Much as I love football, England will probably be out by then so I am not happy at this news.
Eureka Seven Astral Ocean |OT| "Don't fight it, feel it"
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Only now did I realize how this statement very very tangentially also applies to the original E7.
lol
Indeed, indeed.
Episode 9
Episode was good, with some interesting scenes, some hints about stuff and I felt it was more consistent in the look department (more than 8 anyways).
I don't like Truth, he's looking more and more like a real asshole, which I feel is the point, so I'm expecting big things from him going forward. Hope I won't be disappointed.
Episode 9
Episode was good, with some interesting scenes, some hints about stuff and I felt it was more consistent in the look department (more than 8 anyways).
I don't like Truth, he's looking more and more like a real asshole, which I feel is the point, so I'm expecting big things from him going forward. Hope I won't be disappointed.
Dedication Through Light
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Eureka Seven AO 9
The episode itself pretty cool. Ao and the Pied Piper stuff was fun and suspenseful. Enjoy how he fits in with the team, though, why so on edge all the time, could have got in the pool too. Shocking moment was when
Truth was great. I love how he is the cool bad dude that really just ups the cool factor of the show and supplies the explosions with deep lines.
The episode itself pretty cool. Ao and the Pied Piper stuff was fun and suspenseful. Enjoy how he fits in with the team, though, why so on edge all the time, could have got in the pool too. Shocking moment was when
the dude morphed into Truth, somehow its always shocking when it happens...and when Ao was the savior and saved, nice
Truth was great. I love how he is the cool bad dude that really just ups the cool factor of the show and supplies the explosions with deep lines.
lol no
At least I got it confirmed that it's more than 70 years after the first season. Makes sense with considering how the world has developed. I don't get where people got the 20 years later theory from. Also, getting annoyed over the stupid fan service. I hate fan service; it ruins anime.
Hypertrooper
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Where did they mention that?
Where are you getting 70 years from? How would that make sense considering Ao's parentage?
If you want to strictly speak timelines, Moondoggie held up his pilot's license in Eureka Seven that was dated 2005. Astral Ocean, in comparison, takes place in 2025. That's been stated on numerous occasions.
Don't get caught up in dates, though. The changes in the world are far more likely to be explained by some sort of alternate reality theory.
They just talked about the scub burst that happened in tokyo 70 years ago? it destroyed the whole city. i dont recall those bursts happening before.
In the original series, no one lived on earth. How could Tokyo be rebuilt and destroyed all over again within 70 years? Eureka Seven took place thousands and thousands of years into the future..it was basically post-apocalyptic. In Astral Ocean, they reference dates like the 1980's..the 1940's (World War 2)..and the story itself is set in 2025. It's very much designed as a "near future" version of the world we actually live in. There are no similarities between the setting of the two series besides the existence of scub coral and trapar energy.
If Ao is Renton and Eureka's son from the original series, then he's somehow found himself in an alternate universe, which would make sense given the ending of the original series. The timelines don't make sense otherwise. That would explain Eureka falling from the sky in the episode 3 flashback.
If it is the same universe, it seems more likely that AO is a prequel..occurring right around the time the scubs began appearing on earth. In that case, the presence of Eureka and Ao would suggest that some kind of time travel is involved.
The setting and events simply do not make sense for AO to be a direct sequel occurring only 20-70 years after the original series. I think that's intentional; the mystery surrounding the nature of AO's world appears to be the main hook of the series.
True! That would be the best explanation if it is a direct sequel. Still, check out my stealth edits above. I added a couple more thoughts on why the two universes seem to be compatible.
Or maybe renton's not the father and eureka, being a coralian, can live much longer than normal humans.
And the moon was fixed by the rabbit living on it.
Ultimadrago
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Eureka Seven AO 9
"Ao, you can't swim? Did you eat some weird fruit?"
Ugh...Come on, son.
The episode was alright. It summed up to,
and "Ao has new friends now."
Dat bum life.
"Ao, you can't swim? Did you eat some weird fruit?"
Ugh...Come on, son.
The episode was alright. It summed up to,
"Don't trust young Japanese military officers"
70 years ago a scub burst destroyed Tokyo and ended Japan's involvement in WWII. This is series is set in an alternate past Earth.
