Dating-Age |OT3| Positivity, Confidence, and Not Being a "Nice" Guy

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How would I look like the bad guy? I don't want to get back at her. She couldn't do any more to hurt me than she already has. I was just going to say that "I know what you did behind my back last fall", or something like that. Nothing she's going to say or do will make it hurt more than it has.

You guys seriously wouldn't say you knew if you had the chance? Thats a long and fucked up thing to do to someone to NOT say that you at least know.

So another thing, she's trying to keep her image up, a week after our break up she put a new picture up and some guy jokingly said it looked slutty and she erased their convo on the pic.

Actually I'm going to see if she brings it up first. I doubt it though.

Just trust us. It will cause drama. And accusing a girl of doing dirty shit from hearsay will make you look bad. Just take your money and run.
 
Yeah, don't do it, Branson. Just let the knowledge of her indiscretions be enough for you. Confronting her will only lead to wanting to know more and more, and that thought process will consume you.
 
Well. Fuck. I was kind of excited to let her know that I know. Ugh. You guys are the only ones that are saying not to lol.

Plus I know detailed descriptions of what happened. My mind can't get more clouded than it has with this shit.
 
Well. Fuck. I was kind of excited to let her know that I know. Ugh. You guys are the only ones that are saying not to lol.

You can if you want, but man, I really do advise to fuck that shit and keep it to yourself. I still have never told my first ex that I knew she fucked around (we hang out here and there).
 
Well. Fuck. I was kind of excited to let her know that I know. Ugh. You guys are the only ones that are saying not to lol.

Plus I know detailed descriptions of what happened. My mind can't get more clouded than it has with this shit.

Give her a piece of your mind, get it off your chest and make her feel like an even more piece of shit. She hurt you bad, man.
 
Well. Fuck. I was kind of excited to let her know that I know. Ugh. You guys are the only ones that are saying not to lol.

Plus I know detailed descriptions of what happened. My mind can't get more clouded than it has with this shit.

Honestly what you do is up to you. I probably would decide to tell her if I was in your shoes, but from the armchair where I am now it seems like a pointless comment.
 
I went on my first date today! :O met him on OKC haha. It was fun.

Whether it goes any further than that or not...at least I won't die having never been on a date before. Woo.
Good to hear Leeness! Let us know how it all goes.

Off-topic but it pisses me how my friend is sometimes. We got in an argument earlier at the pub over art (coincidentally), and he always talks over me as if I'm wrong all the time with anything. He talks as if he knows what he's on about, even if he doesn't.

The amount of bullshit he spouts is unbelievable, and it really doesn't matter what we're on about. He always goes on about how he doesn't know anyone, and how difficult things are for him. When in reality he's the type of guy who just has people constantly come up to him, and here I am just invisible all the time. I'm even putting myself out there more (I've got a more positive mindset now, believe it or not), but the amount of interest people take in me is small.

Whether or not he was joking, he was saying how much he wants female company, and was saying it as if I should feel sorry for him. But considering he's been out with a shitload of girls before, and I haven't, his attitude pisses me off. Even today he was telling me how he went out with some girl yesterday with a few other mates (who I also know), and yet he didn't invite me. Considering I'm good friends with him (despite me talking shit about him), it really fucking hurts.

Anyway, no idea why I'm posting this here, but I just needed to get that out of my system.

Sorry dude, but that doesnt sound like a good friend - or friend at all - to me, more like a parasite if anything. Hes just useing you to dump emotional waste and sexual frustration.

Even if you confronted him about it, it'd be kinda too late since the roles in your disrepectful friendship have been set. But I'd urge you to do something about it now than later.

Hes probably one of the negative influences dragging you down. I'd stop getting aquainted with him and such people. They dont deserve the attention.

That's not a friend, he's a vampire in your life and you need to proverbially stake him in the heart and get rid of him.

What this man says x1000. Fuck this "friend" of yours, he's using you. Cease hanging out, do things socially without him, and work on your game. Shed that negative weight.
I think the alcohol influenced the post a bit.

He has been a good friend to me in a lot of ways, but it's just the little things bugged me a lot the other night.

Everytime we go out I'm always second to him, I'm almost invisible whilst he's the one who gets the attention all the time. This isn't entirely his fault, it's just the way he is with people I guess.

