It does. I'm glad Nintendo is realizing the reality of the gaming world and how resistant people are to motion crap.
Wii U Pro Controller announced - X360pad design, no screen, "for multiplatform games"
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It does. I'm glad Nintendo is realizing the reality of the gaming world and how resistant people are to motion crap.
Alex
Member
It does with the Wii remote, to me. Hate the button placement, hate the movement, hate the general feel of it. It's more accurate, but there's precious little on the Wii that actually demands any accuracy anyway.
If I'm going to slum it without a mouse, I'd rather just take the analog controller, myself. There should be options though, that's something that'd be nice to see them really push with their software development. I hate the Wii remote and to me not having to use one ever again is the best part of the new console, but some people do like it and controls are such a basic and divisive option that I dont see why it wouldnt be something you could support for everyone.
Whenever fans or developers or anyone tries to rattle off about how control options and setups or etc are locked or don't ship with x because of developer vision I roll my eyes and throw it on my bargin bin list to buy when it's seven dollars and covered in cobwebs
Officerrob
Banned
As did tons of other people with all the other shitty controllers that have been released.
Third parties agree that the 360 controller is the pinnacle of gaming controllers, and they are apparently doing everything they can to bring in the third parties.
If Nintendo had their way, we'd probably still have N64 controllers. That was the last Nintendo controller to not really be a response to what the competition was up to.
You act like there's never been a crappy controller before.
I was responding to this
"It allows third parties to put their stuff on the Wii U without investing any extra effort to using the Wii U screen, which would probably otherwise turn some developers off"
If you are afraid of making games for the WiiU because of extra effort (money, time etc.) how would a peripheral that does not come with the console (thus won't be a guaranteed device available and few will have it) be an attractive prospect?
Maybe I'm too confident, but there is no way a game will exist that does not work with the included WiiU pad controller, but does exclusively for the Pro. Why? Because the pad controller has every button that this Pro controller has, and Nintendo won't require you to do any work with the screen that isn't already included in the simple SDK framework.
SuicidalSteve
Member
Positions of the face buttons from dpad to the letters remind me of the snes days 
SolarPowered
Member
hmm....
Button quality:
DS3=Wii U Pro=360(stalemate, DS3 buttons are a bit flat)
Button placement:
360>DS3>Wii U Pro
Analog/pad placement:
360>Wii U Pro>DS3
Solution:
Make DS3 analogs less concave like CC Pro and space them out like aforementioned pad. Increase handle length. Looks like Wii U Pro and 360 pad with analogs on bottom.
Improve D-pad on 360 controller, use internal battery like Wii U Pro/DS3 and make analogs sturdier(they become loose pretty quick). Bring buttons a bit closer together.
Wii U Pro could use digital triggers. I guess they can't improve on the button placement without incurring the wrath of MS lawyers. Maybe increase handle lengths by an inch and the grip will work with fighters and non shooting games.
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
Going between this and the 360 controller is going to be so confusing.
POWERSPHERE
Member
Should be tether free and usable on my Mac as my new gaming controller. Sign me up.
And let everyone rip each other off if it makes the ultimate standard controller. They invented the modern controller after all
And let everyone rip each other off if it makes the ultimate standard controller. They invented the modern controller after all
Certainly its very similar, but there's nothing they can or would do about it. There's plenty of third party controllers out there for PC that are full on bootleg versions of the 360/PS3 controller.
Smiles and Cries
Member
I think this needs to be a pack-in they do want the Core
the have a black console too so good start
the have a black console too so good start
Again - they have a console with a differentiating, maybe even revolutionary control device, and again it's probably not the preferred device for some of the best games on the system.
That's why the Wii never reached its full potential in my opinion. It might have been stupid to have forced full Wiimote controls (not held sideways as a regular controller) on every single game, but at least it would have demonstrated that they have a bold, clear vision of what they want to do with their console.
That's why the Wii never reached its full potential in my opinion. It might have been stupid to have forced full Wiimote controls (not held sideways as a regular controller) on every single game, but at least it would have demonstrated that they have a bold, clear vision of what they want to do with their console.
Well, I have hope for the console, so I still enter the threads to see if they'll convince me to buy one. The controller, while nice (aside the problems with the placements of the buttons/right D-Pad), isn't sufficient. The concept of the console isn't buying me.
Is that sattisfatory for you?
It looks exactly like the 360 controller. Is the 360 uncomfortable?
I'm talking about the button position. We know how the shape feels.
EatinOlives
Member
Er, can anyone tell me where the excitement for this is coming from? It's just a generic 360 pad clone, which is oddly uncharacteristic of Nintendo given the fans continuously trumpeting how everyone "copies Nintendo" all the time.
not to mention the A/B X/Y issue.
QueenOfThorns
Member
For me, it's the better d-pad that really sells it. It will probably have a much better deadzone too. Every 360 controller I've used eventually has problems with it where the character will keep moving even when you release the sticks.
