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Is the douching/enema process really complicated and tedious?
Is it really that necessary --every single time-- to begin with?
Does performing anal without it get messy every single time?
Are all the side effects (abrasions, susceptibility to STDs/HIV, etc) justified or overblown?
Does it merely depend on the preference of the couple, or vary depending on penis size?
I'm only assuming. . . .

A) I don't know.
B) I don't think it's necessary. I think you just have to go to the bathroom an hour or so prior so that the insides are empty. Probably shower really, really well. :p
C) Probably not. (See above?)
D) I wouldn't know. I think that STDs and HIV/AIDS are all valid worries if you don't know the person's history.
E) What preference? What does size have to do with it? Unless it's a size queen. :p
 
sorry to hear that but that's the price to get laid, people can fall in love for you.

have you tried writing an email? you don't have to "reject", just make it clear that you are not ready for a relationship for the time being.
Nah, I won't write an email. I guess I have to man up and tell him in person. That's the right thing to do but I just suck at these kinds of things. Why couldn't it be just a one night stand -_-
Alrus said:
I would run away really fast if somebody called me "my love" so soon after I met him. Setting things right as early as possible seems to be the best way to go.
I guess I should keep my distance but ugh, he was already "I'm afraid you won't be calling me back", "you'll let me to see you again, right?" :/ I feel bad because he's a really nice dude, just clingy and intense. And he's not my type at all.
 
Nah, I won't write an email. I guess I have to man up and tell him in person. That's the right thing to do but I just suck at these kinds of things. Why couldn't it be just a one night stand -_-

I guess I should keep my distance but ugh, he was already "I'm afraid you won't be calling me back", "you'll let me to see you again, right?" :/ I feel bad because he's a really nice dude, just clingy and intense. And he's not my type at all.

Well if he's not your type there's really no other way about it... You will probably hurt him if he's that intense but the longer you wait, the more complicated it will become, in my experience.

Is the douching/enema process really complicated and tedious?
Is it really that necessary --every single time-- to begin with?
Does performing anal without it get messy every single time?
Are all the side effects (abrasions, susceptibility to STDs/HIV, etc) justified or overblown?
Does it merely depend on the preference of the couple, or vary depending on penis size?

-Well douching really isn't too pleasant imo (I had to do it for medical reasons). Aside from that, it really isn't complicated and doesn't take too much time.
-No it's not, if you have a good diet and go a bit before having sex, you shouldn't have any problem. Also douching too much is not recommended, it's not that great for your colon.
-Nope
-Of Anal in general? Abrasion happens and can lead to hemorrhoids(amongst other unpleasantness) but if you're well prepared, it shouldn't be a problem. And well the susceptibility to HIV is due to micro-cuts and blood exposure, I think, and yes anal is risky in that regard.
-Not everyone likes anal, so yeah it depends on preference.
 
I have never tried an enema in my life and I haven't had any... "muslides of fun", luckily. I just try to go the bathroom If I know there's a chance I'm getting laid :P.... speaking of which...

Gosh GAF, I don't know what to do (I kinda do but I'm trying to avoid it) ... I met this guy yesterday and um we ended up having sex. Anyway... he already thinks I'm going to be his boyfriend. When we were getting it on he was all "well, in a couple of days when you become my boyfriend.." and he started calling me "my love". Dafuq?! I mean we got a long and he's cool but it really freaked me out he would be all clingy after 4 hours of meeting me -_-. I guess I'll have to talk to him and tell him that I don't want a relationship right now and we can keep fooling around if he wants. He seems really excited about me and ugh, I hate to deal with this kind of stuff. I actually feel kinda bad about rejecting him.

I've had this happen twice after I quit drinking (and never before). I think sobriety means sincerity to some people.
 
E) What preference? What does size have to do with it? Unless it's a size queen. :p
Ha, I could have explained that point better, so let me rephrase: I've heard of tops refusing to have sex unless their bottoms regularly perform enemas. In their cases it sounded like a personal preference rather than one motivated by facts. The opposite is true as well. As for the second part: does the need for an enema depend on the top's size? For example if you're about to take on a spleen-rupturing dick, you might wanna consider having one.