We might be going out again tonight (he invited me out), but I'm going to make sure I'm not how I usually am around him. I've just got to call him out on the times he's spouting bullshit, and also stand my ground a bit more as a person.

I must say as a person the past week or so I've gotten a lot more confident with myself, and I'm certainly not putting myself down as much as I used to. I'm a cool dude, I'm talented, I have a lot to offer, and I shouldn't shy away all the time like I usually do.

Anyway, sorry for bringing in this into this thread.
 
Hmm. The more I think about it the more it doesn't seem worth the trouble to tell her. On one hand I just can't let her think she got away with it but otherwise she isn't worth it. Ugh. Ii don't know.
 
Just stop going to parties like that. You can meet better women on campus daily, and you know they're going to be somewhat smarter than the average bar hopper.

I'm assuming you're a student here, but even if you're not, there's more "intellectual" ways to meet women. Try taking classes, like yoga, cooking, hell even book clubs. It may not get you the dream woman but it'll at least give you more opportunities.

Mate, on campus is all well and good but I'm not a student any more, finished my last exam in my final year and now have gone back to my hometown and living at home with family.

Plus the whole "classes" thing is a very American thing, doesn't really happen here. We're a drink and drugs culture, only way to meet birds is down the pub or in clubs.

Only way I met my ex is because I was living on campus 2 years ago and we just connected. God damn it.
 
Good to hear Leeness! Let us know how it all goes.

I think the alcohol influenced the post a bit.

He has been a good friend to me in a lot of ways, but it's just the little things bugged me a lot the other night.

Everytime we go out I'm always second to him, I'm almost invisible whilst he's the one who gets the attention all the time. This isn't entirely his fault, it's just the way he is with people I guess.

We might be going out again tonight (he invited me out), but I'm going to make sure I'm not how I usually am around him. I've just got to call him out on the times he's spouting bullshit, and also stand my ground a bit more as a person.

I must say as a person the past week or so I've gotten a lot more confident with myself, and I'm certainly not putting myself down as much as I used to. I'm a cool dude, I'm talented, I have a lot to offer, and I shouldn't shy away all the time like I usually do.

Anyway, sorry for bringing in this into this thread.


Hey - If I can come with my opinion on this, I would like to, because I was given a great advice once, that helped me not judge people so much (which has been a really big problem for me in the past). It goes something like this;


"Just because you don't like something about someone, it does not make them a bad person"

The person who told me this meant it in a way (I think) that I should not feel disappointed when people around me didn't always do what I expected or wanted them to do.
I too have a friend, who becomes egotistical and narcissistic when it comes to women. He too is a lady killer, yet he is very unstable and can't handle rejection. So for someone, who must have slept with over 50 chicks. Perhaps above 100, and I am not joking. How dare he act all psycho when he eventually is faced against a woman who gets pumped'and them dumps his ass?


I think we can find similarities in other things -

Even though Billionaires have tons money, they still get furious when they lose money even though they have much less reason to be mad than someone who is poor.
Same thing goes for top athletes. There was big talks about an athelete who killed himself over coming second in a world championship. He was the second best in the entire world, so he killed himself. This is not intelligent behavior, but we see this pattern everywhere.


I am saying that you should be reactive against your friend. But even if your friend has a poor trade, it doesn't mean you need to reject him or something. You can choose to accept that as a part of him, if you can live with it. Maybe you have knowledge now about it. Maybe you just don't hang out with him in these sorts of social venues, but instead in places were socializing and egostroking is not on the bender. Your friends can have character flaws. That doesn't make them bad people, and I think we expect too much of a friendship if we don't allow them to be bad at some things.

Your friend does not sound like a emphatic wing man. If you can't live with it, or your standards are high, then go ahead give him hell, or ignore him, or do the thing that will spike change.

I just wanted to tell you this because it allowed me to change my own perspective on my friends perspective. It helped me realize that just because I live up to my own standards, I can't expect others to live up to them.

It's like the advice that was told to combine over and over again - If you open the door for someone expecting a "thank you", then you are opening it for the wrong reasons. Open the door, and do the right thing because you want to. Don't be mad or sad that the other person is not following your example. We can't expect that, but our egos tell us that we can't.


It's why you can't follow the mantra "treat others like you want to be treated yourself". The intent is sound and it means well, but think about it! People are different. stereotypes and generalizations can only take you so far. Whatever you do, or whatever you think is right, will piss other people off.
 
