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[Izick]

You focus far too much on what you think they're thinking. Maybe you're just a bad reader of people.

I doubt I've misjudged what an entire sex thinks about me.

It'd help if you don't constantly look at every girl as a potential relationship, as I think you've really built up and idealized this whole sort of love at first sight type reaction that doesn't really exist.

Just talk to them and don't think about relationships and don't constantly scan them for body language trying to figure out if they're interested in your romantically.

It's not even scanning really, if someone's more interested in something else, or talking to someone else, then it's clear that they don't want to talk with you or are interested in you. Same thing with quick answers in person, or in text. Same old, same old.

 

[Jhoan]

I was, but none of the girls seemed interested in me. Even though internally my mood was going south, I was still talking to people.

No, you think none of these girls seemed interested in you. For all you know, they were dying for you to talk to them. I think at any social gathering, women are willing to meet new people. I thought the same way back when I was at that lounge last week; I just didn't take the initiative to open my mouth and say a simple "Hi."

What one sees is different from what's really happening around them. Negative thinking reinforces the idea that "they're not interested in me." If you cheer yourself up to the point where you build up confidence and believe that you can do it, then the positive thinking changes it to "I think those girls over there would love to get to know me; I'm going to go introduce myself to them" (I'm channeling my inner Atramental here). It's like someone once told me, if you believe that you're the most confident guy in the room, then you are the most confident guy in the room.

 

[Minamu]

Xun: Is that you in the picture? Did you get my PM?

I had a nice evening with a classmate. We met two cute girls that we spent about 2,5 hours talking to. The seats across the table were the only open seats we could find so we just sat down. Can't remember how we started talking to them really. They wanted to do an after party but for some reason they took the bus home 15 minutes before closing (last bus out of town). We realized that we had never asked for each other's names so we did some fare well greetings before they took off xD Didn't bother with number exchanges, eh. We had lots of fun leading up to it and that's all that matters (free alcohol yet again!).

I think I've been using my usual party friend as a crutch to not talk to people. Now that he's gone home over the summer, things have changed quite dramatically, I'd say. He, and other guys, became my comfort zone that none of us wanted to leave, I think. Now I have nothing to fall back on, which has done wonders.

 

[ianp622]

I doubt I've misjudged what an entire sex thinks about me.

Uh, yes you did. You did it right there. What you did is called "prejudice". Using some examples to generalize to a larger population, and altering your behavior towards them because of that belief.

 

[Vermillion]

They all seemed to be friends, but I wasn't really introduced.

Fantastic - ask them to introduce you.

 

[Izick]

Uh, yes you did. You did it right there. What you did is called "prejudice". Using some examples to generalize to a larger population, and altering your behavior towards them because of that belief.

Yeah that's fair. I should have said I doubted I misjudged what the majority of a sex that I've come in contact with thinks about me.

Fantastic - ask them to introduce you.

They were all doing their own things.

 

[Vermillion]

They were all doing their own things.

Prior to the ladies showing up.

 

[Izick]

Prior to the ladies showing up.

Oh, I guess I could have done that. Doesn't that come off as needy/desperate though?

 

[pgtl_10]

Question: I asked a co-worker out and she was willing to hang out. Later she change her mind because I was probably too strong. Later she told some office activity together but now change her mind. Is this woman interested or should I just be friends?

Could anybody help me with this?

 

[Barrage]

Could anybody help me with this?

I don't wanna be rude, but i'm guessing English isn't your first language. When you said she thought you were "probably too strong", what does that mean? That you were coming on too strong? And could you clarify the whole activity thing?

...Regardless, dating co-workers is a bad idea.

 

[Emwitus]

Do guys here believe in two people maybe not destined to be together but somehow connected? lol Okay, i've known this girl since we were kids(Family friend). We almost dated once, but since she is in a different state , the relationship never got off the ground. That was 5 years ago. Now we communicate on and off even 5 months apart but every time we talk we're both nervous and I just can't seem to forget about her no matter how hard i try. She is indirectly responsible for me not getting into any kind of relationship for 5 years. sad panda.

 

[Vermillion]

Oh, I guess I could have done that. Doesn't that come off as needy/desperate though?

No, they're your friends. Again, good side of the bro code.

 

[Cubsfan23]

So tonight I had my first instance of a woman just handing me her number right in front of her boyfriend. I was getting up to leave the blackjack table that all of us had been playing at, she decided to ask me random questions about myself. Handed me her number. The guy looked half in shock, half-mad, but he knew he couldn't get mad at me as she was the one doing all the effort. I said maybe 3 words to her in 2 hours before I got up to leave.