The OVA for Eureka Seven AO will be released on Sept 20 in Japan. It is a hybrid disc release, where they sell it in game stores as a PS3 title, but the blu-ray includes what is usually a shitty action game along with the anime OVA.
The OVA is called "The Flowers of Jungfrau" and is a 30 minute episode which takes place between ep8 and 9. Apparently it's about Ao, Elena and Fleur trying to evade being part of a documentary program. The game is called Eureka Seven Attack the Legend, and it includes short missions taken from the original TV series, the new AO series, as well as the movie.
The regular version will cost 7980yen, and there will also be a limited edition going for 10500yen. The LE includes the storyboards and script for the OVA episode, the Eureka Seven Archive, and an illustrated box. Both versions also include bonus features on the disc including a documentary on the Pachislot game, a discussion with the voice cast, as well as Eureka Seven Episode 51 New Order.
The OVA is called "The Flowers of Jungfrau" and is a 30 minute episode which takes place between ep8 and 9. Apparently it's about Ao, Elena and Fleur trying to evade being part of a documentary program. The game is called Eureka Seven Attack the Legend, and it includes short missions taken from the original TV series, the new AO series, as well as the movie.
The regular version will cost 7980yen, and there will also be a limited edition going for 10500yen. The LE includes the storyboards and script for the OVA episode, the Eureka Seven Archive, and an illustrated box. Both versions also include bonus features on the disc including a documentary on the Pachislot game, a discussion with the voice cast, as well as Eureka Seven Episode 51 New Order.
I really do wonder now if they're going to try and shoehorn in Episode 51 into canon despite how god fucking awful that would be.
Kinda annoyed they can't get a good developer to make a good mech game for them. I mean the combat mechanics could be amazing and yet nothing is done with it.
Simplest way would just be that they all lived happily ever after (Episode 50) until some shit went down and Eureka had to create the seven fragments, or whatever (can't recall the details of 51). That would lead to her disappearance, which sets up AO.
With a little bit of twisting and turning, they don't really seem all that incompatible, do they?
In case you guys missed it in the anime thread: new OP/ED in mid-July, FLOW is doing the new OP, joy is doing the new ED.
In other news: http://www.bandainamcogames.co.jp/cs/list/eurekaao/top.html
Erm... yeah... that OVA looks lulz.
In other news: http://www.bandainamcogames.co.jp/cs/list/eurekaao/top.html
Erm... yeah... that OVA looks lulz.
One of the shots looks like Eureka is there with and Fleur... but Eureka looks too young, so I wonder if that was Ao cosplaying Eureka.
Episode 10
With Igarashi storyboarding this episode I was hoping for more comedy or humor, but there wasn't much here. Still, there were some pretty creative shots and nice layout for several scenes. The scenario itself this week was pretty fun and I liked how they mixed character development with a rather unusual mission scenario. The action at the end was pretty satisfying, with some really nice effect animations.
At this point, it's pretty obvious that Ao reflects the audience, while Truth reflects the authors of the show. There's quite a bit of self-aware trolling going on, but I don't mind it much if the payoff eventually is good. We'll see where it goes. Next week looks like another major plot episode. It could either be awesome, or painful! Can't wait.
With Igarashi storyboarding this episode I was hoping for more comedy or humor, but there wasn't much here. Still, there were some pretty creative shots and nice layout for several scenes. The scenario itself this week was pretty fun and I liked how they mixed character development with a rather unusual mission scenario. The action at the end was pretty satisfying, with some really nice effect animations.
At this point, it's pretty obvious that Ao reflects the audience, while Truth reflects the authors of the show. There's quite a bit of self-aware trolling going on, but I don't mind it much if the payoff eventually is good. We'll see where it goes. Next week looks like another major plot episode. It could either be awesome, or painful! Can't wait.
Eureka Seven AO Episode 10:
Ok this was a fairly decent episode. I have a problem with some of the editing, which has been a running complaint throughout the series, and Truth being Truth but overall this was a fantastic episode on the character development standpoint. Animation was a little quirky but acceptable and nothing major music-wise although they did introduce a new piece around the 15:00 mark that I liked. This was a much better episode than the past couple.
Next episode: Everyone's favorite character is up to bat.
