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[cutmeamango]

I'd assume (don't hold this against me pleaaase!) they would go with a (tested and approved) Lord of the Rings or Pirates of the Caribbean movie split angle. All character would be present in all movies, with different splits of screen time according to plot development.

The strongest roster would predominate of course.

 

[WrikaWrek]

Pretty sure that if Avengers 2 introduces characters like Black Panther and Ant Man for example, hell even QuickSilver, that it will mostly just relegate characters like hawkeye and Black Widow to even minor roles.

 

[The Anti-Monitor]

Which is precisely why there shouldn't be any more members. If they need to bring in Ant Man and Black Panther (for example), fine. But then they should bench Hawkeye and Black Widow (for example).

Cap, Hulk, Thor and Iron Man are pretty damn safe regarding screen time, but if more are added, you can be damn sure Hawkeye and Black Widow will be simply secondary characters. As long as we get another awesome shot of all of them I don't think many would complain if they don't do much outside of the obligatory fight scenes.

You can be sure Marvel will use the opportunity to bring some of their characters to light. Making sure the general population is aware of their connection to the Avengers is bound to bring a respectable number of people to see the movie, and I can't see Marvel not trying to do for some of their other characters what they've done for Iron Man.

 

[Glass Rebel]

Which is precisely why there shouldn't be any more members. If they need to bring in Ant Man and Black Panther (for example), fine. But then they should bench Hawkeye and Black Widow (for example).

Yeah, after long contemplating I kinda agree, even though I hate the prospect of leaving out characters. They're stuck between a rock and a hard place tbh. People expect them to add more members but shooting a 3h movie to give every character the appropriate screentime is just not feasible. Iron Man and Hulk are also locks because they're audience favourites and Avengers without Cap... I dunno, I highly doubt it.

I'd assume (don't hold this against me pleaaase!) they would go with a Lord of the Rings or Pirates of the Caribbean movie split angle. All character would be present in all movies, with different splits of screen time according to plot development.

The strongest roster would predominate of course.

Someone suggested splitting off the Secret Avengers and making a second ensemble series so to speak. I don't know if that would work.

 

[marrec]

Yeah, after long contemplating I kinda agree, even though I hate the prospect of leaving out characters. They're stuck between a rock and a hard place tbh. People expect them to add more members but shooting a 3h movie to give every character the appropriate screentime is just not feasible. Iron Man and Hulk are also locks because they're audience favourites and Avengers without Cap... I dunno, I highly doubt it.

They're going to have a hard time fitting Spiderman into the roster once Disney buys back the rights after The Amazing Spiderman bombs.

 

[Glass Rebel]

They're going to have a hard time fitting Spiderman into the roster once Disney buys back the rights after The Amazing Spiderman bombs.

Not at all. They can just have Spidey swinging around in the background and trashtalking the whole time.

I meant as they would be all in the same movies, but the movie would be split in two or three parts. And then they could work out different roles for each hero clusters, without minimizing characters.

A split film for a secondary team could suffer because they would most likely end up in a smaller playground than the Avengers 2.

You mean a "trilogy" so to speak? That would be pretty epic but I don't think that's what Marvel wants do to. They've been pretty clear that we're gonna see an Avengers movie every 3-4 years with solo films in-between.

 

[cutmeamango]

Yeah, after long contemplating I kinda agree, even though I hate the prospect of leaving out characters. They're stuck between a rock and a hard place tbh. People expect them to add more members but shooting a 3h movie to give every character the appropriate screentime is just not feasible. Iron Man and Hulk are also locks because they're audience favourites and Avengers without Cap... I dunno, I highly doubt it.

Someone suggested splitting off the Secret Avengers and making a second ensemble series so to speak. I don't know if that would work.

I meant as they would be all in the same movies, but the movie would be split in two or three parts. And then they could work out different roles for each hero clusters, without minimizing characters.

A split film for a secondary team could suffer because they would most likely end up in a smaller playground than the Avengers 2.

 

[Dilly]

If Spiderman bombs, which I doubt it will and if Marvel would get the rights back.