It's all in your vibe, guys.

 

[The Antitype]

I had a similar situation with this girl that gave me her number on PoF a couple of weeks ago. Goddamn waste of time if they can't even remember your name, who you are and what you look like.

Yeah.

The fun part about the girls you feel you've lost, or you feel are dicking you around... you can turn them into mini social-experiments.

Take this girl for example. I got fed up and called her out on her bullshit. She says 'I'm not a phone person.'

'So you gave me your number because....?'

'I was bored.'

So I'm thinking 'You selfish bitch. Alright, well two people can play that game. I'm going to get some entertainment out of you.'

So I start spamming her with questions, like basic griefing:

What's your favorite sexual position?
What's the most inappropriate place you've ever had an orgasm?
Have you ever fooled around with a girlfriend?
Do you keep heels on during sex?
What's your ideal penis size?
Are you into BDSM?
Have you ever enjoyed a nice spanking?


I'm just rattling these off... anything I've ever wanted to ask a hot chick in the early stages of meeting her.

And as I'm trying the next one, she starts answering:

Doggy
Depends on how he uses it
On a seadoo
Yes
No heels, I like bare feet
No spankings
What's BDSM?


So now the conversation is going pretty good again. Worst case scenario, I'm killing time before drinking by getting a hot chick to divulge some naughtier facts.

 

[luckyboyceo]

Could anybody help me with this?

She sounds hesitant to see you outside of the workplace, which means she's more than likely only going to see you as a coworker/friend. It could change, but as of right now, that's the case.

Do guys here believe in two people maybe not destined to be together but somehow connected? lol Okay, i've known this girl since we were kids(Family friend). We almost dated once, but since she is in a different state , the relationship never got off the ground. That was 5 years ago. Now we communicate on and off even 5 months apart but every time we talk we're both nervous and I just can't seem to forget about her no matter how hard i try. She is indirectly responsible for me not getting into any kind of relationship for 5 years. sad panda.

This is a very dangerous mindset to get into. A lot of us refer to it as "one-itis," which you can google for more information.

I dealt with a similar situation for around 4 years. Eventually, I got to the point where I just went for it, made my intentions known, and told her that if she couldn't handle it now, she was never going to be able to. She decided she couldn't, and I was finally able to move on. It sucked at first but honestly, it was one of the best decisions I ever made. It was a huge weight off my shoulders and I've since met women who are far more amazing and better for me in just about every way.

I'm not trying to deter you from starting a relationship with her, but the fact that she's been indirectly responsible for keeping you out of relationships for 5 years is extremely unhealthy and in a lot of ways, manipulative. You need to do something about it sooner rather than later.

So tonight I had my first instance of a woman just handing me her number right in front of her boyfriend. I was getting up to leave the blackjack table that all of us had been playing at, she decided to ask me random questions about myself. Handed me her number. The guy looked half in shock, half-mad, but he knew he couldn't get mad at me as she was the one doing all the effort. I said maybe 3 words to her in 2 hours before I got up to leave.

It's all in your vibe, guys.

Awesome. Are you going to give her a call or just hold onto the story?

EDIT: Who am I kidding? Of course you're not going to call her.

 

[zethren]

So tonight I had my first instance of a woman just handing me her number right in front of her boyfriend. I was getting up to leave the blackjack table that all of us had been playing at, she decided to ask me random questions about myself. Handed me her number. The guy looked half in shock, half-mad, but he knew he couldn't get mad at me as she was the one doing all the effort. I said maybe 3 words to her in 2 hours before I got up to leave.

It's all in your vibe, guys.

What the hell? Seems strange that she'd do that right in front of her bf.

 

[gazele]

Seen this girl at a party tonight. We didn't ignore each other but we barely talked. I had the feeling that she wasn't comfortable with me talking to her (I wasn't either to be honest) and she didn't come to talk with me like she always did before the "dates". Kinda sucks. I know it was a failure anyway but still... always happen to me with girls I'm genuinely interested in. Also yeah I need more friends, I just don't know how to make some. I'm very outgoing and all but I didn't go to college this year, and shitty part-time jobs with much older peopple aren't exactly the best place to make new friends when you're 23.
I still go out a lot, even on my own, but I never make new friends on these occasions. Usually I just hang with my friends who are still going to college so I know their friends too, but it's not people I'm going to see on my own, they are my friends' friends basically...

