PROMETHEUS UNMARKED SPOILER THREAD!

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linkboy said:
No, its from Prometheus. It's what Fifield (and Holloway, just at a slower rate) were mutating into into.

Look at the smaller pic, this creature is wearing Fiflield's helmet.
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Nope. Those are just unused concepts - the artbook makes that clear.

The one quality all the designs Fifield's monster have in common is that he has an elongated head. So it's clear he was mutating into some kind of Xeno.
 
linkboy said:
No, its from Prometheus. It's what Fifield (and Holloway, just at a slower rate) were mutating into into.

Look at the smaller pic, this creature is wearing Fiflield's helmet.
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They were mutating into that? Fifeld seemed to have a hair growth problem, not a baldness problem. Unless there are several stages to this complex mutation, which is never touched on in the movie. It's the goo just doing its thing then, if it turns little worms into killer cobras then it can turn humans into xenomorph husks, and it dissolves space jockeys. Magic black stuff.
 
Here's a quick Glossary.

The Pyramid - The name of the structure where nearly everything goes down. It was originally designed to look more pyramid-like, but became more dome-like in reference to some of H.R. Giger's Alien designs for "egg-shaped mounds." The book contains one of the earlier, unused pieces of concept-art from when it was still a pyramid, which reveals an entirely different and more civilized vision for the landscape of LV-223.

The Engineers - Everyone already knows them as the aliens who created everything, but it's worth noting this name comes from Spaihts' original script for the film. Their physical design, particularly their head, was, "inspired by Michelangelo's David, Elvis Presley and the the Statue of Liberty." The mandate for their exosuit was, "Russian cosmonaut meets Samurai."

The Ampule Chamber - AKA the Room With the Giant Head. Scott's cue to the design team was to treat it like a cathedral, though without any clear ties to known religions. The murals on the ceiling depict the "Creation, Armageddon, and Judgment cycle."

The Ampule - These are the containers found within the ceremonial chamber. 70 ceramic Ampules with lids were crafted and carved with alien text by hand. Note: what oozes out of the Ampules after they're activated is referred to as the "black slime."

Babyhead - The production nickname for what Fifield turns into after being infected by the black slime. The original designs had him transforming into something remarkably more alien, as partially seen below.

Hammerpede - A production nickname for the snake-like creature that evolves from the black slime inside the Ampules. Its design was inspired by translucent sea creatures and it was built practically to be used on set. In fact, when it breaks Millburn's arm, Ridley Scott was operating the cables inside it.

The Juggernaut - The production name for the Engineer's spaceship. The design had to be modified from the crashed ship seen in Alien because the team modeled it and found out that its original horseshoe shape meant that it wouldn't roll like the film required it to, so its ends were brought in a bit to give it more of a donut shape.

The Orrery - The holographic navigation system David activates inside the Juggernaut's hibernation chamber.

Trilobite - The team's name for the impregnated creature Shaw removes via Med Pod-assisted cesarean. Animatronic versions of both its embryonic and grown forms were created for the film, with its final look being created by famed conceptual designer Neville Page.

The Deacon - Ridley Scott's own name for the offspring of the Trilobite and the Engineer, who dubbed it so because the final design - which includes elements from Shaw, the Engineer and the Trilobite - looked, "like a Bishop's mitre, the evil Deacon's pointed hat." Two versions of it were built: One for inside the birthing sac within the Engineer, and one for when it stands up.
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symphonask said:
- On Fifield: "[Infected] Fifield was considered to be the mid-point between the Hammerpede and Deacon, at the end." So does that mean Fifield was eventually gonna mutate into a Xeno?



They say the Xeno mural is a DNA homage to the Alien Giger creature. "It's kind of a homage to him. They look at it and speculate briefly about it. But it's not very clear what it is" - Arthur Max.

Don't know if they have any more on it. Still flicking through the book.
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What in the world is a hammerpede and deacon? I assume they are alien types. When did all of these names come about? even xenomorph. I don't remember hearing specific names in alien or aliens..

Edit: lol answered right above me. On my phone so didn't see the latest reply :p
 
BuddyJoeHooker said:
Here's a quick Glossary.
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The bit about the pyramid isn't quite right.

It's an unused design that giger did for the dune film he was contracted to before alien.

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Interesting that they mentioned that the proto Xeno came out of a birthing sack. That's what people were thinking was a queens egg tube.
 
Seeing it a 2nd time right now. There is more people here on a Monday than there was Friday lol


BTW how fucking bad does Premium Rush look ? Lol
 
I would have no problem with Ridley erasing the queen birthing cycle idea from the lore. Turning humans into eggs is way more imaginative and horrifying to me.
 
Messypandas said:
I would have no problem with Ridley erasing the queen birthing cycle idea from the lore. Turning humans into eggs is way more imaginative and horrifying to me.
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Nothing in prometheus even begins to hint that he is doing that.

Shit, if anything The Deacon takes a huge cue from the Queen design wise.
 
Messypandas said:
I would have no problem with Ridley erasing the queen birthing cycle idea from the lore. Turning humans into eggs is way more imaginative and horrifying to me.
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I don't think anyone would be on board with him ignoring Aliens. For better or worse he doesn't own the franchise enough anymore to do that.
 
