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I'm from Alberta and I've always liked Quebec.
How does the rest of Canada feel about Quebec?
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The Power Of Snap
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Good post. Thing is, if we didn't have laws to protect the language, nobody would speak french in 2012.
And you don't have more corrupt than the honourable Jean Charest.
Not at all. It's quite the opposite really. With immigration going up Quebec separatism will go down. They'll never win a referendum. However, most French Quebecers are very proud of having a distinct culture which is why they are very protective of it, and of the French language (which is really annoying imo). They will also always consider themselves a Quebecer before a Canadian. But that's typical of any area in a country that has a different history/culture.
I'm from Montreal btw.
In Bieber's case, isn't that a good thing we didn't create this monster?
p_xavier
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I never said that QC would win a referendum. People just don't care anymore. That's the point. It's like an old couple that's fighting all the time and just don't speak to each other. There's no point of separating because they just don't care.
Immigrants think of themselves as natives from their own country before being Canadians.
I lived in Quebec for 13 years, Canada + Quebec is the only way that makes sense. The culture, the news, it's completely different than what I've experienced in Ontario. Hell, driving from Ottawa to Gatineau, it's instant. I'm always shocked by the number of art pieces on display throughout its parks. But then, Ottawa is pretty much a soulless town.
AlexMeloche
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I live (and work) in Laval (a suburb near Montréal, for those not familiar), and it's scary to see that almost half of the people who shop where I work don't even understand a word of French. There's a reason why people are protective about it.
I'm from Toronto and I liked the idea of having a French-oriented province in my country. It is interesting that there is a whole province out there that is so different from the rest of the country. It's like our own country within our country (we technically do[b/] refer to Quebec as "a nation within Canada").
I'd like to visit Quebec City and Montreal some time in the future.
I don't understand why people hate Quebec. Talk about prejudice just because they embrace their own traditions and speak French.
EDIT: I also do wish that French was pushed more in Canada. I don't know French, but it would have been nice if I was forced to learn it at an early age so that I could speak it now.
I'd like to visit Quebec City and Montreal some time in the future.
I don't understand why people hate Quebec. Talk about prejudice just because they embrace their own traditions and speak French.
EDIT: I also do wish that French was pushed more in Canada. I don't know French, but it would have been nice if I was forced to learn it at an early age so that I could speak it now.
Dr.Guru of Peru
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Insular culture and insular people.
But it makes for a good amusement park. Just don't stay very long.
But it makes for a good amusement park. Just don't stay very long.
Yes Ottawa may not be the best city to compare. The biggest cultural presence of that city is the sheer number of shawarma joints in it.
p_xavier
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A Shoppers Drug Mart on every corner!TM
Immigrants are less likely to have any nationalistic views on Quebec though. In fact, after the last referendum of 1995, a lot of Separatists were blaming the immigrants for their loss. Member of my family were basically discriminated for not being native French Quebecers during that time.
I find that surprising since the great majority of people in Laval speak French. I could understand if we were talking about the West Island, but Laval? Maybe you live in an anglophone area.
This has always bugged me. Damn you for being different, and protecting that 1.7% of North America that is French.
All the while, we pride ourselves with multiculturalism and import our culture wholesale from the United States.
The US invasion of 1775 is also an often ignored wrinkle in Québec history :
Québec just got the right to practice it's Catholic faith, and people were threatened with excommunication if they sided with the dirty Protestants. Plus we were just starting to get treats from our abusive empire, so better the devil you know, right?
Québec just got the right to practice it's Catholic faith, and people were threatened with excommunication if they sided with the dirty Protestants. Plus we were just starting to get treats from our abusive empire, so better the devil you know, right?
Quebec certainly does feel different, and it makes sense, as Quebecers speak a language different from the rest of the country, but it would be a shame for Canada to not include Quebec, as I think the unlikely joining of French with Scots/English/Irish and a whole bunch of other immigrants since then has made for a really interesting country.
I wish that Quebec made more of an effort to lead the conversation in Canada, as it feels that the province is pretty insular and just ignores the rest of Canada. I think Canada would be a better place if Canada was more like Quebec.
I wish that Quebec made more of an effort to lead the conversation in Canada, as it feels that the province is pretty insular and just ignores the rest of Canada. I think Canada would be a better place if Canada was more like Quebec.
I agree with this. I'm from Ontario, for the record.
I gotta say that one of my biggest regrets in elementary and high school was not embracing French as a language. It's honestly one of the biggest regrets in my entire life. Not only would it make travelling to -- and experiencing -- Quebec easier, it's also a massive plus on a resume here in Canada.
Guys I cant do fancy poutine. I think maybe it's cause I've had smoke's too often while stumbling around downtown drunk, it just makes me nauseous. Just give me some good ole' fashioned KFC poutine, throw a little ketchup and pepper on that bad boy, and Im good to go.
Oh also, Quebec seems okay, the cultural difference does have some issues for the country from time to time (french...) but eh, Montreal I hear is a good place to party, going for the first time next month.
Oh also, Quebec seems okay, the cultural difference does have some issues for the country from time to time (french...) but eh, Montreal I hear is a good place to party, going for the first time next month.
