty good post-conversion.

Certainly if you don't particularly like 3D though ... this ain't gonna convince you.
 
I thought the rocket launcher bit was just as unbelievable. Weren't the jet's carrying nukes to level Manhatten? Surely shooting an RPG at it isn't the best idea.

Nukes need to be properly armed to set off a nuclear reaction. Blowing them up would at worst trigger the conventional explosives inside it and spread nuclear material around, but no nuclear blast.
 
I thought the rocket launcher bit was just as unbelievable. Weren't the jet's carrying nukes to level Manhatten? Surely shooting an RPG at it isn't the best idea.

I think the first jet was a decoy or just another jet moving down the runway, and I'm guessing that he was going to sacrifice himself and the rest of the ship to save New York and The Avengers. That, and I'm not sure if a RPG explosion could even cause a chain-reaction explosion from the nuke, as I think they use exremely resilient casings, but that's just a guess.

EDIT: Beaten with a better answer.
 
I thought the rocket launcher bit was just as unbelievable. Weren't the jet's carrying nukes to level Manhatten? Surely shooting an RPG at it isn't the best idea.

Nah, nukes won't go off if its in an explosion.

Movies tend to bend reality, especially when it comes to weapons. Shooting a gas tank won't make a car explode, a silencer doesn't turn a gunshot into a whisper, and guns don't shoot wildly if someone drops it.
 
Ant Man would be cool, but Wasp is the most useless superhero ever. They should do a female Avenger that would actually be powerful, like Ms. Marvel.

Also since the Infinity Gauntlet was seen at in Odin's treasure room in Thor, does that mean if it would to be included in the next movie they would skip collecting the gems?
You can't have one without the other, imo. And I don't think they could do the gauntlet right without the gem-collecting.
 
The Thor character is so shitty, I wish they gave him less camera time. Everything else was good. The hulk was the one that really stood out.


Also Captain America needs a power up....
 
This is a great movie?
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I thought the rocket launcher bit was just as unbelievable. Weren't the jet's carrying nukes to level Manhatten? Surely shooting an RPG at it isn't the best idea.
It's not like they're combustible in the traditional sense a la gun powder or dynamite. An explosion isn't going to start the nuclear reaction.

What could be argued is whether it was smart to risk contamination by blowing up the plane since the warhead casing could be breached. Then again, it's a movie.
 
It's no better or worse than Nolan's Batman movies, but still below Lexi Alexander's work.

I dont know, Nolan has faults, but he actually makes me care about the characters in his films. I cared about no one in The Avengers. I still thought it was a fantastic piece of entertainment. One of the best popcorn action movies in a long time. But Nolan's bat films give me something a little more.
 
It's not like they're combustible in the traditional sense a la gun powder or dynamite. An explosion isn't going to start the nuclear reaction.

What could be argued is whether it was smart to risk contamination by blowing up the plane since the warhead casing could be breached. Then again, it's a movie.

I think a man of Fury's caliber would have no problem sacrificing the helicarrier to stop Manhattan from being nuked.
 
It's too bad the gauntlet was seen in Thor already. People are saying that they wouldn't do it justice without Thanos collecting the gems. I wouldn't mind then doing a Thanos movie. Give him a whole movie where he collects the gems. It would show everyone how powerful and how much of a big baddie he is. Make the villain the star of the movie.

And then make the Gauntlet storyline into two parts, Avengers 2 and 3.
 
I think a more useful measure is to look at stuff like it's rotten rating.
True, but it's relevant to note that it just broke the record, pretty big deal. 8/19 = great movie. This is at least that.

The Thor character is so shitty, I wish they gave him less camera time. Everything else was good. The hulk was the one that really stood out.

Also Captain America needs a power up....
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I dont know, Nolan has faults, but he actually makes me care about the characters in his films. I cared about no one in The Avengers. I still thought it was a fantastic piece of entertainment. One of the best popcorn action movies in a long time. But Nolan's bat films give me something a little more.

I actually think The Avengers is better paced than TDK. Then again I never even liked Batman Begins that much so I may not be able to comment as fairly on it. I do truly feel Avenger is a better paced and edited movie.

I cared about Coulson. :(
 
I actually think The Avengers is better paced than TDK. Then again I never even liked Batman Begins that much so I may not be able to comment as fairly on it. I do truly feel Avenger is a better paced and edited movie.

