WSJ: Apple to increase iPhone screen size to 'at least' 4-inches

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Not crazy about the banding on the back, but I like the way the frame looks.

We have at least 3 months until this comes out, so I'll withhold judgment until it's released.
 
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should be, "What ive done"
 
I dunno where all this negative reaction is coming from. To me it looks like a slightly nicer interpretation of the iPhone 4's design.

On the one hand, I do like how it looks fairly similar to the iPhone 4 design, but on the other, I'm not too happy about the headphone jack on the bottom, and I'm especially not too happy about the two tone colored look. I still think the iPhone 4 was their best design if these leaks hold up.
 
The dock? Maybe. That's why it was a KickStarter. He wasn't sure how viable it would be, so he asked people if they wanted one. Clearly they did.

You seem unnecessarily hostile.
It just struck me as amusing that by the time that dock gets through manufacturing a new dock connector will either be out or be very close to being out. I mean I haven't followed the kickstarter but I'm under the assumption it's still gonna be a few months before the manufacturing run is completed.
 
I believe the reason the white looks so poor is that the middle white area may not actually be white. It almost looks like a piece of aluminum similar to the rest of the polished aluminum look on Apple deivces. I can't quite tell, but I would wager the top and bottom bands are glass.
 
It just struck me as amusing that by the time that dock gets through manufacturing a new dock connector will either be out or be very close to being out. I mean I haven't followed the kickstarter but I'm under the assumption it's still gonna be a few months before the manufacturing run is completed.
It's been delayed; it's not even out yet. And unlike other product preorders there are (typically) no returns accepted for Kickstarter projects. But every backer should have known that going in.
 
It's mostly Sentry crying. It looks fine to me.
I might be the most vocal but you must be blind if you think a lot of people don't like this look.

Of course at the end of the day, it'll look fine because we'll get used to whatever Apple throws our way, but damn... WHY? That's the question

I do think the black looks much better than the white.
I think so too, but I wonder if it's the angle and lighting that's giving off the impression that the back on the black version is more of a charcoal aluminum or if it's really just traditional iPad-like grey.
 
I might be the most vocal but you must be blind if you think a lot of people don't like this look.

Of course at the end of the day, it'll look fine because we'll get used to whatever Apple throws our way, but damn... WHY? That's the question

You're right, that's the question. And it's not going to be answered for months. We keep coming back to this whining over not understanding why decisions have supposedly been made. We don't have all the information needed to make a decision yet on whether a design is worth it or not.
 
It's pretty ugly. I don't like non-uniformity, so those bands on the back are awful. I'm still due for an upgrade, though, and my iPhone 4 is getting pretty slow, so ugly phone it is.
 
You're right, that's the question. And it's not going to be answered for months. We keep coming back to this whining over not understanding why decisions have supposedly been made. We don't have all the information needed to make a decision yet on whether a design is worth it or not.
The more I think about it.... Ok, so the phone got physically longer, right? It reasons to assume that the glass back could have been a structural integrity issue, too vulnerable or something.

I might be pissing in the wind but that's all I can really think of from a viable reasoning/necessity point of view..

Maybe it's not steel? Maybe it's Liquid Metal?
I was thinking the same thing, but I recall reading somewhere (9to5?) that this won't be the device to include liquid metal. Who knows, though.
 
I can't fucking wait to have a bigger phone. I'm tweakin', I'm tweakin'! Not a huge fan of the headphone jack placement though.
 
The more I think about it.... Ok, so the phone got physically longer, right? It reasons to assume that the glass back could have been a structural integrity issue, too vulnerable or something.

I might be pissing in the wind but that's all I can really think of from a viable reasoning/necessity point of view..

From a product perspective, it doesn't make sense to have an existing iPad (called the new Ipad) that's made out of a unibody style, and an iPhone (presumably called the new iPhone) that's made out of glass. I wouldn't expect them to keep the back as glass unless they were fully convinced that it was the way to go forever. They didn't keep the same form factor from the 3G to the 4, and I didn't think they'd keep it for this either.

As far as the question of why they're making the change to a widescreen ratio for the new iPhone. We don't know yet. I'd wager that it's not a random thing and that there's some substantial changes coming in iOS 6 to take advantage of it.
 
What would be the difference? Weight / feel?

From a confidential source:

Liquid metal casing would mean less machining and thinner case.

Much more expensive but you replace a lot of steps. They basically injection mould metal which is crazy for consumer parts.

Liquid metal is basically a metal forming technology that allows the grain structure to for through a rapid cooling step. Makes it very strong. So you can use less of the material to get the same properties of the comparable material.
 
From a confidential source:

Engineering chemistry class...

When you rapidly quench something, you will form smaller grains which will increase a lot of mechanical properties (like surface hardness) but you also make a more brittle structure.
 
Engineering chemistry class...

When you rapidly quench something, you will form smaller grains which will increase a lot of mechanical properties (like surface hardness) but you also make a more brittle structure.

That's true for regular liquid metals being cast, and not the the new Liquid® liquid metals.
 
I'm digging it.

It solves on of the major flaws on the 4/4S design, the fragility of the back. It does so by also adding a design feature in which the antenna breaks are now an assumed part of the design (white in the white version) and determine where those upper and lower chins end, giving the back a more symmetrical feel with the front which is also composed by a large rectangle between 2 chins.

Larger LED should be better, and the new placement of the second mic (noise canceling and recording) is smart.

Colored metal in the black iPhone is an unexpected change of events for Apple, I hope that turns out well. I can imagine a worn out black iPhone not looking so good with all its grey scratches...
If it turns out well, I can imagine Apple bring that to more devices. Black iPad, MacBooks.