Ok this was a fairly decent episode. I have a problem with some of the editing, which has been a running complaint throughout the series, and Truth being Truth but overall this was a fantastic episode on the character development standpoint. Animation was a little quirky but acceptable and nothing major music-wise although they did introduce a new piece around the 15:00 mark that I liked. This was a much better episode than the past couple.
The show really has surprised me with the tone at times. You have fanservice characters such as Elena then talk of genocide and seeing people being killed in the next episode. The series feels like it has an identity crisis at times which is a shame as when they focus on a serious and darker story, they can really be good at it. You can definitely feel Aikawa's hand throughout this episode due to how political this show is and even character interactions. The fact that a PR company is running GenBlue reinforces the notion that the politics component of the show is indeed here to stay and will atleast be a running theme or motivation throughout.
Let me get my mini-rant with Truth out of the way. He's really becoming a boring villain on multiple levels. The first is that his dialogue is all cryptic bullshit that he continuously spouts without giving any new insight. He's obviously designed as a character who in hindsight will make more sense but as it stands, he's quickly becoming annoying with his whole cloak-and-dagger routine. He feels like a character that Lindelof would write. Another problem is how ridiculously overpowered he is. He never feels like a credible threat because of how powerful he is. Yes that sounds like an oxymoron but let me explain. When the villain can easily wipe out the entire cast of characters but doesn't do it or even attempt to on a repeated basis then they lose that threat level. How is a man supposed to fight a god? That's a problem with the series is that there isn't anyone who directly challenges Ao like Anemone in the original series did to Eureka/Renton. I also still hate his design although it looks acceptable when they actually put money into it but when they don't, it looks atrocious.
Now for the meat of the episode. Great character development on the part of Ao. We finally see a new reaction from him. Fear. Now before someone states why this hasn't happened earlier, like when he first started fighting, remember that he's defenseless in this situation in a way he's really never been before. He's completely unarmed and also getting a very upclose view of people dying with the very real possibility that he's next. Throughout the series up to this point, we've seen him with bravado even up against seemingly impossible odds but when he's completely helpless, he breaks. I think this was a great reaction as most kids(and adults) would have freaked out as well. Let me state this very clearly, he's a much better protagonist than Renton ever was. His decision to run with the tent is something his father would be proud of, not only on the stupidity level which Renton was prone to do but also the courage component as well. It also showed a relatively decent level of smarts, something the show and characters have been missing for the most part. It's a truly worthy moment of badass compiled with his speech at the end to the civilians and really acting like a leader. I was almost as shocked as Ivica was in regards to how mature Ao really is for a character his age, not to mention a character his age in anime.
Time for Ivica, the star of the episode. He's a much more complicated character and along with Ao, truly are the highlight of the series. It's really amazing how character quality can vary in this show when we have characters like Ivica, Ao, and Rebecca along with shallow characters like Naru, Elena, and Truth for the time being. It really brings up his dynamic with the company in that he's working with the devil in order to make the world a better place. I have no idea how hard it must be to work for the company who helped eliminate your friends and family. The line about him being a father as well highlights his father role in Pied Piper and shows how he's trying to protect his new family as compensation for the one he lost. This episode also shows how conflicted he is about everything especially in regards to children fighting his battles for him. Ivica also seems slightly suicidal(possibly a trait in all commanders as seen by the prior leader of Goldilocks) demonstrated by him pulling out the rocket launcher and going toe to toe with a Secret.
Rebecca is also a much more interesting character now too. We now know who is pulling the string behind GenBlue, some PR company(weirdly enough), and she's working for them. This also adds a layer to her work at GenBlue and her interactions with Ivica in general. Although they weirdly implied that Ivica while knowing she worked for the PR company, doesn't know she was heavily(I guess) responsible for his country being wiped. A great scene with her was she pointed the gun directly at the Governor's genitalia. This worked fairly well as I'm sure other people thought as I did, that she was going to have to seduce/have sex with him in order to make him sign the contract. This was reinforced with the Governor touching her shoulder and I thought they were going to go in that direction but reversing that and putting her back in a position of power really reinforced her character in a way that it took 30+ episodes for Talho to achieve.
There was some excellent visuals and symbolism in this episode as well.
