Hey! Did you guys do the donning-of-the-Mk. VII-armor sequence?
Marvel's The Avengers |OT| (Dir. Joss Whedon) [Spoilers unmarked]
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Put him on your ignore list, like I have, and viola, no more thread derailing.
XiaNaphryz
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Yes.
For anyone remotely interested in the comics or reminiscing over classics, I found this great collage of every single issue released (click for giant 5700x3375 version);
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Fun to look over, issue by issue. Makes you wonder Marvel has in store, could go so many ways at this point.
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Fun to look over, issue by issue. Makes you wonder Marvel has in store, could go so many ways at this point.
http://fuckyeah-avengers.tumblr.com/
But I find it better to go by the search system:
http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/the+avengers
DeviantART is usually good for fan art, too.
Clayton Bigsby
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You are looking at it like WB honestly had a choice. It was either let Nolan do what he wanted or watch him take his films to another studio. They let him do Inception because how much money he made them with TDK. They were upset at the script of TDKR for unknown reasons. But they would rather kill batman off than watch Nolan walk. Especially after watching Green Lantern bomb so hard.
Outstanding, spectacular work. I loved it but was stricken with awe the first time around, but on second viewing I really paid attention to detail. Making that sequence believable at all was a feat but having it look so damn cool as well... *bow*
Nice. I can't wait till this hits blu-ray so I can what all the HD goodness frame by frame.
This movie deserves Best Picture for this scene alone.
It really does make a play for "most viscerally satisfying scene I've ever experienced watching a movie," against all odds somehow up there with Andy's escape in The Shawshank Redemption, Leeloo unleashing her power in the Fifth Element, Neo diving into Smith in The Matrix, and (most sensibly) River's Moment of Awesome in Serenity. Most surprising of all was how cathartic it was watching it in the theater a second time even knowing it was coming.
Loki finally learns some humility.
Loki finally learns some humility.
The name is corny and his powers even more so. Hey, let's add Flea man! How about Head Lice man! It will simply remind people they would rather see Spider Man in the Avengers, a cool invertebrate based hero. His name and powers just don't mix well with what's been established.
She-Hulk is redundant.
Clayton Bigsby
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I wish it did that for me. I thought it was awesome and a great scene. But there was no build up, it sort of just happened. I know you are just giving your opinion, but Andy's escape did so much more for me than anything in this film.
I want a gif of Captain somersaulting all over the place while fighting the Chitauris on the street and then suddenly Iron Man came over and fires a ray towards Cap and Cap deflects it to hit one of the Chitauris. Just the part where Captain somersault itself is cool enough but the addition of the shield deflection would be ace.
Welp, Shawshank is my favorite movie of all-time, and obviously the scene in question operates so effectively because of an entire movie's worth of build-up (it's, like the Count of Monte Cristo, essentially about a prison break from the first moment even though you don't realize it).
This was sort of the opposite. The fact that it was so sudden, unexpected and brutal enhanced the impact. You have no idea what's really going to happen at that moment, you don't know if Loki still has another trick to deploy, or if he can fight back against Hulk to some extent as could Thor. But no... just no.
There you go =D
The only reason I want Ant-Man is he brings forth many other characters (Ultron, Wasp, Vision, and even Wonder Man).
BigJonsson
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Whoa, the end of the Infinity Gauntlet story is pretty nuts
Just saw it. It was awesome.
I just have two questions:
1) How did Thor get back to Earth? I thought he couldn't go back since he broke the Rainbow bridge and I doubt he uses the Tessaract.
2) Why wasn't Hulk just smashing everything and trying to kill everyone (including the Avengers)? I thought when Banner became Hulk he had no control over his actions. I find it weird that he was going crazy at SHIELD's hq but was in control in NYC.
I just have two questions:
1) How did Thor get back to Earth? I thought he couldn't go back since he broke the Rainbow bridge and I doubt he uses the Tessaract.
2) Why wasn't Hulk just smashing everything and trying to kill everyone (including the Avengers)? I thought when Banner became Hulk he had no control over his actions. I find it weird that he was going crazy at SHIELD's hq but was in control in NYC.
Good Job Bob
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Does this Thanos fellow show up in 'The Ultimates', I'm about to start reading that.
They don't really explain in depth how Thor got back, they bascially say "Odin did something crazy."
This is something that bugged me too. It made zero sense to me as well as the people I watched the movie with.
Really? No build-up? The entire movie from scene 1 is spent building up Loki as an arrogant little punk who thinks he owns the place, who thinks he's got everything under control, who thinks he can control the Hulk, use the Hulk, who responds to Tony's "We have a Hulk" threat with indifference.
The build-up is the entire reason that scene is so great. In one quick moment, Loki gets taken down a peg or two, or five, because he underestimated the Hulk. He didn't understand that Hulk is strongest there is.
My take is that Banner reached an accord with the Hulk, much like he did in World War Hulk. Instead of repressing his anger, he just lets it roll.