I have no particular feeling about the new jack placement, although as principle I always preferred it being on the top. But I can see advantages for both placements.

The new dock connector... had to happen, sooner or later. I won't affect me that much, assuming they release an adapter. But yeah for a couple of years we won't take advantage of the almost ubiquitous iPod/iPhone cable available in every household to get a quick charge, sync or something.

The only think I really don't like about this is the new aspect ratio.
 
I'm digging it.

It solves on of the major flaws on the 4/4S design, the fragility of the back. It does so by also adding a design feature in which the antenna breaks are now an assumed part of the design (white in the white version) and determine where those upper and lower chins end, giving the back a more symmetrical feel with the front which is also composed by a large rectangle between 2 chins.

Larger LED should be better, and the new placement of the second mic (noise canceling and recording) is smart.

Colored metal in the black iPhone is an unexpected change of events for Apple, I hope that turns out well. I can imagine a worn out black iPhone not looking so good with all its grey scratches...
If it turns out well, I can imagine Apple bring that to more devices. Black iPad, MacBooks.

I have no particular feeling about the new jack placement, although as principle I always preferred it being on the top. But I can see advantages for both placements.

The new dock connector... had to happen, sooner or later. I won't affect me that much, assuming they release an adapter. But yeah for a couple of years we won't take advantage of the almost ubiquitous iPod/iPhone cable available in every household to get a quick charge, sync or something.

The only think I really don't like about this is the new aspect ratio.
Couldn't they have solved that problem by making the entire back out of that material, rather than those top and bottom ugly glass bezels? But yeah, I basically agree with everything else.
 
Couldn't they have solved that problem by making the entire back out of that material, rather than those top and bottom ugly glass bezels? But yeah, I basically agree with everything else.

How could we possibly know that? Maybe they couldn't? Maybe the top and bottom serve some purpose? Maybe Ive thinks it's the best thing ever?
 
Couldn't they have solved that problem by making the entire back out of that material, rather than those top and bottom ugly glass bezels? But yeah, I basically agree with everything else.

I kind of like it. If the glass areas on the front are the same size as the ones on the back it could be rather nice looking - and the back metal the same size as the screen would add some nice balance into the product.
 
How could we possibly know that? Maybe they couldn't? Maybe the top and bottom serve some purpose? Maybe Ive thinks it's the best thing ever?
It's probably the latter. :p I still think that leaked slightly wider iPhone design was best, with the iPad-like back. Ridiculously thin and still beautifully in-line with all the other Apple devices.

I secretly hope there will be two SKU's. :lol
 
The back of the phone really looks like someone forgot to remove the cellophane wrap around the chocolate bar...

this sort of thing: http://weddingstar.com/images/products/medium/1035-11.jpg

The proportion of the size of the glassy top and bottom vs. the aluminum middle just seems wrong, feels like the middle should just be removed prior to use. The camera lens being too close to the aluminum part vs. the distance to the top of the phone doesn't help the matters.
 
Can we take Sentry out back and fucking shoot him already? The amount of faux outrage and buttfuckery is now beyond annoying. It's just stupid.

Face facts, Apple is changing to match what the market is saying is what consumers want. Apple is going to be able to match their OS with the size. Everyone chill the fuck out.
 
Can we take Sentry out back and fucking shoot him already? The amount of faux outrage and buttfuckery is now beyond annoying. It's just stupid.

Face facts, Apple is changing to match what the market is saying is what consumers want. Apple is going to be able to match their OS with the size. Everyone chill the fuck out.
Even Apple magic can't make 16:9 a good aspect ratio.
 
Couldn't they have solved that problem by making the entire back out of that material, rather than those top and bottom ugly glass bezels? But yeah, I basically agree with everything else.
Surely the new design shouldn't be just a re-hashed iPhone 4 with a backplate made of other material, which you could get right now from ebay or something.

I know, it seems weird that the back isn't flush, simple. Apple is all about simplicity. But Apple also likes symmetry. In a way, the back now looks more like the front.

So they went for that design. It's new and unique enough so it feels refreshed. And it makes sense, it's not simply adding bells and whistles for the sake of it.

Whether it works or not, we'll have it see it in person. Shitty shots of spare parts don't make justice to anything...
 
what’s bumming me out is that, based on the headphone port, the thickness hasn’t changed. still looks to be around 9 mm.

I want my 6 mm phone that I can use to slice tomatoes on the porch on warm summer days
 
Face facts, Apple is changing to match what the market is saying is what consumers want
If this statement were a fact (on a fundamental level) than we have shit to worry about, I'd say.
 
If this statement is a fact (on a fundamental level) than we have shit to worry about, I'd say.

Apple has always done this. There are certain areas of the product where they set the trend, and there is a certain areas where they follow it, and then there is a certain areas where they just say fuck all and don't give a shit. They are a pretty organic company with organic products that change based on Apple's and Apple's customer's needs - I see no problem with how Cook is running the company, and I am sure when this thing is released, that there would be few reasons to doubt his choices.
 
Really dude?
Yep.

Apple isn't the "well clearly customers know better than we do" company by any stretch. Customers don't know what's best for them, Apple does.

That last sentence was intentionally preposterous...that's the mentality of the Applr of old
Apple has always done this. There are certain areas of the product where they set the trend, and there is a certain areas where they follow it, and then there is a certain areas where they just say fuck all and don't give a shit. They are a pretty organic company with organic products that change based on Apple's and Apple's customer's needs - I see no problem with how Cook is running the company, and I am sure when this thing is released, that there would be few reasons to doubt his choices.
What's different about this screen size thing, to me at least, is that presumably countless tests were done over many years and 3.5in is the screen size that was deemed the best.

Changing that now seems entirely reactive.
 
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