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Marvel's The Avengers |OT| (Dir. Joss Whedon) [Spoilers unmarked]
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Andrew Garfield wants Spiderman to join "The Avengers"
http://www.vulture.com/2012/05/andrew-garfield-death-of-a-salesman-spider-man-interview.html
http://www.vulture.com/2012/05/andrew-garfield-death-of-a-salesman-spider-man-interview.html
Parallax
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If only it was that easy.
HP_Wuvcraft
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I may actually buy that ten disc set.
The Anti-Monitor
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It's downright cruel they tease us like this.
Yeah, I'm really interested in these even though I don't collect toys at all. Can't afford many of them. Maybe I'll stick to Iron Man, once they get to making the Mark VII.
PhoncipleBone
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Seconded. Getting Spidey to interact with Stark and Banner would be amazing.
Of course, I would still kill for a proper live action interpretation of Doctor Doom.
Great comic book villain, or greatest comic book villain?
Escape Goat
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Time to go watch the intro to Marvel Ultimate Alliance. its about as close as we're going to get to Spidey in the avengers.
PhoncipleBone
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If Spidey were to join the Avengers on screen the box office explosion would destroy the world.
Manmademan
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Nah, that won't happen until the inevitable Iron Man/Batman crossover movie in 2020.
I really like Quinton Flynn voicing Spiderman in that, wich is weird since he always voices Venom..
+10000. Seriously. The banter!
I know, kid doesn't even know what the hell he's just started on all the super hero forums.
You suck mister.
hawkeye is fabulous guys
Doing his best Black Widow pose.
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MisterHero
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Watch Spider-Man get in, Coulson recruits him secretly
but it's Tobey Maguire Spider-man
but it's Tobey Maguire Spider-man
You'd think they'd collaborate for that reason alone. I could be super wrong, but I think Sony and Disney would make MAJOR amounts of money if they could (for lack of a better word) share Spidey.
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Speaking of Spider-Man, one nitpick that annoys me to no end is the NYC is being attacked and its just the fucking Avengers saving the day. You would expect the Fantastic Four, Blade or any other Marvel heroes that are based in NYC to make a cameo to help save the day but nope. Fuck the movie studios for not letting this happen and killing my fanboy dreams up the ass.
It is an Avengers film after all. If we were to use that logic then we would never have films based on one hero or group. Spidey would have Iron Man helping him out anytime Goblin was doing something.
Parallax
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blades not an nyc localized hero. hes kinda all over. what kinda bothers me is that it seems that most of the major villains attack new york like theres a huge bullseye on it.
They take shifts, so they don't accidentally plot stuff at the same time, and gives them ample time off to hone their craft or just indulge in hobbies.
So I saw the Avengers for the second time today.
It's somewhat of weaker movie when you know all the jokes ahead of time. Still a great movie, but it has lost much of the impact because you know whats coming and it solidifies it's status, in my mind, as very shallow. Which there is nothing wrong with as far as I'm concerned, and I stress, still a fun movie, but the second view highlights it's flaws and lessens it's strengths.
Just my 2 cents.
It's somewhat of weaker movie when you know all the jokes ahead of time. Still a great movie, but it has lost much of the impact because you know whats coming and it solidifies it's status, in my mind, as very shallow. Which there is nothing wrong with as far as I'm concerned, and I stress, still a fun movie, but the second view highlights it's flaws and lessens it's strengths.
Just my 2 cents.
Freshmaker
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I felt about the same way after my first viewing.
Thing is, I went in mainly expecting to see superheroes doing awesome shit. It delivered.
Hulk punching the space whale? Hell yeah.
One joke that was actually more effective is Hulk smashing Loki, because the first time, opening night, the audience would not stop cheering. This time, I got the hear his groaning, which was utterly hilarious.
The jokes were still effective, and the action was still great and it did definitely deliver on superheroes doing awesome shit. I will never be caught saying this is a bad movie by any stretch of the imagination.
