I'm sorry but you really don't know what you're talking about. Staying in melee range is a death sentence for any class. Ranged classes have the good fortune of not bring forced to stand there to do damage.
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Especially because Thorns, Nightmarish, and Knockback are actually GOOD for melee. Whenever I see those I sigh a sigh of relief.
Can't say unforunately as I haven't used it before. But regarding Quickening, it was godlike before they "fixed" it this morning. It would generate spirit from crits and your sweeping wind crits quite often. Add in your mystic air ally who also has sweeping wind and you pretty much had an infitite pool of spirit. I literally just spammed mantra of healing with the boon of protection rune and was rolling through bosses like it was nothing. They honestly should've left it alone, because god knows that would've been great for inferno mode.
Right on man. Keep us posted on how it goes.
Funny how that works. "anti melee" affixes make you breath a sigh of relief in Inferno and "anti ranged" clenches your asshole tightly shut.
Yeah, you need a shitload of gear to work it. Although if the melee DR was actually bugged in Inferno, it might not be so bad any more...
All classes suck in inferno.
My brother demolishes shit on his DH. Smoke Screen is so broken. He just stands there and wails on things.
Wizards say sup. CcrooK was laying down the law yesterday with his crazy lazer beams.
theinfinityissue
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The Enchantress is my "waifu". Just sayin.
Melee sucks more since they need to get into the thick of it. Even basic mobs are extremely dangerous until you gear up.
Not all classes require act 4 farming to beat act 2 though!
Really? Wow, I regret going Monk now T_T
And to think my last two choices was Monk and Wizard, I should have gone with the Wizard ;_;
HoodWinked
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lol quickening.
Shows over. Pack it up. Go back to school. Summer is done.
Monks can do it. It's just super boring. Whittling down health slowly while running around waiting for Serenity to pop. Monks are pretty strong, don't get me wrong. Just so damn boring and take forever to kill anything.
yo man. i love you. this WORKS. it FUCKING WORKS. at least so far i haven't had any troubles.
im at ~80 right now, highest i've seen is 180 though, so i can't really tell a difference. but it is interesting. could be that we're playing in the middle of a tuesday lol
Any WD players running a Spiritual Attunement+Vision Quest build? Been toying around with the idea:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/witch-doctor#afUdRX!bVU!ccZZaZ
This is just a theoretical build I plan on trying when I reach level 54 tonight. Was thinking of Snake in the Face Dart or Numbing purely for extra CC/Hell survival.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/witch-doctor#afUdRX!bVU!ccZZaZ
This is just a theoretical build I plan on trying when I reach level 54 tonight. Was thinking of Snake in the Face Dart or Numbing purely for extra CC/Hell survival.
Haha. They're glass cannons mind you, but those damn cannons are good. If I didn't put in so much time with my Monk I'd probably reroll awhile ago. Just going to grin and bear it and see what I can pull to make it through Inferno. As the saying goes, the best offense is a good defense. Going to put that to the test later.
theinfinityissue
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actually, now that you mention it mine is lower than normal also. I'm at 195, down from an average of 270-350ish. Maybe they hit the servers with a wrench.
Joe Shlabotnik
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This page reminds me of my grandmother and great aunt arguing over who suffered more from their maladies.
Yeah my friend is playing wizard and he destroys everything while my monk and 2 barbs are constantly being oneshotted
... makes me have class envy hahah.Well that's a relief to hear I guess..
Sucks that I have to completely change my style of play just to survive, and I was having so much fun with my Monk too..
I know it sounds like QQ but it's more me being annoyed that I can't play inferno with any of the people I leveled up with because I'm such a liability. I've read some posts from people who claim to be able to do inferno with barb but it's just them not realizing that they contribute absolutely nothing other than stunning and making the game harder for everyone there lol
Thank you for the advice. The space bar thing could help a lot. My hands are kind of weak and reaching for the numbers and the shift key with my weak pinky is uncomfortable. Space bar should be much better.
I'm not really used to clicking my scroll wheel on the mouse, but I'll try it. It seems to make the most sense.
Thanks again for all the suggestions from everyone. I really appreciate it.
wait so barbs can't do inferno? why not?
DJ Lushious
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Right outside Chicago.
There are plenty of things I'd rather do than deal with Comcast's Tier 1 support. Such as being water boarded.
tycoonheart
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Can you post your barb build.
DJ Lushious
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Same here. It took some adjusting on my part, but I can't imagine playing the game any other way now.
weekend_warrior
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some posted this on reddit... also everything in this game looks cooler in german
That makes my 10.6 dam/sec crossbow look pretty crappy.
You can really only tank for a couple seconds with ignore pain and if you're lucky, timely revenges. Outside of that you're only there for shouts, or to stun groups while you run around frantically trying to regen your health and wait for your cooldowns so you can tank for a couple seconds again. Your DPS is insanely low compared to everyone else because you spent all your resources getting vitality, armor, and resistances so you could tank for a couple more seconds.