I know the last question sound silly, but I'm throwing everything out there. I've personally never had it, never asked for it, and never had any problems. But it's just curiosity.

I've had this happen twice after I quit drinking (and never before). I think sobriety means sincerity to some people.
Did you really quit drinking?! I'm... So proud.
 
Question(s):

I was talking to a friend earlier this week and he told me that during his 7-year long marriage, he and his partner never tried anal. He cited the cumbersome prep process as one of his reasons, and after further discussion it got me thinking:

Is the douching/enema process really complicated and tedious?
Is it really that necessary --every single time-- to begin with?
Does performing anal without it get messy every single time?
Are all the side effects (abrasions, susceptibility to STDs/HIV, etc) justified or overblown?
Does it merely depend on the preference of the couple, or vary depending on penis size?

I've never had any bad experiences so far, but then again I never questioned or demanded anything. Searching on the internet yields results both for and against it, but I wanted to hear it directly from the people here.

You insert the nozzle, lay on your side for about five minutes, and expel the liquids. If used as directed, it's perfectly safe. Of course it's not necessary, and any preference would be on the bottom.

ETA: If I'm not mistaken, you can't feel anything beyond the anal canal and the rectum, which is all around 7 in. So if you're taking on a particularly well endowed person, you could use an enema to make extra sure. Normally, if you use the bathroom beforehand, you don't have to worry about it either way.
 
Is the douching/enema process really complicated and tedious?
Is it really that necessary --every single time-- to begin with?
Does performing anal without it get messy every single time?
Are all the side effects (abrasions, susceptibility to STDs/HIV, etc) justified or overblown?
Does it merely depend on the preference of the couple, or vary depending on penis size?

1)Enemas aren't really complicated. Basically you just stick it in.

2)I guess how necessary it is would depend on the person and their diet. Now with some enemas, it isn't advisable to use them in quick succession. But Fleet came out with an enema that they claim can be used daily. It was made with Anal Sex in mind.

3)It would depend on the person and their diet. The guys I've been with don't use enema, and there hasn't been any problems.

4)Anal is the most risky sex, but it's not equivalent to playing in toxic waste anything. With lots of lube and a condom, everything should generally be fine.

5)It would depend on the preference, I guess
 
Nothing wrong with getting drunk on a sunday :) I wish I could do it more often, bars are much more peaceful on sundays, it's nice for a change.
Well yeah, the bar was pretty empty. They shooshed us away at 9 (and we were drunk already at this time, god). I also have gotten drunk on Mondays lol. I have no shame -_- the advantages of being unemployed I guess.
 
I don't think I could ever give enema a go. The only thing that sounds nasty is the water coming out of your ass just ew, no, cringe askjflsg;
 
I use an enema fleet since I don't eat enough fiber. Cleans you out real good. Gotta lay on your stomach with your butt in the air. You will usually get the need to poop within 2-5 minutes.
 
I use an enema fleet since I don't eat enough fiber. Cleans you out real good. Gotta lay on your stomach with your butt in the air. You will usually get the need to poop within 2-5 minutes.

be cool to find a guy into scat. that way he can have a good shit fuck fest amirite.
 
You guys. I was going down the road in a car with a friend when some gangsta cholos rolled down their window and yelled "Jotos stay inside!" I don't know what gave me away. I think I'm pretty manly.
 
You guys. I was going down the road in a car with a friend when some gangsta cholos rolled down their window and yelled "Jotos stay inside!" I don't know what gave me away. I think I'm pretty manly.

Stop blowing your friends in public, Issac. That's what gave you away.

I also love playing the straight man and giving the facts to straight men about anal sex from my (albit very limited) anal sex experience to blow that whole "it isn't gay if the balls aren't touching" "joke" out of the water. Annoys me a bit, but that's for another time since this tea seems to be taking effect and I gotta go to work early tomorrow.

Yay. Work.
 