This one reminded me of the Pied Piper story in that Ao was leading the others in a uniform manner and movement. Confirmed at the end with Ivica saying how the children were the Pipers.
Let me get my mini-rant with Truth out of the way. He's really becoming a boring villain on multiple levels. The first is that his dialogue is all cryptic bullshit that he continuously spouts without giving any new insight. He's obviously designed as a character who in hindsight will make more sense but as it stands, he's quickly becoming annoying with his whole cloak-and-dagger routine. He feels like a character that Lindelof would write. Another problem is how ridiculously overpowered he is. He never feels like a credible threat because of how powerful he is. Yes that sounds like an oxymoron but let me explain. When the villain can easily wipe out the entire cast of characters but doesn't do it or even attempt to on a repeated basis then they lose that threat level. How is a man supposed to fight a god? That's a problem with the series is that there isn't anyone who directly challenges Ao like Anemone in the original series did to Eureka/Renton. I also still hate his design although it looks acceptable when they actually put money into it but when they don't, it looks atrocious.
Now for the meat of the episode. Great character development on the part of Ao. We finally see a new reaction from him. Fear. Now before someone states why this hasn't happened earlier, like when he first started fighting, remember that he's defenseless in this situation in a way he's really never been before. He's completely unarmed and also getting a very upclose view of people dying with the very real possibility that he's next. Throughout the series up to this point, we've seen him with bravado even up against seemingly impossible odds but when he's completely helpless, he breaks. I think this was a great reaction as most kids(and adults) would have freaked out as well. Let me state this very clearly, he's a much better protagonist than Renton ever was. His decision to run with the tent is something his father would be proud of, not only on the stupidity level which Renton was prone to do but also the courage component as well. It also showed a relatively decent level of smarts, something the show and characters have been missing for the most part. It's a truly worthy moment of badass compiled with his speech at the end to the civilians and really acting like a leader. I was almost as shocked as Ivica was in regards to how mature Ao really is for a character his age, not to mention a character his age in anime.
Time for Ivica, the star of the episode. He's a much more complicated character and along with Ao, truly are the highlight of the series. It's really amazing how character quality can vary in this show when we have characters like Ivica, Ao, and Rebecca along with shallow characters like Naru, Elena, and Truth for the time being. It really brings up his dynamic with the company in that he's working with the devil in order to make the world a better place. I have no idea how hard it must be to work for the company who helped eliminate your friends and family. The line about him being a father as well highlights his father role in Pied Piper and shows how he's trying to protect his new family as compensation for the one he lost. This episode also shows how conflicted he is about everything especially in regards to children fighting his battles for him. Ivica also seems slightly suicidal(possibly a trait in all commanders as seen by the prior leader of Goldilocks) demonstrated by him pulling out the rocket launcher and going toe to toe with a Secret.
Rebecca is also a much more interesting character now too. We now know who is pulling the string behind GenBlue, some PR company(weirdly enough), and she's working for them. This also adds a layer to her work at GenBlue and her interactions with Ivica in general. Although they weirdly implied that Ivica while knowing she worked for the PR company, doesn't know she was heavily(I guess) responsible for his country being wiped. A great scene with her was she pointed the gun directly at the Governor's genitalia. This worked fairly well as I'm sure other people thought as I did, that she was going to have to seduce/have sex with him in order to make him sign the contract. This was reinforced with the Governor touching her shoulder and I thought they were going to go in that direction but reversing that and putting her back in a position of power really reinforced her character in a way that it took 30+ episodes for Talho to achieve.
There was some excellent visuals and symbolism in this episode as well.
This one reminded me of the Pied Piper story in that Ao was leading the others in a uniform manner and movement. Confirmed at the end with Ivica saying how the children were the Pipers.
Dedication Through Light
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The week off was worth it. I think this has a great balance between a strong good main character (AO was impressive) as well as a compelling and cool antagonist. Its like Truth is just having so much fun with everyone and a good time. So awesome when they made his eyes do that and then smirk afterwards. I dont understand how people can dislike him.
I enjoyed the entire first half or so focused on Ao.
the secrets are pretty dumb, lol, I chuckled when they stopped searching once he went into the tent. I was glad that Ao was able to get over his anxiety and distress quickly and lead everyone. Most characters in the past would have probably been unable to move on for a bit or need to actually be forced to do something by their peers, so this was an interesting route to take
The world building and politics is alright though I think its a bit too deep at times that it goes beyond me.
