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[The Faceless Master]

This is shameful and ridiculous. What is wrong with some humans?

 

[shinobi602]

I get that, but the decision was made by the store manager, not Apple as an entity.
You worded it in a way like it was Apple policy not to sell to Ir.-Americans and therefore your title sucks.

The video itself says it's Apple policy.

 

[KHarvey16]

Apple's waaaay overstepping their bounds on that.

Apple isn't doing anything. An employee turned out to be an idiot. A smarter employee let told them what they could do to avoid the idiot.

The video itself says it's Apple policy.

Then the video is as good as the article.

 

[FStop7]

I get that, but the decision was made by the store manager, not Apple as an entity.
You worded it in a way like it was Apple policy not to sell to Ir.-Americans and therefore your title sucks.

As the manager of the Apple Store guess who he represents?

 

[Suairyu]

I do know that a lot of Iranians would come into electronics stores here in Canada, specifically to resell them on the Iranian black market.

I think that has a lot more to do with it, rather than just "oh we don't like Iranians".

Obviously when you put it in blunt racial terms like that.. shit's gonna go sour. It's a lot like the Ikea/Gypsy thing.

Yes, but like the IKEA/Traveler thing, it's still racist discrimination. There isn't justification for it.

 

[ClassyPenguin]

This really does suck, however doesn't Apple have the right to refuse service to anyone for whatever reason? Just playing Devil's advocate here, and agree that Apple could have handled this better.

I believe the Civil Rights Act makes it illegal for things such as this.

 

[Reuenthal]

This is fucked up.

 

[Deified Data]

This doesn't sound real.

 

[M-PG71C]

wail, thts guuuuuddddd danit it 2 hell. we dunt need no fuckin muslim islam-communist un godchristian fuck tryin to buy our computurs to kill us wit.

FUCK THEM!

 

[Cheebo]

The video itself says it's Apple policy.

Stop trying to pretend to be oblivious. The policy is about the exportation of goods. Which is the policy of every American retailer. The employee was an idiot and didn't follow the policy.

A manager showed Channel 2 Action News Apple's policy. It said the exportation, sale or supply from the U.S. to Iran of any Apple goods is strictly prohibited without authorization by the U.S. government. The manager also says they have to rely on customers to be honest.

Valid policy that is very standard for all retailers. what the manager did had nothing to do with this policy, the manager was being an idiot.

 

[The Super Bob]

Surely this can't be actual policy.

I can't understand why one manager would decide to try to enforce something like this.

 

[NH Apache]

Yeah he is a fanboy, I've noticed over the past few months he just looks for excuses to post anti-Apple nonsense. This issue in the topic is valid though.

Lol, ok. So a racist policy of not selling to American citizens who happen to be of Iranian descent is nonsense? What world are you from?

Nice edit.

 

[ReBurn]

Apple is not travelling to Iran with laptops or satellite cellphones, and it is not part of the gov't policy to refuse sale of said devices based on a suspicion that this may happen.

When I bought a laptop a few weeks ago I was asked if I planned to take it out of the country or ship it overseas. When I asked why I was told by Best Buy that it is against the law to sell certain types of computer equipment if it will be taken out of the country.

 

[Jburton]

OP has an agenda;


And his previous topic was;

Top analyst: "Apple will decline"

Apple hate flowin'

lol .. smh.

 

[Burger]

Guess who's getting sacked tomorrow?

 

[KHarvey16]

Lol, ok. So a racist policy of not selling to American citizens who happen to be of Iranian descent is nonsense? What world are you from?

Nice edit.

No such policy exists.

People seriously need to use their brains for a second here.

 

[xbhaskarx]

I am pretty sure Iran is not the only Middle East country that speaks Farsi

I don't even know what the point of this line of thinking is, and maybe there are small pockets in Afghanistan, Turkmenistan, or Iraq, but the vast majority of those who speak Farsi in the Middle East are from Iran.

 

[siddhu33]

This is shameful and ridiculous. What is wrong with some humans?

Years of misinformation, and a reason to vent can do that.

 

[SUPREME1]

Smh Apple.

 

[Talon]

So a manager does something stupid, and it's company policy?

Also, my home state looking good again.

The irony here with the lead in the WSB2 story is that WSB is super conservative.

 

[Cheebo]

No such policy exists.

