echoshifting
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This is pretty much how I feel. I wish there was a zero tolerance policy on cheating.
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This is pretty much how I feel. I wish there was a zero tolerance policy on cheating.
The problem with that is that mistakes can in fact happen that just happen to look like cheating. I mean as guilty as this fool seems it isn't impossible that it was a colossal mistake as he has claimed. It is just extremely unlikely.
Keru_Shiri
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At least a year ban, since I'm assuming this is his first offense. Cheating is such a slap in the face to the rest of the attendees, and to the Magic community in general, and this type of behavior needs to be discouraged.
Some people pay good money to get to these events, taking time off, dedicating time and resources to deck building, etc.
Some people pay good money to get to these events, taking time off, dedicating time and resources to deck building, etc.
echoshifting
Banned
Fair point. Perhaps a 3 strikes policy, then? Didn't Bertoncini get 18 months or something despite being caught multiple times? One would think if you made an innocent mistake and were DQ'd for cheating you would be really careful from then on.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
I'd say if not immediate, really the best you can do is a lengthy-ass ban for first offense, and then second one is met with immediate perma ban. Sure, fine, "mistakes" can happen. But not twice in a manner that is indistinguishable from cheating. In this case, even if we believe all the rest of the bullshit the guy spat, he still has no excuse for not alerting the judge immediately...like the guy who was playing that Miracle deck a month or so ago.
Yes, mana pools empty out at the end of every step unless you have a card that grants an effect like Upwelling.
12-24 months would be fair here.
thanks. i realize how i was wasting Icy Manipulators on creatures during my childhood.
as for that cheating video
i dont really watch tourneys. i was kindof surprised to see how they have their hands constantly moving everywhere, even untapping the opponents lands during their untap phase for them just keeping a fast pace. its almost like sleight of hand can become an aspect of the game.
They're on the clock, I think, so they try to do things as fast as possible. Which includes correcting opponent neglect.
And yeah, I was just about to give you an example with Icy Manipulator, tapping down their lands in the upkeep is a very basic lockdown strat.
And yeah, I was just about to give you an example with Icy Manipulator, tapping down their lands in the upkeep is a very basic lockdown strat.
crimsonspider89
Banned
Well nuLili is getting better. Now just let us see those shocklands so grixis control can take over.
crimsonspider89
Banned
If we get shocklands, grixis control is going to be fun. Olivia, nuLili, a bunch of field wipes, burn spells, counter, and draw engines. Maybe One copy of Nicol Bolas and one or two Liliana of the Veil for early game.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
Meh, she's still only so good since it goes to your hand. She would be pretty nuts if she was actually ramp. :/
echoshifting
Banned
Ha, dat art. Wow.
BlewHedgehog
Member
It's not like you're gonna drop her, fetch a swamp, and then let Thrun chew her up. People are going to have to pick their spots, but she'll generate a ton of card advantage through deck thinning, which black desperately needs. It might be interesting to play her in a control deck alongside either Faithless Looting. Merfolk Looter or Amass the Components to dump the excess lands.
Its still crazy card advantage.
She would be so much better with 4 starting loyalty though.
OneEightZero
aka ThreeOneFour
Imagine if you are summoning another player to the game. Planeswalkers are just like you, can be attacked and targeted by cards that target players. Their abilities are usable immediately when they come into play, but the ones that use up loyalty (the number in the bottom right is loyalty counters) can only be used when you have enough loyalty to use them.
Creatures can swing either at you or at them, but you can block the Planeswalker card with your creatures.
I actually ordered a playset of the Duel Deck ones last night. I really don't like the new art that much.
In addition you may redirect direct damage from target player to a Planeswalker they control. You cannot directly target a planeswalker for damage (unless the card says so but they haven't made such a card yet). This may seem like a trivial thing, and it is, but in some cases cards like Ivory Mask would protect not only you but your planeswalker from direct damage. Still can't save them from a Beast Within or an Ob-Ring of course.
Seeing mutilate reprinted is awesome, I expect a ton of people saying NOW MBC is back so I can have some laughs. I'd love a real MBC deck but its never going to happen, not even never maybe, it'll never be back. Still it's a great card regardless. I can see it being very good however if/when we get Rav duals back.
Edit: It's been a while since I've been back here so after catching up on some pages of reading I'd like to throw in my votes for the worst cards ever:
The Glyph Cycle in Legends
The thing is, no matter how bad a creature is, kobolds aside, at least it has the slim possibility of being able to win a game on its own. It deals damage. Mudhole as Siddix mentioned, had its very, very narrow uses. And even One with Nothing was actually seen used in a tournament sideboard ::shudder::.
But these Glyphs? The only thing more useless than these are the Bands with Other Lands from Legends.
But this is what makes Glyphs worse than all: The fact that they rely on other cards to actually do something. Every single one of those cards are godawful and even worse they can only be used on walls. Every single one of those glyphs could be replaced by better cards that actually do something even when Legends was a new set.
I'd rather play Purelace than these cards.
Also if you want some fun, if a little outdated, reading:
The 100 Worst Magic Cards of All Time, by Ben Bleiweiss
OneEightZero
aka ThreeOneFour
Hellion Crucible (Land)
Tap: Add 1 to your mana pool.
1R, Tap : Put a pressure counter on Hellion Crucible.
1R, Tap, Remove two pressure counters from Hellion Crucible and sacrifice it: Put a 4/4 red Hellion creature token with haste onto the battlefield.
OneEightZero
aka ThreeOneFour
He should update this. Excellent read.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
I know it's expensive, but I like Blood Reckoning. Perfect for my black plinky deck.
