Keru_Shiri
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And that's how it's always been, even before 6th Edition, right?
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And that's how it's always been, even before 6th Edition, right?
divisionbyzorro
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He's not trying to claim that he can "evoke" it with Flash to block before it sacs itself, right? Because that's total bullshit. But if he actually flashes it in (i.e., he pays the extra cost), he can bring it in after you declare attackers as a surprise blocker.
echoshifting
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Inquest <3 <3 <3 +1 devoted reader way back in the day
I love both of these cards...very different reasons but I love them both.
M13 is shaping up to be a damn good set. I'm pretty hyped!
AHAHAHA
And this guy is very interesting, very interesting indeed...
I love both of these cards...very different reasons but I love them both.
M13 is shaping up to be a damn good set. I'm pretty hyped!
divisionbyzorro
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I know brews always lose.
But nothing makes me want to brew quite like Door to Nothingness.
But nothing makes me want to brew quite like Door to Nothingness.
Keru_Shiri
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He was claiming, under pre-6th Edition rules, that he could cast it while declaring his blockers to get around the sac effect. My issue was being able to ever cast instants in the middle of declaring blockers in the first place.
AHAHAHA
Goatse?
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
I'm going to be buying a playset of the elf with bears lady and that's about it so far. I like Slumbering Dragon from a flavor standpoint, but he's unplayable.
echoshifting
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I don't think you could even play an interrupt while someone is/was in the midst of determining how they are going to block, let alone an instant.
It depends on how you're looking at him, great pressure for one mana or a bomb/win condition. He's never going to be terribly useful as a finisher.
divisionbyzorro
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Ohh man.
Slam it down on their end step. Untap and win. It can't fail.
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Slam it down on their end step. Untap and win. It can't fail.
zerokoolpsx
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They gotta reprint either Stifle or Squelch asap!!!
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
He's a good one drop in Limited, almost no question there (although he'd become "bad" if he cost even 2 more). Constructed...eh, I was going to write this off, but on reflection I want to see if there's a R/G strategy to pump him up to five counters quickly and have a 8/8 flier by turn 4 or so.
zerokoolpsx
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Turn 4, you can cast
Slumbering Dragon continues to gain +1/1 counters everytime you're attack or your planeswalker. It can grow way bigger than 8/8 if it lives anyway.
Slumbering Dragon continues to gain +1/1 counters everytime you're attack or your planeswalker. It can grow way bigger than 8/8 if it lives anyway.
Keru_Shiri
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That's what I was thinking. Thank you, everyone, for the responses!
echoshifting
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I'm definitely planning to try something like this, especially with all the great counter stacking in INN block, but I'm not gonna get my hopes up. I'm actually thinking about trying him in R/U and getting hexproof up on him or something, getting a card like that flicked is so damn frustrating.
He is a fucking beast vs. white weenie, provided they aren't packing cloudshift or resto angel...even then I like him a lot for pressure. There are a lot of aggro weenie decks in my play environment, so I'm looking forward to getting him in the mix. He's a decent counter for Thatcher too, come to think of it.
edit: if I'm reading the card correctly you can use him to block as soon as he has 5 +1/+1 counters...he can block that turn, right? Seems like it.
Keru_Shiri
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I really want to make that new dragon work somehow. One idea: Set out Tibalt a turn after the dragon and dare people to attack him.
Seems like a lot of work for 4 possible damage.
It absolutely is. My idea is absolute shit.
But what if you needed four damage to win?
lol
echoshifting
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I cannot wait to ask my opponent if he really wants to wake the dragon again
Ahaha, I thought of this as well.
Keru_Shiri
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I think the main thing is the new dragon reminds me of Kargan Dragonlord, one of my favorite creatures ever.
echoshifting
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I'm thinking Slumbering Dragon, Curse of the Nightly Hunt and Elgaud Shieldmate for my first stab at it...
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
The Shieldmate is good, but I wouldn't run with the Curse. I'm looking at going either R/G/u and splashing for the Shieldmate or R/U/g and splashing for Increasing Savagery, but the GG in the latter is pushing me towards R/G/u
echoshifting
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Yeah I think if you're going to be accruing your counters yourself you are better off splashing blue for the reason you describe. The shieldmate isn't 100% necessary for the card to work anyway, the counters are.
I ran Curse of the Nightly Hunt in my red vamp deck a couple weeks ago, and I was surprised how effective it was for counter accrual. Highly underrated card imho.
I ran Curse of the Nightly Hunt in my red vamp deck a couple weeks ago, and I was surprised how effective it was for counter accrual. Highly underrated card imho.
No, and I don't know
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Nope
Also no. All blockers have to be assigned simultaneously, so when you cast the Cloudshift you're losing your chance to assign "more" blockers
echoshifting
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No, for the same reason described above in the pre-6th Ed. question: you can't play an instant while blockers are being declared. By the time you can play cloudshift, all blockers have already been declared.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Depends on which ones.
echoshifting
Banned
Depends on which lands they are, for one thing, as some color combos are more valuable than others. You'll get a lot of price variance between revised and unlimited, too, and based on card condition. Could be anywhere from $25-$100+ per card depending on these factors.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Bayou can be up to 75 bucks and Savannah can be from 120 to damn near 700 depending on the version and condition.
echoshifting
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I used to have a playset of those fucking Savannahs
Siiiiiiigh. How I wish I still had all my old cards ; ;
Siiiiiiigh. How I wish I still had all my old cards ; ;
Bueno, that'll help my bro out
Also, is there a big demand for me, like if I put one on eBay, would it sell fast, or should I just sell to my hobby shop
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
There is an enormous demand for them. eBay has it's own issues, but a hobby shop will normally give you only a percentage of what they're worth. Considering what they are, a good shop should give you around 75 percent value on them.
Other options are MTG sites, Reddit and, well, here.
echoshifting
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The biggest problem with ebay for stuff like Magic cards is someone can dispute the sale based on a subjective examination of the card's condition and cause you all sorts of headaches. Personally I'd go with a FLGS over ebay, but there are better options.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
I disagree. eBay is the last refuge because of the large number of scammers and the zero protective policies for sellers. eBay is fine if you're buying - it's terrible and dangerous to sell through.
divisionbyzorro
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Yeah - never sell through eBay. I'd rather take a hit selling at a hobby shop and get guaranteed money than worry about a PayPal fight.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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There's plenty of absurd cards/combos that "just win games" if you get them off but you have to get them off.
Which Duals did they decide on for M13?
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
There's plenty of absurd cards/combos that "just win games" if you get them off but you have to get them off.
Which Duals did they decide on for M13?
The m10 ones. Sunpetal Grove, etc
Same allied color ones from M10-12 thankfully. I'm hoping that they'll just stick with this pattern so that buying these will be a nice future-proof investment.
echoshifting
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What kinda price are you guys getting for M13 box preorders? I haven't been able to find a good deal...
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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Blehhhhhhhhhh. All the talk of it possibly getting one of the ravnica sets got me excited.
narcosis219
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I've dumped about 200 junk rares and received like $30 in trade credit at my local cardshop. Not like anyone was going to pay me anything for that stuff anyway nor was I going to use it. I'm quite happy with my Snapcaster and Restoration Angel instead of a box of crap.
=)
I wont be buying any boxes this time around but normally we would buy a case between us and then split the bill. It usually ended up making boxes come out to about 90 each, sometimes 85 if we got a good deal from the shop we ordered through.
Otherwise starcity seemed to always have a decent pre-order price.
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