People seriously need to use their brains for a second here.

People jump at everything to attack Apple.

Idiot employee misunderstands standard retail policy? APPLE AS A CORPORATIONS HATES IRANIAN AMERICANS.

 

[shinobi602]

OP has an agenda;


And his previous topic was;

Top analyst: "Apple will decline"

Apple hate flowin'

I've also posted how I'm torn between the iphone 5 and Galaxy S3, and also commented on how good that iphone 5 mockup (while fake) looked. But feel free to ignore those.

 

[Acheteedo]

Thanks they stopped Iran getting that iPad. With that plan foiled, there's simply no other way they can obtain them.

 

[siddhu33]

Thanks they stopped Iran getting that iPad. With that plan foiled, there's simply no other way they can obtain them.

It's like a really shitty episode of sponge bob squarepants, with the iPad as a krabby patty...

 

[RiccochetJ]

Why is there an issue with taking electronics back to Iran?

It's new sanctions that our government have placed against Iran and Syria back in April.
NY Times Article

WASHINGTON — President Obama moved to tighten sanctions on Syria and Iran on Monday by taking aim at those who provide their authoritarian governments with technology to track down dissidents for abuse, torture or death.

The measures underscored the role that computers, social media and cellphones have played in the recent political upheavals in the Middle East, not just in organizing resistance to entrenched leaders, but also in helping security services crack down on protesters. The president’s action is meant to put on notice individuals and companies that provide the technology that enables human rights abuses.

 

[Cheebo]

Smh Apple.

Tell me what did APPLE do. Their policy is standard and set for basically every American retailer. A idiot employee misread it and stupidly turned away a customer.

If a dumb Wal-Mart manager shot a customer would you call it "WAL-MART SHOOTS A CUSTOMER"? Of course not.

 

[McLovin]

Topic isn't nonsense but he will post anything anti-Apple. Nonsense or otherwise. Usually made up garbage.

Dude your coming off as more of a fanboy for remembering that he posted it. If you haven't notice he pretty much posts anything he thinks is news worthy. He makes tons of threads.

 

[Phantast2k]

The video itself says it's Apple policy.

Ok, I watched that video and it's still factually wrong.

As the manager of the Apple Store guess who he represents?

But store managers' actions do not have to be in line with Apple policy, they can act up or misconstrue official policy, can they not?

/and I'm probably beaten by time I'm posting this..

 

[SKINNER!]

All the more reason to get a Surface.

yup!

 

[BocoDragon]

Yes, but like the IKEA/Traveler thing, it's still racist discrimination. There isn't justification for it.

Of course.

It's perfectly fair for Apple not to want to sell to black market resellers, and it's perfectly fair for Ikea not to want parking lot squatters.

But, it's imprecise and racist to make it about "Iranians" and "Gypsys".. Even if those ethnic groups often fit the profile of those who participate in such things, you've got to go about things in a way that doesn't make presumptions. That's a no brainer.

Besides, even if we weren't afraid of making racial judgements (and we should be), there are so many Iranians living in the west, that to presume they are all resellers is not even close to a smart profiling.

 

[FStop7]

Lol, ok. So a racist policy of not selling to American citizens who happen to be of Iranian descent is nonsense? What world are you from?

Nice edit.

If those silly browns would just whiten up they'd be free to enjoy Steve's plentiful bounty!

Interesting sidenote - Steve Jobs' father was Syrian. I guess he would be banned from buying his own company's products?

 

[Gentleman Jack]

When I bought a laptop a few weeks ago I was asked if I planned to take it out of the country or ship it overseas. When I asked why I was told by Best Buy that it is against the law to sell certain types of computer equipment if it will be taken out of the country.

I don't get asked any of these questions when ordering Apple stuff from their online store. Sounds like a Best Buy policy, not a government one. Or maybe it was another under-informed employee, natch.

 

[Cheebo]

I've also posted how I'm torn between the iphone 5 and Galaxy S3, and also commented on how good that iphone 5 mockup (while fake) looked. But feel free to ignore those.

That doesn't mean your topic isn't sensationalist (and not taken from the link) and plain factually incorrect. This isn't Apple policy. This is a dumb apple employee misreading policy followed by all American retailers following the new Iran exportation restrictions.