Extra Sauce
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Considering us Québécois waged war against Canadians back when it was New England versus Nouvelle France, then lost, then fought to preserve our rights which resulted in many of our Patriots being hung and some being exiled... I'd say we get along pretty fucking great.
For anyone feeling hatred on either side, I'd say visit the other side and you'll find we're all just humans looking for love in a strange multi-cultural land.
For anyone feeling hatred on either side, I'd say visit the other side and you'll find we're all just humans looking for love in a strange multi-cultural land.
That's because smoke's isn't really that good. They opened one in Montreal and everyone there is like "wtf, why are you here?"
To be fair, Calgary hates everyone. They get mad when any dollar leaves the province (rightfully so though, sometimes it feels like they pay for the province of Newfoundland). About as much as Quebec hates everyone.
Go to Quebec City when you're sober. It's like going to a miniature European country. Amazing cultural preservation and even better food. Beautiful women too.
Just like the rest of Canada, motherfuckers.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Never been to Quebec, but I plan to go one day on my dream cross-country road trip.
What I hate most about Quebec though... is all that damned French on all the games and movies I buy. What the fuck!? It's 'The Dark Knight' not fucking 'Le Chevallier Noire'. Fuck that.
Yes but if native quebecians want to preserve there culture and want to secede and have self determination, it's there right.
ShadowgeistX
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Calgary here too, it's mainly hate, with a touch of both massive indifference and 'I hear Montreal is pretty nice'
I'm essentially from BC and have never been to Quebec. I've always wanted to visit there, and think it's cool we have a place like that in our country.
That said, over here there's definitely a negative mentality about Quebec. Then again this is BC and BC seems to dislike the rest of Canada pretty hard.
From the perspective of students growing up and learning Canadian history in the place furthest from Quebec, no one ever really seemed sympathetic to Quebec and it's situation.
That said, over here there's definitely a negative mentality about Quebec. Then again this is BC and BC seems to dislike the rest of Canada pretty hard.
From the perspective of students growing up and learning Canadian history in the place furthest from Quebec, no one ever really seemed sympathetic to Quebec and it's situation.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Yup. Fuck Ontario.
Canada is divided in so many ways, people in alberta think people in BC are all asians , rich or old and that people in Saskatchewan are retarded, manitoba doesn't exist because it's never mentioned except in the statement "the only place with shittier weather then edmonton is Winnipeg" , ontario is , and repeat this with as Canadian an accent as you can muster "the center o' deh fooking universe eh". Nova scotia, new brunswick, newfoundland and PEI may as well be one place , it's where fort mcmurrey gets all their new employees from. Lastly, quebec on the whole by albertans seems to be hated , mostly because the average albertan is uneducated when it comes to any kind of canadian history, I believe alberta is the only province that passed provincial legislation keeping english as the only language despite that federally canada supports both and there's even french communities within the province.
This is just my 2nd hand experience having been an albertan for 29 years so far
We are basically the racist morons of the north.
This is just my 2nd hand experience having been an albertan for 29 years so far
We are basically the racist morons of the north.
This spin certainly isn't helping QC right now. I saw this shit and laughed. What a bullshit, sensationalist cover. It's offensive to think that the rest of English Canada will most likely see this and take it as 100% wholesale truth.
But hey, "Fuck today's youths and their iPhones," right?
Rogers Publishing, my friend.
Also note, Rogers Publishing gets government funding, likely because it's a staple in their pension plans.
This is actually true though
People to the West hate them because they feel like Ontario has an imbalance of power. Provinces to the East hate them because they feel they aren't represented. Honestly everyone is nice though, been around lots of places.
EDIT: Macleans is so full of shit lol.
Buddha Beam
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Screw Quebec. I really want to visit Nunavut. Too bad you can't drive there, though.
True. Quebec, based on all of my history lessons in school, has never really been of importance or been positioned as something that we should really embrace.
Shalashaska
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Not true last I checked myself.
As a Vancouverite, I have nothing against Quebec. They have Montreal at least. The rest of Canada as well as Quebec I just don't really care for too much. Anything East of BC is East to me and different. I share more in common in terms of thinking and way of life with someone from Seattle than I do someone from Calgary, Regina, Winnipeg, Toronto, Montreal, etc.
Nah, it only really applies to Victoria and Vancouver
but it applies hard
catching the bus here in Vic it's a common sight to see Death on his commute
Ontario has an imbalance of power because it has as many people as BC, AB, SK, MB, NB, NS, PE, NL and the territories combined.
60% of Canadians live in Quebec and Ontario.
Funny thing about that is that quebec is more hardcore about translations than france.
Quebec
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NotTheGuyYouKill
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Funny thing about that is that quebec is more hardcore about translations than france.
Quebec
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Cold Blood!? What the fuck?
No they don't. That's a really poor perception.
lunarworks
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Everyone I know likes Quebec.
We just think they have a massive sense of entitlement, and need to quit the drama.
We just think they have a massive sense of entitlement, and need to quit the drama.
Don't forget that stop signs in France say STOP and stop signs in Quebec say ARRETE
This is absolutely true.
Which is why I said they 'feel' like that. I have no personal issues with any province.
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