EDIT: on the carrier he was being messed with, like the others, by Loki's staff. That, combined with the trauma from the fall (when the fan exploded), pushed him over the edge.
Odin harnessed enough dark energy to send him back to Earth. But that's as far as they get explaining it. I'm going to assume they explain this in Thor 2.
I'm basing this from my own assumption: Bruce fell and transformed without his control, hence uncontrollable Hulk. In New York, he transformed into the Hulk in his own terms.
"You wanna know my secret? I'm always angry." What a boss line.
Loki's staff, and because it wasn't a voluntary transformation. That's how I took it.
I like how people are pulling the "Avengers had no emotional weight because you know they won't die," then in the same breath say "Batman could die, Nolan built a world where that could be the case."
It's hilarious how on one hand, you have to convince yourself the character won't die (Iron Man) because somehow the situation doesn't have the proper elements to pull it off, whereas knowing in advance and being mentally prepared for Batman's death somehow doesn't dilute the emotional effectiveness?
Give me a break.
That doesn't sound ridiculous to you?
It's hilarious how on one hand, you have to convince yourself the character won't die (Iron Man) because somehow the situation doesn't have the proper elements to pull it off, whereas knowing in advance and being mentally prepared for Batman's death somehow doesn't dilute the emotional effectiveness?
Give me a break.
That doesn't sound ridiculous to you?
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Banner has some control when he chooses to transform, hence his "always angry" secret as well as his increased ability to keep it together. A forced/uncontrolled transformation due to self-preservation/external forces (i.e. the tense argument+anger at being used/lied to+Loki staff influencing them all) results in no control.
Clayton Bigsby
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Take a breath. Now, on one hand, at no point during the avengers did it feel like the heroes were in any trouble. The only point at which it looked kinda messy was already spoiled by the trailers. Now on the other hand you have a series of films that has shown the ability to kill off major characters. No one knows what will happen in TDKR.
BigJonsson
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Clayton Bigsby
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Dreams-Visions
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Maybe Hulk was out of control in the ship because of Loki's staff.
of course that's part of why.
that's why Loki wanted to be captured in the first place. his plan was damn near flawless.
Except this notion that because you knew in advance the characters weren't any real trouble, it had no effect on you, but knowing that Batman could die before the movie is out is somehow more emotionally effective?
major characters? Lol ok.
Clayton Bigsby
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No, they were in no real trouble because the film never made me believe they were in any real trouble. Except for maybe Iron Man, but since I had seen the trailer, I knew Hulk saved him.
With regards to knowing that Batman could die, yes, it is more emotionally effective. Not because I assume he will die, but because I cant assume anything. I love not being able to assume anything. Are you honestly telling me knowing for a fact your hero will live is better than not knowing either way?
Are Rachel, Dent, and Ra's not major characters? Bruce's love interest for two films dying is not major?
Do you mean whats-her-name, the recast love interest? Ehhh. I dunno, I don't think the Batman movies are about to turn into Game of Thrones.
You weren't at all worried for Scarlett, in the Hulk freakout scene?
Stellar. Looking forward to glorious hd/color(?) one day.
Always on the mark.
She sold that "holy shit am I out of my league here" expression pretty well.
BigJonsson
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Wasn't there a beat-em-up arcade game similar to X-Men? A new Avengers game like that could be really awesome
Yeah I think you're right. That might explain how he willingly transformed into the Hulk when Iron Man brought that crazy alien thing to him.
I think this was also alluded in the end of the Hulk movie. Banner was trying to control Hulk iirc.
No, it means the excuse of something being emotionally ineffective because you already know it will happen works for both situations. If Batman dies, I was prepared for it because of the rumor and apparently "that's the kind of universe Nolan built."
Yah, no hd port has been made though =/
Clayton Bigsby
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The actress was recast, but that doesnt make the character she played any less important. And no, I was not worried about Scarjo at all. Coulson was surprising, but they tried to build it up as much more important than it was. Coulson tied everything together, but I never got the feeling that anyone gave a shit about him.
This doesnt work. Because I knew none of the heroes in Avengers would die. Hence the big set pieces, while cool to look at, held no weight for me. While I have no idea what will happen in Batman. You are trying to tell me these are the same things, but they are not. It is simply not knowing vs. Knowing. Those two things are not the same.
BigJonsson
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Exactly right.
Despite the number of people who've asked about this, I am kind of glad they didn't spell it out more, for two reasons:
1) If you did see The Incredible Hulk, it was rewarding in its consistency
2) Tony Stark is the only Avenger who seems to understand that he can legitimately control his burden for good, and in opinion the two of them really sold that scene in the lab ("You're saying the Hulk- the other guy- saved my life..."). Having a line of dialogue to be all like "hey audience, when Banner transforms willingly he can control it" would have undercut the unspoken understanding between he and Stark.
Marvel has all sorts of huge potential for games. Disney needs to start throwing some money into videogames as well.
The fan made stuff is amazing. Found these and I just love it (click for big versions);
Nope. I don't even remember him in the Ultimate comics at all, actually.
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