Wow, so she's been really smiley in her convos with me on Draw Something. She might be trying to trap me. Hmmm. I'm interested in how she's going to react around me.
 
Hmm. The more I think about it the more it doesn't seem worth the trouble to tell her. On one hand I just can't let her think she got away with it but otherwise she isn't worth it. Ugh. Ii don't know.

If she has any shred of moral fiber left in her, the guilt of not telling you and living with that secret will fester and cause her more suffering than hearing you say that you know.
 
why bother putting thought into it? its over. you have nothing to gain by going down this road. do something fun, jerk off or talk to girls. live and let live.
 
Bolded: You would be correct. I know some people out there that operate literally after that book. Especially danish girls in this case, now that I know that you and I are from Denmark, Walrus, so yes on our own cultural level especially in Copenhagen a large percentage of girls are very aware of "The Game".

Even some celebrities have been name dropping that shit on danish TV Walrus, like Ciano and Sidney Lee. I know a chick that slept with the later.

Its fine to push and pull, but negging is often a risky gamble. I know one guy that down right negs girls with every sentence that comes out of his mouth. Needless to say he has been very far from succesfull. Theres only so much negativity a girl can tolerate. He repels women like a shit.

A little side-track but... truth be told, I feel ashamed and disgusted at the same time for what Im about to say, but recently I found out that the previously above mentioned guy and I 'shared' the same girl on two individual ocassions. The reason I feel terrible about myself is, because after I slept with her I found out she has some kind of mental condition that just makes it hard for her to refuse anything (She had some neurological surgery to remove a tumor. Which kinda damaged her) Theres nothing that would indicate/detect her being mentally impaired/brain damaged in any way. She looks completely normal, attractive on the outside and speaks normally.

That fact made me guilt trip. I felt/feel bad, terrible and sympathise for her, while on the other side, that douche I mentioned above bragged/brags about it, with no empathy and still considers it a 'win'/'score' despite that he is aware of her condition. Fucking sickens me.

Thats why I hate to be associated with regular players or whatever. I dont take shit from those people. I wouldnt even call that guy a player, but he wants to be associated with them.

Ahem, anyway... my approach is pretty laid back. But Im more natural in my approach too. Most of the time girls/women come up to me, unless some retarded aquaintance of mine is sticking to me. Im more like a "half asshole" rather than a whole one.

Theres alot of impatient, inexperienced and immature guys out there though (in Copenhagen). Kind of fun to watch them some times.

To answer your question: Yes, it works. But everyone has their style or approach. And it is a possible way to meet a viable candidate.

I enjoy reading your posts, because your approach seems more genuine. No matter how much I see the PUA's I find it unnatural. I would not be comfortable with someone (man or woman) coming up to me and asking what my favorite color is. That would be weird, because I don't see it as a socially good starting point.


How exactly are you making girls come over to you?



I don't understand it. I don't think I am unattractive(?). I know I am tall, so maybe that makes people angry, but I only get compliments from men. A very drunk man told me I looked like Clive Owen which I think is crazy and can't be true, and said guy, was so drunk he could barely walk.
So guys I can talk too about anything, and no harm done, but women seems afraid of me, which is weird.

I only stick around places were I am genuinely enjoying myself.




You think that girls don't approach you, if you have a friend guy standing next to you?
 
Hmm. The more I think about it the more it doesn't seem worth the trouble to tell her. On one hand I just can't let her think she got away with it but otherwise she isn't worth it. Ugh. Ii don't know.
She did get away with it. Telling her you know is just for your own piece of mind because I guess you knowing that she knows you know is important to you for some reason. It comes off as vindictive and spiteful.

I know what you're feeling when I put myself in that sort of emotional frame of mind, and I know it's eating away at you, but it really is pointless to talk about.
 
I enjoy reading your posts, because your approach seems more genuine. No matter how much I see the PUA's I find it unnatural. I would not be comfortable with someone (man or woman) coming up to me and asking what my favorite color is. That would be weird, because I don't see it as a socially good starting point.

You have been in a bar or club before, right? Practically every word uttered by anyone there is far dumber than 'what's your favorite color?'. If I got asked that I'd be relieved and perceive the asker as a comparably intelligent and thoughtful person.
 