I imagine this is going to hurt decks that use lots of token creatures.
Exalted decks will love seeing this on the table, though.
echoshifting
Banned
I actually ordered a playset of the Duel Deck ones last night. I really don't like the new art that much.
I'm not sure I do either, but it definitely made me go
Ya know, I thought I had a pretty decent handle on the rules of Magic. Then I stumbled on a mention of the layer system and found this article: http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=judge/article/20091105a
*runs away screaming*
*runs away screaming*
do you win the game by killing the Planeswalker? that number at the bottom right, is that its life points?
It's okay I suppose. It's essentially a functional reprint of Hissing Miasma. That card never really saw play all that much and was at three mana. This was even standard when Selesnya token shenanigans were in the next set. I mean the difference between the two is the splashable cost and the inclusion of attacking planeswalker clause. But at 4 CMC thats just underwhelming of an effect. I'd rather be able to remove creatures from the board at that casting cost.
Though I guess it could have some sideboard applications. Just depends on the decks. Like previoiusly stated, its useless against an exaulted deck. It would be okay against gobbos and yes token swarm decks but here's the thing. What kind of deck would want to play this?
Say you put it in an aggro deck, at 4 CMC thats a bit high of a cost for the effect it does. Its a good card for aggro because aggro decks aren't waiting to block, you're also cutting the opponent's life total so that discourages further attacks.
Control won't like it because again at the casting cost you could just throw down a mutilate and be done with it. Or barter in blood. Or Sever the Bloodline.
In both situations the card doesn't affect the board state. Aggro decks against you will shrug off the life loss and kill you anyway and control decks against you will not care that it has to pay a life to smash you with fatty.
I could maybe see it in a zombie deck in a sideboard against goblins. Maybe. But I'd never pick this card in draft and in constructed there's so many better things to do with your turn 4.
Still, I admit, the idea of the card is fun though, right? It's got nice flavor and it screams, come at me BRO! But really, Hissing Miasma should have just been reprinted even though its missing the planeswalker clause, or if they just kept the same CMC it would be better, but its the 4 CMC that makes me groan.
A better Lord of Atlantis.
My favorite tribe in Blue, so I'm happy. All of these Merfolk running around strongly hinting at Kiora in RTR? Merfolk as new tribe for the UG guild? Hmmmm.
That card is bonkers. If only that you get 8 Two CMC lords in Fish now. Don't for get ol Aquaman himself is legal in Modern because he was a Purple in Time Spiral. In fact, with Aether Vial legal in modern as well I could see Fish really being great in Modern (er I mean more than it already is).
echoshifting
Banned
Not too shabby for 2cc!
I'm a fan of Merfolk and I wish we'd see more of them. Kiora in R2R would be fuck-awesome.
I'm a fan of Merfolk and I wish we'd see more of them. Kiora in R2R would be fuck-awesome.
Keru_Shiri
Member
I really want to like that Hellion Crucible land.
echoshifting
Banned
Me too.
I wish they'd designed it just a little differently.It's still a fantastic limited card.
edit: wait wait wait, I thought it gave you a creature with haste and flying. Pft, fuck that card.
Do merfolk exist in Ravnica?
Not in old Ravnica.
But apparently there were Merfolk in the new Magic comic that I guess is supposed to take place in Ravnica.
And if Kiora gets printed in RTR, it's reasonable to assume that other Merfolk will get printed around her. Would be a neat UG tribe for the Simic guild.
echoshifting
Banned
Not that I recall, but pretty much anything's possible. The first block centered almost entirely around the city (cities?)...who knows what's out in the wild?
There's no wild, all of Ravnica is a huge city.
There's no reason merfolk couldn't exist on Ravnica, maybe the original block just didn't get into them. It'd be strange if they limited creature types to only those they explored in Ravnica block.
What I'm interested in is if the guild mechanics are making a comeback, and if we're getting new mechanics on top of them. It may be a bit messy, but also really cool, especially if new guild mechanics evoked the old guild mechanics in both flavor and function.
There's no reason merfolk couldn't exist on Ravnica, maybe the original block just didn't get into them. It'd be strange if they limited creature types to only those they explored in Ravnica block.
What I'm interested in is if the guild mechanics are making a comeback, and if we're getting new mechanics on top of them. It may be a bit messy, but also really cool, especially if new guild mechanics evoked the old guild mechanics in both flavor and function.
echoshifting
Banned
derp, I shoulda known that one
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Yes. And Goblins and Elves can come back too.
Yeah it's Magic's Coruscant. However, with that flavor text on the Pearl Trident dude, what the fuck is going on in Dominaria? Merfolks rising up, Portals to Oblivion opening (Door to Nothingness, that Doom Portal card), pretty much every race gearing up for some kind of combat, but I'm also noticing some sort of seafarer theme going on... Pirate expansion after Ravnica? rofl
I dig me some merfolk but I dunno. One thing I like about the planes is the strict creature types that exist on those planes. Merfolk on Ravnica feels like Goblins in Innistrad or Humans in Lorwyn. Just doesn't jive with me.
Ravnica is Slavic and Russian and whatever you know, Rusalkas and Baba Yagas in flavor. Do those mythos have Merfolk?
Dude don't laugh. We'll get our pirate set. One day. And all will be awesome.
echoshifting
Banned
Ffffffuuuuuuucckkkk yyyeeaeaaahhhhhhhh
The entire expansion is tinted by red.
Actually I went over the Planechase planes and they all look pretty interesting.
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