The fact people are referring to some sort of "racist policy" proves that pretty much no one reads links in topics. If they did they'd realize quickly the OP got it wrong about this being Apple policy.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

"A representative for the U.S. State Department says it is illegal to travel to Iran with laptops or satellite cellphones without U.S. authorization."

They're just following the rules, I guess.

hearing someone speak a foreign language is not definitive proof someone is from or planning on returning to any specific country.

 

[Cat Party]

As much as I do enjoy seeing Apple get knocked down a peg every now and then, this is really about a dumb store manager misunderstanding an Apple policy.

 

[BocoDragon]

Thanks they stopped Iran getting that iPad. With that plan foiled, there's simply no other way they can obtain them.

It's actually hilarious because the main electronics chain in Canada, Future Shop, was started by an Iranian-Canadian, and still has a very large Iranian workforce. I think Iranians have an in to get iPads if they want, lol.

If those silly browns would just whiten up they'd be free to enjoy Steve's plentiful bounty!

Interesting sidenote - Steve Jobs' father was Syrian. I guess he would be banned from buying his own company's products?

Iranians often aren't that brown... They're not Arabian. But I digress.

 

[FStop7]

People jump at everything to attack Apple.

Idiot employee misunderstands standard retail policy? APPLE AS A CORPORATIONS HATES IRANIAN AMERICANS.

This isn't just some random sales drone. It's the manager of their retail store in a major city. And per the story it happened at two separate locations - Perimeter Center and North Point.

 

[kehs]

That manager is dumb as shit. He totally misinterpreted the law in question.

 

[RBH]

Shit, I didn't even see that this happened at the Perimeter location as well.

Guess I shouldn't be surprised about my home state in certain instances......

 

[artist]

The fact people are referring to some sort of "racist policy" proves that pretty much no one reads links in topics. If they did they'd realize quickly the OP got it wrong about this being Apple policy.

Yeah, seems like shinobi is getting the reactions he was looking for.

 

[Kurdel]

This isn't just some random sales drone. It's the manager of their retail store in a major city. And per the story it happened at two separate locations - Perimeter Center and North Point.

What are you implying?

Some kind of company wide conspiracy against Iranian Americans?

 

[kehs]

That doesn't mean your topic isn't sensationalist (and not taken from the link) and plain factually incorrect. This isn't Apple policy. This is a dumb apple employee misreading policy followed by all American retailers following the new Iran exportation restrictions.

Yeah, seems like shinobi is getting the reactions he was looking for.

Most people aren't aware of the prohibition of sales between Iran/US.

I was surprised when Schmidt had to ask his lawyer how to answer a question about expanding google services to Iran during a conference earlier in the year.

 

[Bollocks]

That manager is dumb as shit. He totally misinterpreted the law in question.

Was the managers name by any chance George Zimmerman?

 

[Angry Grimace]

There is a non "full-fledged" Farsi and Apple store employees are trained to figure that out?

 

[Vyer]

This isn't just some random sales drone. It's the manager of their retail store in a major city. And per the story it happened at two separate locations - Perimeter Center and North Point.

Lol. major city retail manager people. Major. City. It's basically like Obama spoke

 

[jediyoshi]

What are you implying?

Some kind of company wide conspiracy against Iranian Americans?

The only explanation.

 

[FStop7]

What are you implying?

Some kind of company wide conspiracy against Iranian Americans?

I'm not implying anything. People keep saying "herp derp it's just some employee derpa lerp" and I'm pointing out that's wrong on two levels. It's not just a rank and file employee and it's not the only time it's happened.

 

[KHarvey16]

I'm not implying anything. People keep saying "herp derp it's just some employee derpa lerp" and I'm pointing out that's wrong on two levels. It's not just a rank and file employee and it's not the only time it's happened.

But it IS just some employee. There is no Apple policy prohibiting the sale of goods to Iranian Americans or even Iranians. There IS a federal policy against any company knowingly selling to someone who will export goods to Iran.

 

[Loofy]

I'm not implying anything. People keep saying "herp derp it's just some employee derpa lerp" and I'm pointing out that's wrong on two levels. It's not just a rank and file employee and it's not the only time it's happened.

Dont know what youre point is. Theres managers, and then theres retail managers.. which are just regular employees with maybe a $2 raise in pay.

 

[numble]

Ever since Syrian-American Steve Jobs left, they unleashed their pent up racism.