But I do think the people comparing it to Nolan's batman movies are misguided. His films have drama and themes to them. Whether you agree that the movies work or not, his films is definitely trying to tell a meaningful story. Avengers just wants to be fun. These are two seperate paths of entertainment, and while it's perfectly fine to prefer one to another, you have to understand that both movies are attempting different things. It's impossible to make a good comparison that definitively proves the superiority of one over the other when their goals are so separate.
Freshmaker
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He wants to tell a meaningful story. He never actually does.
"Batman. I've come to threaten the city and force you into a moral quandry about your role. I have no real goal, but I really want to teach you an object lesson."
Which villain am I referencing here?
All of them.
Pretty much.
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Hopefully now that they've successfully captured an extremely wide audience with these films, they can inject some emotion and whatnot into them --- it seems to be the path Whedon wants to take with Avengers 2, clearly he's not content just making a "fun movie".
I actually agree completely. The time in the theater I absolutely loved the film and had a blast. When I saw it again though, it just seemed petty good: not great, just good - where the meager story and especially the flaws in Loki's motivation came through. It just doesn't seem like a movie that will hold up without those awesome opening weekend crowd experiences.
Still though, better than most of the summer blockbusters Hollywood churns out.
Speedymanic
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This was my main concern. I'm hoping the few months until the BR release will help me forget some of the more funny scenes/jokes, but I doubt it...gaf will probably be full of gifs weeks before the BR is out.
Let's hope Sony and Disney get their heads out of their collective asses and deliver an Avengers-movie with Spidey in it.
How can New York City be threatened, invaded AND destroyed, and not have one Peter Parker go "hmm, that power and responsibility-thing, maybe it's time to put my money where my mouth is..."?
I mean, Bruce Banner came in from across the globe to help stop it, the least Parker could do is hop around the corner and web a few baddies.
Also; I really want a dialogue between Banner, Stark and Parker on a scientific level.
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isn't the Fantastic 4 HQ located in NY? Where were they when this went down?
How can New York City be threatened, invaded AND destroyed, and not have one Peter Parker go "hmm, that power and responsibility-thing, maybe it's time to put my money where my mouth is..."?
I mean, Bruce Banner came in from across the globe to help stop it, the least Parker could do is hop around the corner and web a few baddies.
Also; I really want a dialogue between Banner, Stark and Parker on a scientific level.
Edit;
isn't the Fantastic 4 HQ located in NY? Where were they when this went down?
Clayton Bigsby
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You do realize that Spiderman doesnt exist in the MCU, right?
This really isn't the place to debate this, but Ra's al Ghul had a definitive goal. As did Scarecrow and Twoface, who didn't really care that much about Batman in particular that much anyway. Scarecrow was just doing his job as a lackey and twoface was trying to resolve his own moral quandry rather than force one on batman. Only joker was in it for the lulz and had a thing with batman, but that was the essence of his character. And honesty, not only what you described can be meaningful on it's own, but it doesn't necessarily even have to be specific to batman, but many stories in general.
But as I said, this really isn't the place to debate this. We can take it to the DKR thread if you want to continue, or you can PM me if you want an isolated discussion. I'm about to head out to Aruba though, so replies might be sporadic. Also, it wasn't even the point of what I was saying. I'm just saying them having 2 different goals makes them incomparable in determining which is the better films. Whether they succeed at what they try is irrelevant.
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You have to understand that the FF4, Spiderman and whoever else simply don't exist in the MCU; the only people that exist with 100% certainty are the ones that have been shown in the MCU movies.
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Uh, what's not to understand? Seeing Spider-Man hang and kick some ass with Thor, Stark, Banner and Capt. would be awesome.
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Avatar money.
Owh I understand, but it's retarded when you look at it from afar. To the common man, Spider-Man is Marvel, Iron Man is Marvel, Thor is Marvel, Hulk is Marvel....
To the common man, not having Spider-Man in a Marvel-comics-movie in NYC is like having a Starsky & Hutch without Huggy Bear; it just feels wrong.
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