Would that mean another reboot or just straight into an Avengers movie? Rebooting the same character 3 times in 10 years would be too much.

 

[marrec]

If Spiderman bombs, which I doubt it will and if Marvel would get the rights back.

Would that mean another reboot or just straight into an Avengers movie?

You can't reboot the same character three times in 15 years.

 

[Miggytronz]

If Spiderman bombs, which I doubt it will and if Marvel would get the rights back.

Would that mean another reboot or just straight into an Avengers movie? Rebooting the same character 3 times in 10 years would be too much.

if anything they do a spin off to rekindle the franchise kinda like Incredible Hulk.

 

[Solo]

Spidey won't bomb and Marvel isn't getting him back. Let it go, people.

 

[Dilly]

Spidey won't bomb and Marvel isn't getting him back. Let it go, people.

BELIEVE

 

[marrec]

Spidey won't bomb and Marvel isn't getting him back. Let it go, people.

I was being glib about my Spiderman thing, I doubt it will bomb. If anything Sony should take a cue from what Marvel did with Avengers and just licence the character for use by Marvel in a limited setting, it would only help their franchise.

 

[noah111]

So we can all agree that spider man 2 is better, right?

As a huge spider-man fan who has seen that movie more times than I can count, that's a tough question. The more I think back, though... I say Avengers. It's close, but there's specifics in SM2 that held it back.

Same here, of course, but Avengers is the better/funner flick, imo. Though it really is hard to compare the two, as they're totally different stories.

You guys, EviLore doesn't like In N Out either. Cut him some slack, though; he's allowed to be wrong about a few things.

I don't see how an opinion can be wrong either way, but ok.

Spoiler

but I sure don't agree with him

 

[The Anti-Monitor]

I watched Spider-Man 2 yesterday. It's not as good as you probably remember but it's still Top 3-5 comic movies, easily.

And yeah, as much as I'd love it, it's better to just give up about seeing Spider-Man with his pals here. Spider-Man is too much of a money maker for it to bomb, or for Sony to let Marvel use him.

 

[ScreenSplitter]

I guess it's just a little sad that Marvel can't use their own damn character.

 

[noah111]

Spidey won't bomb and Marvel isn't getting him back. Let it go, people.

For once, I totally agree with you. It's not going to happen, ever, so people need to stop talking about it as if it's a possibility.

I watched Spider-Man 2 yesterday. It's not as good as you probably remember but it's still Top 3-5 comic movies, easily.

And yeah, as much as I'd love it, it's better to just give up about seeing Spider-Man with his pals here. Spider-Man is too much of a money maker for it to bomb, or for Sony to let Marvel use him.

Yeah, I rewatched them all (even 3) a week or so ago and they certainly don't age well. But they're classics regardless, which I think Avengers is destined to be as well.

 

[Solo]

Same goes for X-Men.


Fantastic Four, on the other hand, I could see Fox being willing to sell.

 

[Mr_eX]

If Spiderman bombs, which I doubt it will and if Marvel would get the rights back.

Would that mean another reboot or just straight into an Avengers movie? Rebooting the same character 3 times in 10 years would be too much.

They wouldn't have to do a true reboot, they could just make a new Spiderman movie and not have it be an origin story. Like they did with Incredible Hulk.

 

[ScreenSplitter]

Yeah, I rewatched them all (even 3) a week or so ago and they certainly don't age well. But they're classics regardless, which I think Avengers is destined to be as well.

...even 3?

 

[Glass Rebel]

Same goes for X-Men.


Fantastic Four, on the other hand, I could see Fox being willing to sell.

YES

 

[duckroll]

Yeah, I rewatched them all (even 3) a week or so ago and they certainly don't age well. But they're classics regardless, which I think Avengers is destined to be as well.

You know what really doesn't age well? The first X-Men movie. I tried to watch it again on DVD some months back, and it felt like a goddamn TV movie. :/

 

[noah111]

Which is precisely why there shouldn't be any more members. If they need to bring in Ant Man and Black Panther (for example), fine. But then they should bench Hawkeye and Black Widow (for example).