My bestie girl-friend/school wife/fag hag might be moving in with me for a month or two. That could be fun; I've never had a roommate before.
 
You guys. I was going down the road in a car with a friend when some gangsta cholos rolled down their window and yelled "Jotos stay inside!" I don't know what gave me away. I think I'm pretty manly.

You can't "blame" yourself for being so apparent.
After all, gangsta cholos are people with excellent judge of character and gaydar. They know their shit!
 
Soooo... I'm looking to buy some toys. I want to buy a dildo, I have no idea where to start. It will be my first one, I'm a virgin, and I'm pretty tight.

Suggestions? I don't want to put something in my ass that could give me cancer or whatever so keep that in mind. :)

I forgot to reply to this the other day.

This is something where you don't cheap out. Spend the extra money to get a good quality toy made from silicone (or glass or metal, but those aren't nearly as appealing to me personally). When you see a low-priced rubber cock, it's guaranteed to be made from PVC, which has potentially dangerous chemical issues; they're also porous and will collect bacteria even when cleaned. Avoid PVC. Buy silicone toys.

There's no shame in buying something on the smaller side for your first one, but there's a good chance you'll want to upgrade to a bigger one (yet still realistic in size) fairly soon after. :) They're a lot of fun to use and experiment with, and once you figure out what feels particularly good to you, you're gonna blow some huge loads, heh.
 
Enemas are actually really bad for your health. Eat more fibre.

Only in the same way every other laxative is bad for your health. Frequent use of laxatives can change the way your body responds to waste in the colon. If used infrequently and as directed on the package, they can be safe and effective. Basically, only use an enema or any other laxative if you really, really need to.
 
I forgot to reply to this the other day.

This is something where you don't cheap out. Spend the extra money to get a good quality toy made from silicone (or glass or metal, but those aren't nearly as appealing to me personally). When you see a low-priced rubber cock, it's guaranteed to be made from PVC, which has potentially dangerous chemical issues; they're also porous and will collect bacteria even when cleaned. Avoid PVC. Buy silicone toys.

There's no shame in buying something on the smaller side for your first one, but there's a good chance you'll want to upgrade to a bigger one (yet still realistic in size) fairly soon after. :) They're a lot of fun to use and experiment with, and once you figure out what feels particularly good to you, you're gonna blow some huge loads, heh.

<3 Thank you. Still haven't got one, but I plan to this week. :)
 
Well that won't work for me. I guess i could date other types of guys, its just that Asian guys turn my sex drive into overdrive.




Well being Black and heavy is two huge marks against me in the gay world so its hard to try and impress someone.

how was your trip to Japan? it must have killed you inside.
 
"I'm into other races other than asians"

Ouch.

But seriously: There's nothing to "say" or "do." It's a matter of being charming. Have you gotten off your "I HATE MYSELF AND I WANT TO DIE" kick yet? Because if not, you need to work on that before even thinking of bagging a guy. And I say that as a "I HATE MYSELF AND I WANT TO DIE" person.
 
Guys. I'm gay and anal sex grosses me out. Like, just reading your convo about it makes me feel nauseous. Why does this happen to me? I seriously don't understand it. Probably going to adversely affect potential boyfriends someday :(
 
being down all the time. probably downer than your chances of hooking up with an asian guy with the rate youre going. It's really not attractive.

I wish i could change my mood with a flip of a switch. god knows i would love that. ive just had horrible experiences compounded with lots of regret compounded with a horrible present life. i wish i could date since i am not getting any younger. Now i feel down thinking about all of this..
 
Guys. I'm gay and anal sex grosses me out. Like, just reading your convo about it makes me feel nauseous. Why does this happen to me? I seriously don't understand it. Probably going to adversely affect potential boyfriends someday :(

Anal sex grosses me out too and I've read every post in this thread :<
 
Guys. I'm gay and anal sex grosses me out. Like, just reading your convo about it makes me feel nauseous. Why does this happen to me? I seriously don't understand it. Probably going to adversely affect potential boyfriends someday :(

Nothing wrong with that. If your future spouse pushes for anal you'll either do it or tell them flat out "no," and if they don't dealwithitdog.gif you'll break up.