Sorry dude, read that whole story and that sucks, women are mysterious sometimes. I'm kinda in the same boat, had a ton of friends in college, no problem meeting girls, but now I'm in graduate school in a new state with no real network and it's hard. I've been lurking this thread a while and relate to a bunch of you guys. Girlfriend and I got together senior year of college, went to Europe together, then tried to do the long distance thing where I messed up some stuff, she wasn't happy and we dragged it out for a few months. Still hurts and I miss her tons but I've been doing pof and okcupid and have met some awesome girls on there. Sorry for the rant, haha.

 

[The Antitype]

What the hell? Seems strange that she'd do that right in front of her bf.

Not if

a) she's a bitch

b) her boyfriend has no backbone


If my gf ever did that in front of me, I'd call her a whore and walk the fuck out of there, leave her to get home herself, and probably not answer her calls for a long time.

That shit is pathetic.

 

[DrBo42]

What the hell? Seems strange that she'd do that right in front of her bf.

He pissed her off and that's her revenge. Immature bullshit. Dude who posted that story, don't waste your time.

 

[SquiddyCracker]

Do guys here believe in two people maybe not destined to be together but somehow connected? lol Okay, i've known this girl since we were kids(Family friend). We almost dated once, but since she is in a different state , the relationship never got off the ground. That was 5 years ago. Now we communicate on and off even 5 months apart but every time we talk we're both nervous and I just can't seem to forget about her no matter how hard i try. She is indirectly responsible for me not getting into any kind of relationship for 5 years. sad panda.

It sounds like the two of you have no chance at getting a relationship, yet are still interested in one.
It doesn't seem to be good for either one of you so I'd suggest either trying to seriously get it together with her, or try your best moving on to another person.

 

[Minamu]

So tonight I had my first instance of a woman just handing me her number right in front of her boyfriend. I was getting up to leave the blackjack table that all of us had been playing at, she decided to ask me random questions about myself. Handed me her number. The guy looked half in shock, half-mad, but he knew he couldn't get mad at me as she was the one doing all the effort. I said maybe 3 words to her in 2 hours before I got up to leave.

It's all in your vibe, guys.

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Awesome. Are you going to give her a call or just hold onto the story?

EDIT: Who am I kidding? Of course you're not going to call her.

Okay, I laughed out loud at this

What the hell? Seems strange that she'd do that right in front of her bf.

No, not really, people give out their number to lots of people. Even those in relationships. Cubs was obviously more fascinating than the rest of the guys.

He pissed her off and that's her revenge. Immature bullshit. Dude who posted that story, don't waste your time.

Girls call us, that's the rule in play

 

[Xun]

Xun: Is that you in the picture? Did you get my PM?

I had a nice evening with a classmate. We met two cute girls that we spent about 2,5 hours talking to. The seats across the table were the only open seats we could find so we just sat down. Can't remember how we started talking to them really. They wanted to do an after party but for some reason they took the bus home 15 minutes before closing (last bus out of town). We realized that we had never asked for each other's names so we did some fare well greetings before they took off xD Didn't bother with number exchanges, eh. We had lots of fun leading up to it and that's all that matters (free alcohol yet again!).

I think I've been using my usual party friend as a crutch to not talk to people. Now that he's gone home over the summer, things have changed quite dramatically, I'd say. He, and other guys, became my comfort zone that none of us wanted to leave, I think. Now I have nothing to fall back on, which has done wonders.

It is indeed, and yeah I did! Sorry I haven't responded just yet.

Also good to hear things are going well!

 

[Minamu]

It is indeed, and yeah I did! Sorry I haven't responded just yet.

Also good to hear things are going well!

I saw someone else with a similar avatar. Is it some new thing going on on gaf? Yeah, things are looking brighter than ever, but it's now Saturday and it seems like no one is going out tonight I'm considering moving back home over the summer because less and less things are happening around here Not that there's anything going on there either. Wouldn't mind free food for a month or two though. And I've never been out downtown in my old town.

 

[Pollux]

Going out again tonight...wish me luck GAF.

edit: I also just want to say I'm in such an awkward place dating-wise right now since i'm moving back to Kentucky from Boston in a month so I don't even really want to ask girls on dates or anything because I know it'll end in a month. It's almost like I'm in dating-Purgatory.