Wrong. I think some of you are forgetting that a LOT of this movie was simply establishing the origins of each character within the same film. In the sequels, ALL of that will be thrown out of the window. What does this mean? More 'team work' as in all of them in the same room, as well as on the battlefield. Since it's already been set up what they're doing together, that gives leeway to more screensharing.

They can easily add two more characters in the sequel and retain the current roster without a hitch, imo. Those two will most likely be the couple; Ant-Man and Wasp.

You can't reboot the same character three times in 15 years.

Never say never. :lol

 

[The Broken Ska Record]

if anything they do a spin off to rekindle the franchise kinda like Incredible Hulk.

Exactly like I was thinking. A quick in-title credits montage, and straight into the movie.

 

[VeryGooster]

For once, I totally agree with you. It's not going to happen, ever, so people need to stop talking about it as if it's a possibility.


Yeah, I rewatched them all (even 3) a week or so ago and they certainly don't age well. But they're classics regardless, which I think Avengers is destined to be as well.

I still think Spider-Man 2 is really good, but for me the most cringeworthy scene is still Aunt May's "There's a hero in all of us, please pass that message to Spider-Man oh and I fucking threw your comics out, Pete."

 

[The Anti-Monitor]

Dr. Doom deserves his own movie. So talking about the FF going back to Marvel is cruel

He'd make the perfect bridge between Loki and Thanos, too. I'm pretty sure if they don't save Thanos for Avengers 3 it's because we're having Civil War on it.

 

[Solo]

Wrong. I think some of you are forgetting that a LOT of this movie was simply establishing the origins of each character within the same film.

? There was no time spent on origin stories in this.

 

[ScreenSplitter]

Dr. Doom deserves his own movie. So talking about the FF going back to Marvel is cruel

He'd make the perfect bridge between Loki and Thanos, too. I'm pretty sure if they don't save Thanos for Avengers 3 it's because we're having Civil War on it.

See, that's another reason they need X-Men/FF/Spiderman back. Civil War with like... 4 superheroes?!

? There was no time spent on origin stories in this.

I think he meant the general establishing of how they got into the Avengers.

 

[The Broken Ska Record]

Dr. Doom deserves his own movie. So talking about the FF going back to Marvel is cruel

He'd make the perfect bridge between Loki and Thanos, too. I'm pretty sure if they don't save Thanos for Avengers 3 it's because we're having Civil War on it.

Please please please don't have a movie version of Civil War.

 

[Ultimadrago]

So we can all agree that spider man 2 is better, right?

Probably.

 

[duckroll]

Please please please don't have a movie version of Civil War.

Civil War is donkey shit. (((

 

[VeryGooster]

Please please please don't have a movie version of Civil War.

Civil War is donkey shit. (((

This x1000.

 

[Glass Rebel]

Dr. Doom deserves his own movie. So talking about the FF going back to Marvel is cruel

I already said it in the other thread but Books of Doom would make a fantastic origin movie for Doom, bot story wise and visually. And honestly, why not make a movie about a villain, especially one of the most iconic in the Marvel universe, for a change? Fox completely dropped the ball with F4 and more than Spidey and X-Men I want Doom and the F4 to return to Marvel.

 

[LiK]

Please please please don't have a movie version of Civil War.

if it includes Spider-Woman, i'll allow it.

 

[The Anti-Monitor]

Please please please don't have a movie version of Civil War.

Done well? It would be great.

I find that much better than doing what has pushed me away from comics that is trying to one-up the uber-powerfull baddie with someone even more ridiculous. If they do Thanos, would they really go and make Kang the next villain or something like that? Civil War would be something completely new in cinema.

They'll probably just use Ultron to introduce Ant-Man and whoever is new in Avengers 2 and then go all out for Thanos in Avengers 3, but I wouldn't be opposed to a well-done Civil War.

I already said it in the other thread but Books of Doom would make a fantastic origin movie for Doom, bot story wise and visually. And honestly, why not make a movie about a villain, especially one of the most iconic in the Marvel universe, for a change? Fox completely dropped the ball with F4 and more than Spidey and X-Men I want Doom and the F4 to return to Marvel.