But really, it's not a big deal. You just have to find someone that doesn't care. I don't mind anal, but I really don't care enough to do it often.
 
I forgot to reply to this the other day.

This is something where you don't cheap out. Spend the extra money to get a good quality toy made from silicone (or glass or metal, but those aren't nearly as appealing to me personally). When you see a low-priced rubber cock, it's guaranteed to be made from PVC, which has potentially dangerous chemical issues; they're also porous and will collect bacteria even when cleaned. Avoid PVC. Buy silicone toys.

There's no shame in buying something on the smaller side for your first one, but there's a good chance you'll want to upgrade to a bigger one (yet still realistic in size) fairly soon after. :) They're a lot of fun to use and experiment with, and once you figure out what feels particularly good to you, you're gonna blow some huge loads, heh.
To add.

Find a sex store and ask the girls there. You'll normally get an idea of what is good and what isn't from them. Particularly with what material to go with, vibrations, and other things. Its what I did and I'm pretty happy with my current one.

Its been the same way with purchasing make up, more feminine clothing, and sex toys. Once I started to ask people there who know their business. You'll get what you need.
 
What? You simply don't go into fitting rooms in public with dresses and try them on yourself?

You know, I wouldn't mind buying lipstick and putting it on in private... if I had the privacy...
 
I wish i could change my mood with a flip of a switch. god knows i would love that. ive just had horrible experiences compounded with lots of regret compounded with a horrible present life. i wish i could date since i am not getting any younger. Now i feel down thinking about all of this..

I don't think feelings or mood are ever the problem in and of themselves, so much as the attitude that they should somehow change, go away, or persist to better suit us. A lot of people adopt the approach where they convince themselves that they really don't feel a certain way, or they try to trick themselves into seeing something they deem negative as being good... but that doesn't work. If you're miserable, then you're miserable, we have to be honest with ourselves. And this attitude is constructive, because for example you can't cure an illness if you refuse to see the symptoms clearly. But at the same time, I'm sure your approach makes you more miserable than you would otherwise be, if you were just aware of your feelings in an open and detached way. I'm reminded of the Buddhist parable of the two arrows. Pain isn't something we should avoid, beyond stepping out of the way if we can, as the attempt is akin to inflicting a second entirely superfluous wound on ourselves, and some pain we can never avoid so we must then have the means to deal with that. I can shut up, but in my experience the way out is never wishing that things are different, that just causes an even bigger second problem.
 
What? You simply don't go into fitting rooms in public with dresses and try them on yourself?

You know, I wouldn't mind buying lipstick and putting it on in private... if I had the privacy...

See, but if I don't know how to put it on properly. Well... I don't know how to put it on properly. Hence why I ask them. I now know how to make my eyes pop, properly apply concealer for max effect, etc. I also got a great trick for making my eyebrows different colours. Rather than the methods online with using blush, eyeshadow, or pencil liner. She directed me towards colour lipstick instead. Which dyed them the exact colour I needed and fabulously, were 3 or 4 people asked me exactly how I got them so good. But that was for a costume and not everyday. I got pretty good at the everyday make-up now too, where I don't really have to feel embarrassed about terrible skin if I don't want too. And in general, clean up my face and hair too look good. Basically, I have a good kit of make up now compared to the crappy kit I originally created by myself.

With clothing. I still want opinions. I've never actually done it with a dress. Can't say I'm too interested in wearing one in public, but I'm more referring to shirts, pants, and sweaters(Girls have awesome sweaters). So I'll browse to see what I like and ask for an opinion. Its worked out pretty well too. Lots of great compliments and I've gotten far better at shopping around myself thanks to it.
 
Oh, you're talking non-cross-dressing fashion itself? Just simple Metrosexual look? I guess that can be useful. But asking women for men clothes tips seems a little funky to me. But then again I'm the potato sack and jeans type of person, so what the hell do I know about fashion? :lol
 
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