So really you're not a good tank and you're not a good damage dealer. Stun and crowd control are helpful but not at the rate enemies scale in inferno imo
I've been trying everything. I've had 60k hp but that was pointless and I still got 2 shotted by those stupid wasp stingers. Now I'm going more armor (7-9k) with better defenses but this route is very, very, very expensive. You're essentially buying equipment from people who can actually farm act 4 and it all comes at a premium. I switched my passives from offensive to Inspiring Presence/Tough as Nails/Nerves of Steel. My main attacks are basically War Cry->Seismic Slam->Frenzy->Ground Stomp->Ignore Pain->Frenzy all while mashing Revenge with Provocation hoping it pops up 30% of the time. Right now Act 1 is a lot easier than when I was more offensive but it's also a lot less fun. I played from Normal->Hell with dual wielding axe/maces but now I have to play with a shield to get more defenses. I bought two legendary items to get my block chance up to 36% which helps a bit. I'm probably going to add enough dex to get to 20% dodge chance but it's all really boring gameplay. I spend more time running and trying to regen than actually fighting and I mostly solo inferno now because I'm such a burden on groups.
I am in Chicago... interesting.
My cousin is gonna be so mad when I tell him this :/
I have something around 30% Crit so, honestly, it's fine just on FoT for the most part. Then again, maybe I'm wrong and my sustainability was from Sweeping Wind and not anything else. Which would be pretty saddening. I liked that it was getting pretty hard to ever die in Hell.
Regarding Crippling Wave+Concussion and Resolve, I used them all game until Hell basically. Swapping out from Concussion had a damage increase typically speaking, though I never tried Resolve swapping. Granted, I survive a lot better without both of them now so perhaps they weren't working and I just had streaky damage samples since I wasn't really testing it.
So, of the people who have played multiple classes which do you find to be the most entertaining?
I've played almost all the classes through Act I normal (which isn't saying much) and gotten to Nightmare with my Barbarian.
I'm not in a place to say which is my favorite but I was certainly surprised at how much fun the Demon Knight can be (and he was the class I was least interested in). I had a ton of fun with the Barbarian (the feel of hitting things with him is fantastic). I also really enjoyed the Wizard too. The Monk and Witch Doctor weren't as fun as I was expecting them to be.
I've played almost all the classes through Act I normal (which isn't saying much) and gotten to Nightmare with my Barbarian.
I'm not in a place to say which is my favorite but I was certainly surprised at how much fun the Demon Knight can be (and he was the class I was least interested in). I had a ton of fun with the Barbarian (the feel of hitting things with him is fantastic). I also really enjoyed the Wizard too. The Monk and Witch Doctor weren't as fun as I was expecting them to be.
well that kinda sucks.
i mean, i got nothin to add, just that i hope by the time i get to inferno, shit gets figured out on our end so i can keep playing the class i love
Good summary. Inferno has been so frustrating as a barb.
I've toyed around with the Monk, Wizard, and Witch Doctor so far, and if I wasn't so lazy I'd reroll to Wizard or perhaps Barbarian (WD is my main).
I'm only in Nightmare so I can still steamroll with the right build (cough vision quest cough), but mana is so horrible compared to all the other power mechanics. Slow regen wouldn't matter so much if we didn't go OOM with five or six casts of just about any non-primary spell.
LowParry
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Which I've read, Disintegrate doesn't crit? I see the occasional crits (I believe) from the runed aspect of it. 9 - 10k crits. It's a pretty powerful tool for a Wizard. I can farm Act 1 Inferno with not much of any issues. Act 2 is so damn hard. Even for kiting. Those stupid ass flying bugs that shoot the smaller ones at you. So so lame.
ComputerMKII
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Aaaaand Nightmare mode beaten. 
Tried this yesterday.
It doesn't.
Going to try a new setup when I get home, here's what I'm looking at.
Crippling Wave - Concussion (enemies hit by crippling wave do 20% less damage for 3 seconds)
Inner Sanctuary - Circle of Protection (while standing in the circle you take 35% less damage)
Serenity - Peaceful Repose (healed when activated)
Mantra of Evasion - Hard Target (increases Armor by 20%)
Breath of Heaven - Infused with Light (generate an additional 6 spirit with spirit generating attacks)
Mystic Ally - Air Ally (chance to generate 100 spirit for you)
Passive Skills:
Resolve: Damage you deal reduces enemies damage by 25% for 2.5 secs
Transcendence: You are healed when you spend spirit
Seize the Initiative: Armor is increased by 100% of your Dexterity.
I have Mystic Ally for more or less a shield that can take the focus off me as I wait for my skills to come off their cooldowns. I'll post an update on how this pans out later. I checked the Blizzard forums and apparently Concussion and Resolve weren't working before but are now.. I think. We'll see.
Is Fists of Thunder/Quickening and Mantra of Healing/Boon of Protection not viable on Inferno? Something like this: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/monk#aQXgTi!!YbbabZ
There aren't passives selected there, it'd be transcendence + and maybe One with Everything if resists are stacked up reasonably
Those Wasps are probably the strongest things in the game.
dinosaur_hunter2
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Just finished Act III yesterday (Normal, my first run). Amazing CG. I hope I can beat Act IV tonight and then move to Nightmare. It's been very fun playing as a Monk.
FieryBalrog
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Apparently joining general chat helps fix lag issues?
I'm so confused.
This is hilarious if true.
I'm so confused.
This is hilarious if true.
MrPing1000
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Grenades are overlooked, I quite like them, but they only really shrine with 3+ players.
Their damage is too unreliable against anything moving, caltrops helps but it's a lot of effort.
In co-op grenadier + stun grenades + stun cluster arrow is really really good. You can reduce the incoming damage to melee so much that it can make some fights and bosses trivial on nightmare+
Well, that's one way to get people in there.
sankt-Antonio
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1500ms ping - wtf Blizz? I just want to play the game all by myself right NOW... :'(
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