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The movie talks about 35 000 years.
That's just the oldest cave painting.
If they seeded life on Earth (and then kept intervening so one species would evolve into something extremely similar to them, I guess?), that would actually be... almost 5 billion years?
 
The use of creationist here is a counter to evolution. But the truth is that lots of religious people believe in a mix. God created man, but man developed through evolution. Science and faith don't have to be completely different things.
 
Are you seriously suggesting that every "scientist" in this world is an atheist ?

What are you referring to as the definition of creationist? Somebody that believes God was responsible for creation of ALL life, or just humans? If it's the latter then no she isn't. If the former then yes she absolutely is a creationist. She believes in evolution but also that a higher being made it all happen.

And that's not the only reason some people dislike Shaw, I just couldn't care for her because the film didn't make me.
 
You do know that tons of Christians aren't creationists right? :P

Maybe I'm oversimplifying things here as an athiest, but how does a person rectify a belief in Christianity without buying creationism? If a Christian subscribes to evolution, aren't you basically peeing in the face of your religion?
 
There is no Ripley in this film. Ripley is a character who is able to deal with dangerous threats instinctively. The only threats in this film are the characters themselves. Everything that happened was a result of unbelievably poor planning, really stupid reactions, and contrived plot devices.
David is the Ripley in this film.
 
David is the hero of the whole movie, he's 2001: A Space Odyssey's Star Child but in HAL's clothing. The humans are the evil scheming aliens. The engineers are essentially the filmmakers. It's all very meta.

David >>>>>>>>>> the rest of this mess.

Let's just have David touching more stuffs in the sequel. I need one scene where David touches the man-boobs of the Engineers just for kicks.
 
What are you referring to as the definition of creationist? Somebody that believes God was responsible for creation of ALL life, or just humans? If it's the latter then no she isn't. If the former then yes she absolutely is a creationist. She believes in evolution but also that a higher being made it all happen.

And that's not the only reason some people dislike Shaw, I just couldn't care for her because the film didn't make me.

Eh I cared for her and Im looking forward to seeing her in the sequel.
 
Maybe I'm oversimplifying things here as an athiest, but how does a person rectify a belief in Christianity without buying creationism? If a Christian subscribes to evolution, aren't you basically peeing in the face of your religion?
You (conveniently) choose to believe that Genesis is merely an allegory.
 
Maybe I'm oversimplifying things here as an athiest, but how does a person rectify a belief in Christianity without buying creationism?

God is the creator of all life and all being. Everything is made by a guiding hand. But since everything that is made still conforms to rules of reality which forms the basis for science, it does not exclude the possibility that our final form resulted over a period of time. Hence, evolution.

The bible says God created the world in 7 days. How long is 7 days for God? :)
 
Isn't Vickers that authority figure, though. Sandstorm outside? "I'm closing the outer doors in 15 minutes, I sincerely hope you make it." Infected crew member? "He's not coming on my ship."

If she was with the initial expedition, I'd bet she wouldn't have taken her helmet off. She's arguably the most cautious character in the whole Alien series. I really liked her. Hope her deleted scenes make it into the extended cut.

I agree with you about Vickers but the film/the rest of the characters don't see it that way. Like I said before, unlike Ripley and Mace (Evans' character in "Sunshine") the film/script doesn't back up Vicker's authority. The film never awarded her for being right. Instead they continue to villain-ize her before killing her in a stupid scene.
 
I agree with you about Vickers but the film/the rest of the characters don't see it that way. Like I said before, unlike Ripley and Mace (Evans' character in "Sunshine") the film/script doesn't back up Vicker's authority. The film never awarded her for being right. Instead they continue to villain-ize her before killing her in a stupid scene.

I agree, she should have been utilized better.

If Vickers was on the Nostromo, she would have burned Kane to a crisp as soon as he stepped aboard. :)
 
Eh I cared for her and Im looking forward to seeing her in the sequel.