If there was any chance of a Dr. Doom movie, I'd be all for it, but let's be realistic.

Would be incredible to see Marvel portray him in all his ham-fisted, magnificent persona though.

 

[The Broken Ska Record]

Civil War is donkey shit. (((

It would make little sense in the movie universe since everyone already knows Tony is Iron Man, and they make it seem like everyone knows Steve is Cap.

Just gimmie over the top action sequences with different Marvel characters against villians, and I'm good.

 

[duckroll]

It would make little sense in the movie universe since everyone already knows Tony is Iron Man, and they make it seem like everyone knows Steve is Cap.

Just gimmie over the top action sequences with different Marvel characters against villians, and I'm good.

And Thor doesn't even hang around on Earth. And no one would give a shit that Bruce Banner being the Hulk since he's technically on the run anyway. Hawkeye and Black Widow are sanctioned SHIELD agents who don't hide their identities either or wear masks.

 

[The Broken Ska Record]

Done well? It would be great.

I find that much better than doing what has pushed me away from comics that is trying to one-up the uber-powerfull baddie with someone even more ridiculous. If they do Thanos, would they really go and make Kang the next villain or something like that? Civil War would be something completely new in cinema.

They'll probably just use Ultron to introduce Ant-Man and whoever is new in Avengers 2 and then go all out for Thanos in Avengers 3, but I wouldn't be opposed to a well-done Civil War.

Hell no. Honestly, who wants to see two big heroes fight against each other on screen for 2 hours? May as well make a Dark Reign movie. Having inter-group turmoil about a decision that Tony and Cap take different sides on I'm okay with, but I don't want that "who's side are you on" crap in the movies.

Besides there are better stories to tell.

 

[LiK]

It would make little sense in the movie universe since everyone already knows Tony is Iron Man, and they make it seem like everyone knows Steve is Cap.

Just gimmie over the top action sequences with different Marvel characters against villians, and I'm good.

no public unmasking of Spider-Man so it'll never happen.

 

[duckroll]

The only way to have Civil War "done well" is to rewrite all of it entirely so it no longer resembles any bit of Civil War at all.

Yes, I hate Civil War. Lol.

 

[noah111]

Civil War haters can stfu, the idea is great at its core and could work in a film if adapted right. HUSH!

I still think Spider-Man 2 is really good, but for me the most cringeworthy scene is still Aunt May's "There's a hero in all of us, please pass that message to Spider-Man oh and I fucking threw your comics out, Pete."

That was the most cringe worthy? Dude. You're forgetting a lot of hilariously shot scenes.

? There was no time spent on origin stories in this.

Only the last 45 minutes WASN'T an origin story. I'm talking about the origins of The Avengers itself, not each character. But introducing each to one another took a lot of time, as did the dynamics.

Dr. Doom deserves his own movie. So talking about the FF going back to Marvel is cruel

I'm curious what they're going to do with the Fantastic Four reboot. Dr. Doom as the first villain AGAIN? I find it hard to believe they'd re-do all of that. Makes me wonder what villain they will go with.

 

[The Anti-Monitor]

Hell no. Honestly, who wants to see two big heroes fight on screen for 2 hours? May as well make a Dark Reign movie. Having inter-group turmoil about a decision that Tony and Cap take different sides on I'm okay with, but I don't want that "who's side are you on" crap in the movies.

Besides there are better stories to tell.

Just saying, I wouldn't be surprised if they want to give it a try. Assume there's, what, 5 more heroes by then (War Machine, Ant-Man, Wasp, and another two), it could make for an interesting thing. I simply think it's better to go there than stupidly trying to top Thanos with the IG in terms of the oh-shit-o-meter, as they have tried in the comics. Obviously their fighting would be caused for something else, but it's better than "AND NOW A NEW ALIEN GUY WHO IS MORE POWERFUL"

Of course, this would be in the case Thanos is on Avengers 2. If he's on Avengers 3 there's plenty of people they can use for Avengers 2, such as Ultron.

I'm curious what they're going to do with the Fantastic Four reboot. Dr. Doom as the first villain AGAIN? I find it hard to believe they'd re-do all of that. Makes me wonder what villain they will go with.