Alright guys, thanks, Ive decided I'm not going to tell her I know. I know, and thats all that matters. I am nervous as fuck though to see her again. Heeeerree we gooo.

So like, my friend just asked me if I was going to tell her. I said no. He said "Damn, and she gets away with all of it". Fuuuuck.
 
So like, my friend just asked me if I was going to tell her. I said no. He said "Damn, and she gets away with all of it". Fuuuuck.
But that's the thing, she already has gotten away with it. All telling her does is say "I know that you know you did a bad thing"
 
But that's the thing, she already has gotten away with it. All telling her does is say "I know that you know you did a bad thing"

Yeah, I know. She hasn't texted me back and its been about an hour. She said she would give it to me today. Its starting to piss me off.

And he just sent me a really pissed off text saying to not ask for his advice if I'm not going to take it lol.
 
Yeah, I know. She hasn't texted me back and its been about an hour. She said she would give it to me today. Its starting to piss me off.

And he just sent me a really pissed off text saying to not ask for his advice if I'm not going to take it lol.
Count me in on the don't confront her train.

Trust us, Branson. You think it's a good idea right now, but if you were to confront her, it'd just add a whole extra layer of drama to your life that you just don't need. Sure, you might not ever get that definitive closure that you're looking for on the situation, but you're also not going to get the anger, bitterness and (most likely) regret that comes with it. Pick your poison, I guess, but I'd strongly advise against a confrontation.
 
Yeah, I know. She hasn't texted me back and its been about an hour. She said she would give it to me today. Its starting to piss me off.

And he just sent me a really pissed off text saying to not ask for his advice if I'm not going to take it lol.

I'd tell her, remain calm while telling her, then cut her off, but... your decision.
 
I'm in such a depressed slump. It sucks not having any of my college friends around to do stuff with. Makes everything lonely as hell.

I hate not being able to go bars or do anything to really meet people. There's really not much to do for someone my age when college's out. Suggestion on possible place to check out?

Anyway, enough of my negativity injection to the thread.

Carry on.
 
Alright guys, I finally recently took a new picture of myself and I decided to give my profile an overhaul.

What do you think?

My self-summary
I'm always dreamin' of the good life, my island in the sun. Sometimes I feel like love is the answer to all my problems, but other times, I feel like I'm just losing my mind.

My brain is filled with possibilities, but I ain't got much time to pan most of them out. On the good days, I can't stop partying, but on the bad ones, it's a cold dark world. I feel like Buddy Holly sometimes, high up above looking down and thinking why bother? I can't take control of anything, I'm a trouble maker stuck in a perpetual pink triangle of memories. I just want someone to hold me, the good life, living it up in beverly hills.

I can love, I swear it's true. It doesn't matter if I'm hanging out in the mall or in the garage, I'll always keep fishin' for the perfect situation.

My name is Jonas. And I'm the greatest man that ever lived.

What I’m doing with my life
Aspiring to be more creative and succeeding part of the time while trying to avoid the artistic pothole that is perfectionism.

My academic life is on the near precipice of completion and while part of me is scared witless at the prospect of actually having to become a real life adult in the coming months, the other part is overjoyed at finally closing that one chapter of my life that involved far too many late nights and panic attacks.

I feel like I'm on the verge of deciding what to do in my near future, and while the prospects are exactly crystal clear, I'm pretty confident that whatever I end up doing, whether its in private industry or public service, I'll likely do just fine.

Other than that, I guess right now I'm just doing what ever other 23 year old does at this point in their life, relax and enjoy the moment while it lasts. My back won't be this spry forever!

I’m really good at
In my mind, I'm really fantastic at making people laugh or amused. I'm charming to some and bitterly boring to others. Granted this probably makes me sound like every other Jane and Joe out there but I swear the charm seeps through more often than it doesn't!

Outside of that circle, my talents are spread a bit more evenly across a wide assortment of delightful bullet-points such as:

- Guitar and Songwriting
- Cooking
- Conversationalizing
- Riting
- Listening to other people's problems
- Listening to my own problems
- Listening to Tim Thomas's really messed up problems
- Appreciating a good tall pint of beer
- Making bullet-point lists

I also really enjoy making subtle and non too subtle references at things.

So many things.