Freezie KO
Banned
My preference: Upgraded Wiimote with more buttons. Possibly adding an analog stick to the Wiimote if they can do it comfortably. Wiimote + nunchuk is primary method of control. CCPro for legacy consoles and lazy developers. Simplicity and advancement of what they did with the great Wiimote.
Preference if they had to do this silly tablet thing: Multiple Wii U Gamepads work on a console. They're cheap enough to get multiples for multiplayer. Wiimote+nunchuk is secondary controller. If Wii U Gamepads are too expensive, once again, CCPro is for multiplayer, legacy, and lazy developers.
What Nintendo Did: Wii U Gamepad is primary controller, but may not allow multiples (because of tech or cost). Wii U Pro Pad for mulitplayer and lazy devs and possible confirmation that the Wii U Pad is uncomfortable for long play sessions. Wiimote + nunchuk is tertiary controller, likely unsupported by most. CCPro supported? Maybe? It's just adding an extra controller and taking away the idea that everyone could get a screen in multiplayer.
They're doing all this to bend over for third-parties that may drop them at the first taste of UE4.
shinobi602
Member
Love to agree with you this time.
Complete pipe dream.
1. Completely different control setup that wouldn't work with Skyward Sword natively/easily, especially given it was one of the few attempts to seriously do something with the Motion Plus that couldn't be done (or at least couldn't be done as "fun") on a traditional controller.
2. I couldn't even get Classic Controller support for GC games, and I was waiting on that for Mega Man X Collection (never did get any version of it)! If they couldn't do that why should we expect it here?
Potential to be better for FPSes and classic style/retro games. The biggest problem will be with action games like Devil May Cry, that's where the likes of the 360 controller could potentially be best, and even then I think I preferred the Dual Shock.
Want to lose?
Don't worry, I'm not going to bet. Just saying the layout makes perfect sense in this day and age, and I'd be very surprised if Microsoft wouldn't use it as well in the future. Especially as I'm pretty sure it's something 3rd parties requested.
This is essentially a third party designed controller. By that, I mean third party publishers let Nintendo know what they wanted in a controller, and Nintendo gave them what they wanted.
That's what's exciting, because for the first time ever, there isn't a single thing missing from this controller than the other platforms' controllers.
Uno Venova
Banned
I feel like once people have it in their hands they won't care, having your thumb an inch the other way shouldn't be a big problem.
Cpt Conifer
Member
Yeah the more I look at this, the more it looks like the sickest controller yet. I don't think it should be any more of a problem, compared to the X360 and other pads, to go between operating the face buttons and the right stick. This really cannot come out soon enough, it pains me that we have to wait for the WiiU because I am dying to get this for my PC now.
EmCeeGramr
Member
So early. Is this like admitting defeat?
I guessing this is going to be a new thing with nintendo. first the wii, than the 3ds, now this. Was there something similar before?
They announced the Classic Controller around the same time as they revealed the Wiimote.
For FPSs this would make more sense and that's 90% of what the west is interested in.
The bolded part doesn't make sense to begin with. You can't make a game that ONLY supports the Pad Pro. They are one and the same thing, just one is sold separate withouth NFC and screen. A dev that thinks like that is most certainly retarded. If you don't want to use the screen, don't? Just straight port the game with standard controls?
The Pad Pro is made for gamers, not devs, as said by Iwata:
Iwata said:
Earlier in the thread someone posted that Microsoft has copyrighted the position of the buttons and sticks in their controller.
Baconsammy
Banned
That doesn't explain the 3DS dpad, the Wiimote, and the classic controller.
How am I going to send you cocks with that?
I understand the 3DS, but the other two were fine for me. At least the PRO anyway, I never tried the original.
Patented, there's a huge difference there. Though I guess you COULD trademark the image, but that'd probably be easier to work around.
Wii Remote was fine so long as a game didn't need anything important from buttons 1 and 2, or at least something you'd need to press frequently. And the original CC was kind of bad for the analog sticks, but was great for other systems.
SquiddyCracker
Banned
Psh, real men use the BIG controller!
Lmao, wiimote FPS controls doesn't mean an advantage on all analog controllers
rip wiimote
One can hope! ;-)
Mushroomer25
Member
Agreed. It's a tragedy the Wii never got any top-tier FPSes. That control scheme is second only to mouse-keyboard.
Being reactionary is certainly something to be proud of, yes
base shagohod
Member
Oh man, this is great news.
Freezie KO
Banned
Why don't you ask Treyarch who had to add ridiculous amount of aim-assist to Modern Warfare 3 just to make dual analog competitive.
Destructoid said:
Criminal Upper
Banned
While I wish Nintendo had come with with a more unique design, they did decide to rip off the right controller. Make the triggers more squishy, and it'll easily top the 360 controller, as it already has it nailed in the Dpad department.