You know how some people are total badasses while inside a car, but turn into total chicken shits when they're confronted outside of the vehicle? Yeah I think it's something like that!
Long story short this was probably the best episode of Eureka Seven AO since the pilot. I'll put my specific thoughts in spoilers below. I'll categorize them, as well.
The aesthetic:
Ao's character:
The supporting cast:
The political stuff:
Pied Piper of Hamelin:
Haha, that's an awesome way to put it. I was thinking something along those lines, as well. Very meta.
The aesthetic:
This week's episode felt like a throwback to the original series both thematically and aesthetically. In terms of the latter, the sweeping Arizona canyons felt far more familiar than the other settings we've seen so far, particularly after the secret worked its magic.
Ao's character:
Ao got some nice development this week, and more importantly he reminded the audience that he hasn't forgotten about Naru (a major concern of mine). The moment with Truth made it clear that Ao is ultimately motivated by a desire to discover the truth, which is now expounded by his desire to find Naru. There were also some thematic throwbacks to Renton's own character development as the barriers of understanding between "fighting" and "death" were torn down. Ao witnesses death first hand in this episode, and the image of the mannequins hand felt like a wink and nod to the severed arm Renton discovered in the first series.
The supporting cast:
Not a whole lot to say here. In short, less Elena and Fleur meant more development time for the Ivica and Rebecca. I finally feel like I'm starting to have an idea of who these people are, and the hidden complexities and moral ambiguities surrounding their past made me think instantly of the Gekkostate.
The political stuff:
Finally, the political elements of the show feel like they've been given some direction, which makes up for some of the dense exposition. The idea of rallying support for war by twisting and simplifying the ideas that motivate them felt right at home alongside Astral Ocean's complex, post-cold war, corporatist take on warfare. Hopefully the showrunners use that idea to say something meaningful about Generation Bleu, just as the other major political subplot (Okinawa) plays a role in developing Ao.
Pied Piper of Hamelin:
Loved the Pied Piper allegories..felt like something Dai Sato would have done. The first series always felt very heavy on literary and mythological symbolism (The Golden Bough was a recurring motif), so it's great to see Astral Ocean following suit.
Haha, that's an awesome way to put it. I was thinking something along those lines, as well. Very meta.
he wasnt in a car in ep 1! and the people died in a more horrible way
also
didnt the pied piper lead the children off a cliff?
He freaked out too then and ran.
he seems to get over it pretty quickly and get on with tent trains though
Renton had a similar arc, and it affected him over a few episodes. Probably will be similar here. Also, Ao's a maturer, more driven character. It's understandable that he'd be able to get his bearings back a bit sooner, if only temporarily, given the urgency of the situation.
Dedication Through Light
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All the stuff on Renton makes me glad I didnt even check it out. Ao just sounds a bit better, he has been making good choices and what not.
you are missing out. ao is terrible atm compared to the original.
The original is all about Renton's development as an individual. He's a solidified badass at the end.
you couldn't be more wrong
Renton is a pretty likeable dude in E7 from start to finish. It's Holland that's the annoying one.
This. Holland is a massive prick during most of the series. He's kind of like an anti-Kamina.
Episode 11
I really liked this episode, and I'm really excited for next week's episode now. The developments are moving pretty fast, and I felt the events this week were executed really well. I'm really interested in seeing where they go from here, because things could change very rapidly now in just a few episodes.
P.S. The insert song used this week is "Parallel Signs" - it's an original new song by LAMA written specifically for E7AO.
I really liked this episode, and I'm really excited for next week's episode now. The developments are moving pretty fast, and I felt the events this week were executed really well. I'm really interested in seeing where they go from here, because things could change very rapidly now in just a few episodes.
I like how it expanded on the Elena subplot which the show has been foreshadowing for a while now, but did it in a rather unexpected way while making use of another narrative trope in mecha anime - the illusion/possession enemy episode. The combination is really interesting because it gave them a chance to finally tease the "right world" in a natural way without spelling it now. To me, it says "This is definitely a sequel to Eureka Seven, but it might take a little longer to get there. But don't worry, and enjoy the ride."