Replicant said:
The film said otherwise:

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But this leads to another thing. That murial would have had to have been made at the time of the attack...why?

I did think that the only thing going on 2000 years ago was the Romans and Jesus, but discarded it as fast as I thought about it.

It makes sense though....!
 
symphonask said:
Nah, they're celebrating themselves.

- The head room is called the 'Ampule Chamber'

- Some sort of "cathedral, with murals, iconographic illustrations like in the Sistine Chapel, with the Creation, Armageddon and Judgement cycle."

- "There would be an altar of some kind, without it being recognisably affiliated with any know religion, but have the basic feel of a ceremonial place."

- "Then Ridley looked at it and said, 'Can we have a statue, a sculpture or something iconic in the middle that celebrates the Engineers?' The idea being that the Engineers, playing the role of God in the universe, have visited Earth many times over millennia and given mankind genetic upgrades both physical and intellectual. How would they celebrate themselves? So we came up with the idea of a giant head."
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Fallen angels.

The altar, I believe, is there someone sacrificed himself (a la inca), to generate the black goo in that room, that would lead to the creation of a super-Xenomorph (seen on the wall).

It is a self-sacrificial act, on the altar, in front of that mural, that will lead to what you see on the mural.
 
linkboy said:
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What's everyone's take on this picture.
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These might be the non-fallen angels, that are fighting the fallen-angels. It might be them who stopped the fallen-angels, and hence why all the jockeys have been fucked with and unable to go kill mankind, even the ones not on lv:223 (like the one in Alien found in space).

The mural shows a fallen-angel punching an angel.

Ridley said Paradise would be disturbing, and that the engineers are fallen angels who "have all the fun, look great, do cool stuff". So Paradise, and non-fallen angels, would be the opposite: ugly, boring, not doing the cool stuff.

edit: nm, saw the text above
 
"I traveled for 2 years, I'm not here to make friends. I'm here to make money."

*leaves job 5 minutes in*

These characters...
 
maharg said:
Yeah I actually think most of the "omg they are so dumb" things people complain about aren't that bad, but those guys getting lost just makes no fucking sense.
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Yeah, I can buy getting freaked out by a giant alien body and deciding to leave. They didn't know it was going to be that kind of job. But the part where they get lost makes no sense. It wasn't even necessary, either. They were already trapped in the dome by the storm. Just make the worm come to them.
 
DMczaf said:
"I traveled for 2 years, I'm not here to make friends. I'm here to make money."

*leaves job 5 minutes in*

These characters...
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LOL yes. And why was he soooooooo badass to be an honest to god push over? I mean yea, we saw him and thought "ZOMG hes gunna be badass!"

Got lost in a circle.
 
Fifield also happens to be a part of that retarded zombie attack scene. Arrives to the ship by crab walking, gets up, and then turns into a superman. Just awful.
 
Dresden said:
Fifield also happens to be a part of that retarded zombie attack scene. Arrives to the ship by crab walking, gets up, and then turns into a superman. Just awful.
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I was so confused that that part, I honestly thought it was her boyfriend. The Bro-Scientists.. The one noomi didn't ever bring up afterward..

that crab walk made NO sense. God this movie just pisses me off. I get a physical feeling in my brain just trying to make sense of it. Its like the information just isn't there to process.
 
out of all the other idiotic things in the film, this one keeps coming back to me:

if LV-223 is not LV-426 (maybe at some point it's re-assigned a number), then what is the point of showing the proto-xenomorph (the deacon)? how did it get from LV-223 to LV-426? are we to assume another slumbering jockey is on board the other ship and through another miraculous series of completely idiotic and ill-informed decisions, shaw manages to have it killed by another squid thing?

goddamnit this movie gets worse the more i think about it.
 
John Rabbit said:
out of all the other idiotic things in the film, this one keeps coming back to me:

if LV-223 is not LV-426 (maybe at some point it's re-assigned a number), then what is the point of showing the proto-xenomorph (the deacon)? how did it get from LV-223 to LV-426? are we to assume another slumbering jockey is on board the other ship and through another miraculous series of completely idiociy and ill-informed decisions, shaw manages to have it killed by another squid thing?

goddamnit this movie gets worse the more i think about it.
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The Deacon isn't really the same as the Xenomorph either. I assume the Xenomorph was just a later design.
 
John Rabbit said:
out of all the other idiotic things in the film, this one keeps coming back to me:

if LV-223 is not LV-426 (maybe at some point it's re-assigned a number), then what is the point of showing the proto-xenomorph (the deacon)? how did it get from LV-223 to LV-426? are we to assume another slumbering jockey is on board the other ship and through another miraculous series of completely idiociy and ill-informed decisions, shaw manages to have it killed by another squid thing?

goddamnit this movie gets worse the more i think about it.
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It's still gestating (Just got back from seeing it) but other than visually I have a feeling it may not rest well.

Are people done being excited about Lindelof yet? Not anyone specifically but for a while I was excited he was involved (maybe because everyone else seemed to be), but I don't know who to blame right now.
 
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