The first things people usually notice about me
Blue hair. It absolutely has to be the blue hair right now. I've had children yell at me for my blue hair. Positively though. Because children are sometimes rad.

Favorite books, movies, shows, music, and food
Favorite Movies:

Scott Pilgrim Vs The World, Gattaca, South Park: Bigger, Longer and Uncut, Mary Poppins, Star Trek, Wall-E, Anchorman, Ferris Bueller's Day Off, and many many more.

Favorite Shows:

Everything on the Food Network, Life, Community, Stargate, Doctor Who, Arrested Development, Conan, The Daily Show, Scrubs.

Favorite Music:

Arcade Fire, Green Day, Alkaline Trio, Rise Against, The Strokes, Tokyo Police Club, The Gaslight Anthem, The Loved Ones, Rancid, We Are Scientists, Our Lady Peace, The Postal Service, Death Cab for Cutie, Weezer, Pinhead Gunpowder, The Beatles, Ben Folds, Regina Spektor, The Hives, Flogging Molly, , Bowling for Soup, Ok Go, Reel Big Fish, Radiohead

I spend a lot of time thinking about
Why someone thought Fluff was a good idea.

On a typical Friday night I am
Working on an assignment, enjoying some sort of activity at home, or having a drink at one of my favourite pubs with friends.

Who am I kidding? I'm never working on an assignment on Fridays.

The most private thing I’m willing to admit
I think Ted Danson is incredibly awesome.

You should message me if
If you want me to charm another pair of pants onto you.
 
2 months ago I met a girl who was from another city. Went out drinking, had a good time but I wasn't forward enough and nothing happened. I'm pretty sure she was looking to hook up thinking back but oh well.

Now, I texted today her saying I'll be in her city for the weekend and did she want to meet up. I was going to try and be forward this time and actually get somewhere. The thing is, she said yes but said "We can meet for drinks on friday as mates". Nothing too subtle about that, huh? Should I go for broke and be very upfront in a text to her saying something like I was looking for more than just mates if we met up or meet up and try and break the FZ in person(is there any point at this stage)?
 
2 months ago I met a girl who was from another city. Went out drinking, had a good time but I wasn't forward enough and nothing happened. I'm pretty sure she was looking to hook up thinking back but oh well.

Now, I texted today her saying I'll be in her city for the weekend and did she want to meet up. I was going to try and be forward this time and actually get somewhere. The thing is, she said yes but said "We can meet for drinks on friday as mates". Nothing too subtle about that, huh? Should I go for broke and be very upfront in a text to her saying something like I was looking for more than just mates if we met up or meet up and try and break the FZ in person(is there any point at this stage)?

I think she was being very upfront herself. Have fun, maybe it will go somewhere if its in the cards, but if you voice your intentions now, she may bail.
 
I think she was being very upfront herself. Have fun, maybe it will go somewhere if its in the cards, but if you voice your intentions now, she may bail.

But is there even any point meeting if she said that? I don't want to go knowing I'm dead in the friendzone. That isn't fun, I'd be skipping my real friends to be seeing her. Shouldn't I make my intentions clear and if she still wants to meet then cool, if she says no way well then it was never going to work anyway?
 
But is there even any point meeting if she said that? I don't want to go knowing I'm dead in the friendzone. That isn't fun, I'd be skipping my real friends to be seeing her. Shouldn't I make my intentions clear and if she still wants to meet then cool, if she says no way well then it was never going to work anyway?
You're a guy from out of town that she met two months ago and you're calling her cause you're in town for the weekend. There's no prospect of a relationship for her here, just 'slut shame'. Doesn't mean that it couldn't have worked under normal circumstances. Don't miss time with your friends for her, invite her to hang out with the group if you still wanna gauge where she's at.
 
You're a guy from out of town that she met two months ago and you're calling her cause you're in town for the weekend. There's no prospect of a relationship for her here, just 'slut shame'. Doesn't mean that it couldn't have worked under normal circumstances. Don't miss time with your friends for her, invite her to hang out with the group if you still wanna gauge where she's at.

It's hooking up, not a relationship but she was the one that set the first meeting up in my city and she sure wasn't after a relationship. I think she was wanting to hook up and I wasn't forward enough originally. I wouldn't call her a slut but from what I found out she's...experienced.
 
Well. Fuck. I was kind of excited to let her know that I know. Ugh. You guys are the only ones that are saying not to lol.