Doom is a pretty famous villain and more popular than the Fantastic Four themselves among geeks (or so it seems). It would be incredibly weird if they don't bring him back. Especially because we'd see the real, god complex, ALL CAPS Dr. Doom.

 

[megashock5]

Fantastic Four, on the other hand, I could see Fox being willing to sell.

As much as I love Peter Parker (been my favorite since I was single digits), getting Reed Richards into the Marvel Studios films would be a huge plus - IF he correctly cast, not the guy from the first two FF movies. Reed with Tony, Banner and maybe Pym? Could be amazing.

Please please please don't have a movie version of Civil War.

Dear God, this. I hated Civil War.

 

[duckroll]

Civil War haters can stfu, the idea is great at its core and could work in a film if adapted right. HUSH!

I'm really not seeing it. I'm open to see what you have in mind though. Maybe you could propose it in the MCU thread. I really think the entire idea is terrible to the core.

 

[The Broken Ska Record]

no public unmasking of Spider-Man so it'll never happen.

B-bu-but Amazing Spider-Man is going to bomb and Sony is going to beg Marvel to take back the rights!

The only way to have Civil War "done well" is to rewrite all of it entirely so it no longer resembles any bit of Civil War at all.

Yes, I hate Civil War. Lol.

I didn't hate Civil War, it was just lackluster.

Civil War haters can stfu, the idea is great at its core and could work in a film if adapted right. HUSH!

I can see them touching on it, but never actually commiting it to the silver screen.

Just saying, I wouldn't be surprised if they want to give it a try. Assume there's, what, 5 more heroes by then (War Machine, Ant-Man, Wasp, and another two), it could make for an interesting thing. I simply think it's better to go there than stupidly trying to top Thanos with the IG in terms of the oh-shit-o-meter, as they have tried in the comics. Obviously their fighting would be caused for something else, but it's better than "AND NOW A NEW ALIEN GUY WHO IS MORE POWERFUL"

Of course, this would be in the case Thanos is on Avengers 2. If he's on Avengers 3 there's plenty of people they can use for Avengers 2, such as Ultron.

That kinda proves my point though. There is enough story to make plenty of Avengers movies. Civil War should be low priority. Hell, I think I'd rather see the Evolutionary War over Civil War any day.

As for Avengers 3, well, that won't be for several, several years anyhow.

 

[THRILLH0]

I'm not big on comic book movies and i've never been a Whedon nerd but I thought this was pretty great. Hawkeye and Black Widow were definitely dispensable not just due to the nature of their characters but I thought the performances were average too.

I actually don't think there will be much backlash for the simple fact that the comic nerds have waited for this one forever, and this is probably the best they can conceivably ask for (I won't comment on what that implies), so they'll probably continue to gather it in their arms lovingly and discuss Phil's death as if he was Elephant Man.

You're wrong but I dunno, if all else fails you can just edit the backlash in down the track.

 

[cutmeamango]

My dream movie would honestly be Magneto causing mutants to revolt and the Avengers having to deal with it.

 

[Pociask]

In terms of new villains, who wouldn't like a good mash up of super villains? The Wrecking Crew, AIM, and the Mandarin working together(until their own ambition and greed leads to their ultimate undoing), for example. Of course, you'd probably want to stick to villains already established in other films, so you don't have to waste a lot of time on origin crap.

 

[The Anti-Monitor]

In terms of new villains, who wouldn't like a good mash up of super villains? The Wrecking Crew, AIM, and the Mandarin working together(until their own ambition and greed leads to their ultimate undoing), for example. Of course, you'd probably want to stick to villains already established in other films, so you don't have to waste a lot of time on origin crap.

Only do it if Dr. Doom leads them and is with the villains from the movies. Now that would be cool.

And Civil War, the concept, is as classic as you can get. Big fight between superheroes. Just make their reasons to do so less stupid and make Iron Man less of a nazi.

 

[jon bones]

i heard they're making the First Class sequel based around Magneto... a FF movie based around Doom as the main character could be so good.