I cared about Coulson. :(

Shit...I don't know. Those are like two of my favorite movies from the past decade or so. I feel like TDK and Avengers are great in different ways. TDK is leagues better than BB though.

I thought Coulson was great as well. Thought he was a great side-character.
 
I actually think The Avengers is better paced than TDK. Then again I never even liked Batman Begins that much so I may not be able to comment as fairly on it. I do truly feel Avenger is a better paced and edited movie.

I cared about Coulson. :(

Pacing issues have always plague Nolan, but I wasnt talking about that. There was no emotional depth to The Avengers. There was no sense of danger either. It was a fun, action romp, but not much more. For as much praise Whedon gets for his character work, there was little of that besides funny dialogue.
 
Shit...I don't know. Those are like two of my favorite movies from the past decade or so. I feel like TDK and Avengers are great in different ways. TDK is leagues better than BB though.
Well if I can discount BB, I really feel that Avengers wins due to pacing and editing.

I thought Coulson was great as well. Thought he was a great side-character.
Yeah, it would be humorous if they bring him back as an AI or LMD in the next film, he is clearly dead though.

Pacing issues have always plague Nolan, but I wasnt talking about that. There was no emotional depth to The Avengers. There was no sense of danger either. It was a fun, action romp, but not much more. For as much praise Whedon gets for his character work, there was little of that besides funny dialogue.
I felt the character work was done in the previous movies, personally I didn't need, nor want anymore of the character work.

Do note those aren't standard rounds, they're subsonic to help reduce noise.

Of course, hence the need to cycle it, but still it's a really good job they did considering 7.62 Nato is a full sized battle cartridge.
 
Ant Man and Wasp are getting there own movie. And surprised no one caught the teaser at the beginning of the Avengers before Loki shows up. Shame.


In the background was a red suit being scanned that looked a lot like the Ant Man suit. Have a nice day.
I'm pretty sure you were seeing things, because there's no way you're the only one who's noticed it on the entire internet by now..
but you give me false hope
 
Pacing issues have always plague Nolan, but I wasnt talking about that. There was no emotional depth to The Avengers. There was no sense of danger either. It was a fun, action romp, but not much more. For as much praise Whedon gets for his character work, there was little of that besides funny dialogue.

It's pretty hard to have emptional depth conpared to Batman considering both film's source material, and that there are six main characters in The Avengers to balance and have screentime for. I think what Whedon pulled off was extremely impressive and I think Nolan has a much easier job.
Individual movies for the in depth character development, Avengers for them to team up and smash stuff seems like the correct way to go.
 
Saw it just now... I kind of regret not seeing Thor now, but I did see the other standalone movies so most of it made sense.

All in all it was very enjoyable... probably the most fun I've had at the movies in a while... although having seen the IMAX 3D version, the post-conversion really stood out to me.
 
First movie I've been to where there was an actual line to get in and you had to show your ticket to get in.

Great movie. Lived up to the hype completely. Hulk completely stole the show.

Need a feminine touch for the next one.

She-Hulk, Wasp and Fem-Loki should do it.
 
I went into this movie not particularly caring about the Avenger universe, but loved it. I expected each hero to have their 1 big moment in the sun, and was continually impressed as Whedon spread the love and gave them multiple moments each.

Great pacing, superb special effects...man, what a fun movie.
 
Pacing issues have always plague Nolan, but I wasnt talking about that. There was no emotional depth to The Avengers. There was no sense of danger either. It was a fun, action romp, but not much more. For as much praise Whedon gets for his character work, there was little of that besides funny dialogue.
It was a bit of a tall order to expect much character development though. While most of the characters were known, this still had to take a lot of time to set up the team coming together. So in many ways it was still an origin story. To have that, give face time to an ensemble, and fight baddies ... it's just doesn't leave much time.

There's a reason ensemble stories are more typically done as TV shows are a mini-series (well, not including movies that are entirely based on character development). It's a lot to do within an action movie. I'm hoping that A2 will have more space for that though since less exposition will be necessary. That's the benefit of doing a trilogy.

The good thing about the MCU approach is that characters can be introduced in the side movies (either with standalone movies or as side characters other characters' standalone movies). That should help with bringing new characters into the fold for future Avengers movies. I don't want origin stories within every movie unless it's a primary plot-point.
 
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