Plus I know detailed descriptions of what happened. My mind can't get more clouded than it has with this shit.

I think it would feel like a weight off your chest telling her, if its not too late. You don't want to look back and wish you had.
 
Alright guys, I finally recently took a new picture of myself and I decided to give my profile an overhaul.

What do you think?

I'd be afraid of putting love there, as it might scare off too many people. Of course, if you're looking for a romantic it's not terrible to have on there.

There is an undercurrent of self-deprecation - is that something you want to convey? It doesn't jive with the "I'm the greatest man that ever lived", and so you seem mixed up.

"Just doing what every other 23 year old is..." - you should strive to be different. You need to stand out to get noticed. Don't tell people how you're the same, they'll assume that for you.

The "I'm good at making bullet point lists" is a bit trite.

Typo: prospects aren't exactly clear

A general point: show, don't tell, when possible. Don't tell them you're good at making people laugh, just make them laugh.
 
I'm in such a depressed slump. It sucks not having any of my college friends around to do stuff with. Makes everything lonely as hell.

I hate not being able to go bars or do anything to really meet people. There's really not much to do for someone my age when college's out. Suggestion on possible place to check out?

Anyway, enough of my negativity injection to the thread.

Carry on.
I would suggest a temporary mmorpg to pass the time. U may even be able to meet up with a clan member depending on where u live
 
Alright guys, I finally recently took a new picture of myself and I decided to give my profile an overhaul.

What do you think?

Switch the word "rad" with "groovy." Because groovy is the best word in the world.

I also had blue hair, children were in love with it. It felt awesome. Now, I'm rocking the auburn.
 
Yeah guys, she never responded to my text last night. Who knows why. I just said "I'm off, let's meet at this place". Ugh. I just want this over with.

I mean, I don't even enjoy my hobbies anymore like playing and being interested in gaming and the whole culture around it. I just work and try to hang out with people. I'm not even excited for E3. And that's weird for me. It really really sucks to buy something like diablo 3 and play it for like an hour a day and stop after 3 total because your mind just hates you.

I'm never getting in a relationship again. :/.
 
Yeah guys, she never responded to my text last night. Who knows why. I just said "I'm off, let's meet at this place". Ugh. I just want this over with.

I mean, I don't even enjoy my hobbies anymore like playing and being interested in gaming and the whole culture around it. I just work and try to hang out with people. I'm not even excited for E3. And that's weird for me. It really really sucks to buy something like diablo 3 and play it for like an hour a day and stop after 3 total because your mind just hates you.

I'm never getting in a relationship again. :/.

Give it time man and you will find someone else. This 5 day trip I have been doing in Prague was just what I needed to get my mind at ease from my ex and the pyschological pain I've had left main side mentally. I've met two ladies on two separate nights and had fun in my apartment for the night life and been going everywhere in the day exploring. It's fantastic and I would reccomend to people here to just go on holiday, either by yourself or with a pal (I went alone) and forget about the past and move on for the future with a new state of mind. It's done me wonders.
 
So what do you do if there's a girl you're interested in sitting next to you at the bus stop or on a bench in campus hall? What would be a good thing to say to her?
 
Yeah guys, she never responded to my text last night. Who knows why. I just said "I'm off, let's meet at this place". Ugh. I just want this over with.

I mean, I don't even enjoy my hobbies anymore like playing and being interested in gaming and the whole culture around it. I just work and try to hang out with people. I'm not even excited for E3. And that's weird for me. It really really sucks to buy something like diablo 3 and play it for like an hour a day and stop after 3 total because your mind just hates you.

I'm never getting in a relationship again. :/.

You know, you're probably not seeing that money for a good long time.
 
Is it better for me to get a license before I get into a relationship? Can I get into a relationship while working on getting my license. Also, there is this nice girl at work who is single but won't date. What can I say to convince her?
 
You know, you're probably not seeing that money for a good long time.

Yeah. Why respond to me if she's not going to follow through? I have literally never met someone who is as terrible of a person as she is. I don't think she knows I could take her to small claims court over this
 
Yeah. Why respond to me if she's not going to follow through? I have literally never met someone who is as terrible of a person as she is. I don't think she knows I could take her to small claims court over this

If you don't get paid in a month or two, go for it.
 
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