Wii U Pro Controller announced - X360pad design, no screen, "for multiplatform games"
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rbanke
Member
I'd like someone to explain why also. People always seem to say that the asymmetrical layout is better for shooters, but I've never seen a reason why this is. And why is the left stick on top good but right on top isn't? Genuinely interested in the reasoning behind this.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Now that's funny.
As for the pad, I'm baffled by the shitty button placement. My thumb reaches UP not down for the buttons.
Why, can't a Wii U controller do everything a regular one can?
It's the exact same configuration as the Gamepad, only minus the screen. It'll get support by default.
If anything, it just means that games with a heavy emphasis on local multiplayer (like fighters, for example) won't make extensive use of the screen. But most of those types of games wouldn't have made extensive use of the screen anyway.
You can bet that any third party game that's not designed around the GamePad will support this.
Orayn, you just always want a new Souls game
It's the human condition.
Not for most 3D games. It really depends on what type of game it is though.
I'd love a first party to attempt a controller with customizable stick locations.
Ah so that was the full quote, gives everyone an option at least. I know there were gaffers who weren't particularly interested in using the pad, at least not for everything. Plus this will mean we have good controllers for multiplayer instead of some bootleg shit with old Wii motes and old Classic Controllers.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
hopefully WiiU get super street fighter IV ultimate arcade edition as launch Im tired of 360 dpad 
bgassassin
Member
GC controller -> Xbox 360 controller -> Wii U Pro
I can give you one reason why they can't be digital: GCN BC. You need analog triggers for those games.
It's just the same damn controller but without the screen in the middle. The only thing you need to "support" is the ability to not play with the screen there, and they'll have to do that for streaming gameplay to the screen instead of the TV anyway.
Have they lost their honor? what?
NYR
Member
Not true since you clicked this thread to read it and then took the time to post in it.
We would have had that with just the GamePad.
BlazingDarkness
Member
Um, that was exactly my point
It allows third parties to put their stuff on the Wii U without investing any extra effort to using the Wii U screen, which would probably otherwise turn some developers off
Hot Coldman
Banned
Go back to System Wars, please.
mugurumakensei
Member
I'm gonna take it you are left-handed. The first thing I thought when looking at it was "this symmetrical layout is perfect for lefties".
I Stalk Alone
Member
How is it a copy if you are wanting to change it to be the xbox 360 controller? ALso it is the evolution o fthe controller and there are only three possible stick layouts for that kind of controller.
The gamecube layout (same as xbox 360 layout)
The PS2 layout (Classic Controller Pro Layout)
The Wii U layout
and guess what nintendo has not tried yet? that's right the new one....
I don't understand if people are actually makiung this a real issue because of fanboyism or what.
They already have the
Wii Motion+ Nunchuck
WiiU Gamepad
Wii COntroller Pro
These pretty muich cover all the modern controller designs bar the mouse and keyboard (not talking about proprietry controllers) so people should be happy about this. What I would be happy about if the controller has gyro's and rumble and compass.
3rd parties don't need to do anything to "support" it, other than not use the touchscreen for any essential purpose. Which they will be happy not to have to do, if they are working on a multiplatform game.
So they question remains, what makes Nintendo think people will buy multiplatform games on WiiU if they offers no meaningful control features or graphical enhancements?
The best post-Saturn dpad is actually on the Vita. I want more people to copy that.
Nah. They just reclaimed what was originally theirs in the first place. Except for the clickable sticks - those are Sony's doing, IIRC.
To Far Away Times
Member
The right stick on top is interesting. At first it looks kinda dumb. But think about it. The D pad and face buttons are lined up, which is really nice for 2D games. And since face buttons are only used occasionally in dual analog games, maybe the the right stick on top will end up being really comfortable. I doubt you would be switching between the right analog stick and face buttons all the time.
We've come full circle. Nintendo gets a pass or two if they rip off someone else's controller. =P
We've come full circle. Nintendo gets a pass or two if they rip off someone else's controller. =P
Rebel Leader
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I don't know how much you know about Nintendo-GAF culture (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are't really huge parts of it.
Future PhaZe
Member
Wii-U better launch at a cheap price...really uninterested in buying underpowered hardware for 200+ in 2012. The charm of motion with the Wii made it worth it but the tablet idea is underwhelming imo...
Nintendo would have to rip off a whole lot more for other companies to be able to call it even. Nintendo have been stolen off for years.
Everyone who's used the GamePad has said otherwise.
Hot Coldman
Banned
:lol Well done.
Isn't the whole purpose of a classic controller to be like other standard controllers?
toddhunter
Member
Remember the Microsoft 'tablet app' that was rumoured a few days ago? It now makes more sense.
It lets them replicate all the Wii U's tablet features when played with the 'hardcore' controller. (Xbox controller + ipad + app). Then the only real benefit you get from the Wii U is having the buttons on the tablets, which very few games will probably use, because there is now a better controller available (outside of 1st party).
Nintendo's offering could still be slick enough to win the day, but Microsoft are clearly positioning to compete. It also makes it less likely we will see the next xbox any time soon (looks like an interim measure).
It lets them replicate all the Wii U's tablet features when played with the 'hardcore' controller. (Xbox controller + ipad + app). Then the only real benefit you get from the Wii U is having the buttons on the tablets, which very few games will probably use, because there is now a better controller available (outside of 1st party).
Nintendo's offering could still be slick enough to win the day, but Microsoft are clearly positioning to compete. It also makes it less likely we will see the next xbox any time soon (looks like an interim measure).
Dreams-Visions
Member
yea, it's unusually great.
No idea about Vita's dpad, never used it, but at least Nintendo's CCPro's dpad is a million times better than that 360 dpad. And this new one Wii U Pro looks to be using the same one, so it's gonna be good.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Yeah if Nintendo was going to rip a layout they should have ripped the Vita's design for their regular controller (with extra shoulder buttons).
DimmuBurgerKing
Member
Nintendo just shot themselves in the foot?
Oh boy, I hope I don't have to hear this argument now.
KittenMaster
Member
They put the analog sticks in the best possible place. I don't see how people think that's less comfortable for games that only use face buttons for secondary actions.
Just use a different controller for games where you need a D-Pad & face buttons for the majority of the tasks.
Just use a different controller for games where you need a D-Pad & face buttons for the majority of the tasks.
Is it really that baffling that people hold GC as the best controller? It's been an extremely popular opinion in the past and I'm sure it still is.
Not at all arguing, I support the influence and "stealing" of ideas for an overall better design across companies. (wow that sentence was a mouthful lol)
Uno Venova
Banned
But didn't he say it won't be as comfortable during 'long hardcore play sessions'
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
looks like a dream for fighters.
Im yet to really try one. Foolishly enough both times I used a Vita I barely paid attention to it. Super glad to keep hearing this though since the launch PSP one was awful.
This Nintendo d-pad already looks good from the screenshots. Im guessing DSi XL style clicky goodness.