The "resolution" of the Elena/Miller mystery by the end leaves us with more questions as well as a sense of conclusive change for the character. While we still wonder who exactly she is, it's pretty clear that the roles she has taken on are substitutes in her search for an identity, which also gives more depth to how her personality was portrayed from the start. It's pretty interesting that of all the characters influenced by the Secret, she was the only one who saw the real world... this imo has very serious implications for her true nature.
The episode preview confirms we're going to space next week. Which means Kawamoto is animating the re-entry scene! I can't wait!
The "resolution" of the Elena/Miller mystery by the end leaves us with more questions as well as a sense of conclusive change for the character. While we still wonder who exactly she is, it's pretty clear that the roles she has taken on are substitutes in her search for an identity, which also gives more depth to how her personality was portrayed from the start. It's pretty interesting that of all the characters influenced by the Secret, she was the only one who saw the real world... this imo has very serious implications for her true nature.
The episode preview confirms we're going to space next week. Which means Kawamoto is animating the re-entry scene! I can't wait!
P.S. The insert song used this week is "Parallel Signs" - it's an original new song by LAMA written specifically for E7AO.
TheVampire
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Episode 11
Take us back there!
Take us back there!
Episode 11
I really liked this episode, and I'm really excited for next week's episode now. The developments are moving pretty fast, and I felt the events this week were executed really well. I'm really interested in seeing where they go from here, because things could change very rapidly now in just a few episodes.
I like how it expanded on the Elena subplot which the show has been foreshadowing for a while now, but did it in a rather unexpected way while making use of another narrative trope in mecha anime - the illusion/possession enemy episode. The combination is really interesting because it gave them a chance to finally tease the "right world" in a natural way without spelling it now. To me, it says "This is definitely a sequel to Eureka Seven, but it might take a little longer to get there. But don't worry, and enjoy the ride."
The "resolution" of the Elena/Miller mystery by the end leaves us with more questions as well as a sense of conclusive change for the character. While we still wonder who exactly she is, it's pretty clear that the roles she has taken on are substitutes in her search for an identity, which also gives more depth to how her personality was portrayed from the start. It's pretty interesting that of all the characters influenced by the Secret, she was the only one who saw the real world... this imo has very serious implications for her true nature.
The episode preview confirms we're going to space next week. Which means Kawamoto is animating the re-entry scene! I can't wait!
P.S. The insert song used this week is "Parallel Signs" - it's an original new song by LAMA written specifically for E7AO.
So is it just me, or did you think (just to clarify what I thought I saw)
showing Eureka carrying her to the new world, and the fact that she kept talking about going home meant that she's also from the first world? We still have yet to figure out a lot about her past, but things have definitely gotten more interesting.
I also think that this proves the
split-world
I don't think this proves the split-world theory in a definite way. It only proves that the real E7 world exists out there, but it doesn't really indicate exactly what the nature of this current world is. Could still be a VR simulation! (Lolol)
I think that "Elena" is definitely connected to the original world, or the Scub Coral in some way. Either she was born in the original world, or she has within her something which remembers the old world and Eureka. So to know about that is pretty telling that she's very unique.
I think that "Elena" is definitely connected to the original world, or the Scub Coral in some way. Either she was born in the original world, or she has within her something which remembers the old world and Eureka. So to know about that is pretty telling that she's very unique.
Episode 11
Why isn't it next Thursday yet!
Finally we have blatant confirmation that, yes, the original E7 world is involved somehow. Don't know the specifics yet, but man, to think that all it would take was two seconds of images quickly flashing across the screen to get me that excited...
No comment on the Elena/Miller thing for the time being, since it's clear they still have yet to explain what's fully going on there as well.
No comment on the Elena/Miller thing for the time being, since it's clear they still have yet to explain what's fully going on there as well.
Why isn't it next Thursday yet!
It's because Fleur is the best female character in AO. Excluding Eureka herself of course.
EDIT: Calling it now, Elena is
related to Anemone in some way. I mean there's type theEnd from a few episodes back, a mention of an ancient civilization and the mention of how Elena and Ao are different from other kids. They have to have some similarities. So.... just like how Eureka ended up in this world, maybe Elena or Anemone did? Idon't know...
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