I wouldn't say I cared for her, but her and David were the two best characters (and actors) in the film (which I know isn't saying much). I am certainly looking forward to them in a sequel that gives them more to work with.
 
That's just the oldest cave painting.
If they seeded life on Earth (and then kept intervening so one species would evolve into something extremely similar to them, I guess?), that would actually be... almost 5 billion years?

Ehh, perhaps that 5 billion years estimate might when you don't take a super-growth alien black goo into consideration. Could very well be that the humans evolved just as rapidly from the black goo as that fetus did in Shaw's body.

The "why" question to me was more important than the "how" question. Why would an advanced race ever bother to populate a new environment with a species? In this case, since it was a military research center they stumbled upon, only reason I can think of is to use us to create biological weapons. Either that or use us as test subjects. Whatever the answer would have been, the characters in the movie would have definitely not liked it...
 
What they really need to do is get Joss Whedon on it, if that guy can pull off bringing a team of disjointed superheroes together in one film - he can definitely pull off the origins of mankind no question.
 
I know people are gonna go "Oh God no, did you see Avatar and Titanic?" but I think Cameron can make a more interesting sequel here. At least we'd damn well know he wouldn't hire Lindelof and company on script.

Or better yet they should just not make a sequel to this film or Blade Runner and leave it all be. New IP.
 
I know people are gonna go "Oh God no, did you see Avatar and Titanic?" but I think Cameron can make a more interesting sequel here. At least we'd damn well know he wouldn't hire Lindelof and company on script.

Or better yet they should just not make a sequel to this film or Blade Runner and leave it all be. New IP.

Those movies are miles better than this one.
 
Well, yeah. But I'm sure quite a few people here would disagree.

Avatar is a better film but it retreads some really familiar material (thus being sort of dull in the process), the sequel will be a lot more interesting. I am quite optimistic about it.
 
I know people are gonna go "Oh God no, did you see Avatar and Titanic?" but I think Cameron can make a more interesting sequel here. At least we'd damn well know he wouldn't hire Lindelof and company on script.

Or better yet they should just not make a sequel to this film or Blade Runner and leave it all be. New IP.

Cameron has fully committed himself to Avatar so he's out of the equation. Ridley said he wants to do it so I assume that's what'll happen. Just don't re-hire Lindelof again please.

Also, this film actually made me look forward to the Blade Runner sequel so long as the script is several leagues above this one.


Those movies are miles better than this one.
Agreed.
 
What they really need to do is get Joss Whedon on it,

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Well at least we know his next few films won't have a script as pedestrian as this, unless they get Lindelof back for Prometheus 2. The Councilor is written by Cormac McCarthy and Hampton Fancher is back for the new Blade Runner, so I say bring them on.
 
Blade Runner's one of my favorite films. To see a director who's just a hollow shell of what he once was revisit it doesn't really ease my doubts. Especially after Prometheus which I expected to be his return to form.

If they must make a Blade Runner sequel they should give it to a new director.
 
Well at least we know his next few films won't have a script as pedestrian as this, unless they get Lindelof back for Prometheus 2. The Councilor is written by Cormac McCarthy and Hampton Fancher is back for the new Blade Runner, so I say bring them on.

He's getting Hampton back for the new Blade Runner? I'm so in!
 
Hulk Ripley. Air Jordan/Harlem Globe Trotters Ripley. Wal-Mart. Xenomorphs that swim.

I remember reading Alien: Resurrection and Starship Troopers back to back before seeing the films. I thought AR had the stronger script. Starship Troopers is my preferred film by a mile.
 
No alien invasion from what I remember but Max becomes immortal and ends up working at the pentagon after defending early christians from the romans and fighting in WW2.

I think I remember what it is I read. Someone reviewed the script, and made up an additional beat at the end as a joke.
 
Avatar is better?

MUCH better. Call it cliche'd and cheesey, at least it tells a logical story and has actual (if shallow) characters, none of which Prometheus can claim to have. Also, its much better paced, scored, and has much better action sequences. Avatar >>> Prometheus.
 
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