 

[Xun]

I saw someone else with a similar avatar. Is it some new thing going on on gaf? Yeah, things are looking brighter than ever, but it's now Saturday and it seems like no one is going out tonight I'm considering moving back home over the summer because less and less things are happening around here Not that there's anything going on there either. Wouldn't mind free food for a month or two though. And I've never been out downtown in my old town.

It's for some "Real Pic July" thing, or something like that.

Today must be a strange day, since tonight was pretty uneventful for me as well. There was barely anyone out for some reason...

It does bother me how it doesn't feel like I'm making any progress, but I guess I've got to get over it.

It feels draining to my mind, even when I don't go out expecting anything...

 

[Minamu]

It's for some "Real Pic July" thing, or something like that.

Today must be a strange day, since tonight was pretty uneventful for me as well. There was barely anyone out for some reason...

It does bother me how it doesn't feel like I'm making any progress, but I guess I've got to get over it.

It feels draining to my mind, even when I don't go out expecting anything...

it's okay, I regressed today too. Never went out tonight and ended up texting with the girl I mentioned before. Cubs, it's okay, you can kill me xD I'm not too sure what to make of the conversation but it was entertaining at least. She seemed to enjoy it but it's hard to interpret tone in text messages. I got a bad feeling from it at the same time. Weird xD

 

[Etrian Oddity]

Got a cutie's number last night after I gave her a ride (her friends bailed). Seemed like a real sweet and intelligent girl, and we seemed to connect pretty well.

Left her a voice mail after I got off work today telling her it was nice meeting her and she shot me a text saying likewise.

Nowadays I know better to get my hopes up after a lifetime of disappointments, but I do hope this can become something worthwhile.

 

[Unicorn]

Got a cutie's number last night after I gave her a ride (her friends bailed). Seemed like a real sweet and intelligent girl, and we seemed to connect pretty well.

Left her a voice mail after I got off work today telling her it was nice meeting her and she shot me a text saying likewise.

Nowadays I know better to get my hopes up after a lifetime of disappointments, but I do hope this can become something worthwhile.

Just don't hound her.

 

[The Technomancer]

Well last week's lunch date went very well, we hit it off excellently in terms of conversation and had an all around great time, but I'm just not quite sure of the vibe I'm getting off of her. On the one hand I can tell that I clearly didn't set her loins on fire with desire or anything, but on the other hand she's been very active about both initiating conversation with me since and insisting that we need to do something again soon. We're currently working on Fourth of July plans so hopefully I'll be able to get a better read on her attitude then. It would really suck to be..."friendzoned" by someone I perceive as having gotten along so well with though.

 

[Izick]

Ah Gaf, another Saturday passes.

 

[Pollux]

fuck this bullshit. i was out at the club and i wasn't having luck so i was already feeling down, and then my ex starts texting all this bullshit like she wants to meet up because she was at a bar a block away. when i suggested it she started going on about how she was with all these guys and she didn't want to see me or anything. it fucking crushed me. left the bar, got a cab, and am back home and i feel like such a worthless fucking person. after 4 years of dating why the fuck would she do this shit to me. fuck her, and fuck this bull shit. blocking her number right now, de-friending her on Facebook, and doing w/e else i need to do to make sure she can have no contact with me.

 

[Izick]

If she's so popular, tell her to suck a dick and stop talking to you. Pardon my French.

Also, her engaging in conversation with you shows obvious signs that she needed your attention, thus she likely was lonely, and in desperation, thought that seeking you out, maybe even to just try and belittle you or try and harass you, would serve her some sort of sick, twisted satisfaction.

 

[Pollux]

If she's so popular, tell her to suck a dick and stop talking to you. Pardon my French.

Also, her engaging in conversation with you shows obvious signs that she needed your attention, thus she likely was lonely, and in desperation, thought that seeking you out, maybe even to just try and belittle you or try and harass you, would serve her some sort of sick, twisted satisfaction.

apparetnly...just blocked her number and defended her and all mutual friends on Facebook. she's out of my life forever. thank god.

 

[Izick]

apparetnly...just blocked her number and defended her and all mutual friends on Facebook. she's out of my life forever. thank god.

You will be happier for it.

 

[Pollux]

You will be happier for it.

i fucking hope so, bro.

 

[Izick]

i fucking hope so, bro.

Trust me on this. If she was willing to try and poke at you with an emotional stick, what do you think she would have done down the road? Probably worse.

For you there will be many more fish in the sea.

 

[zethren]

No, not really, people give out their number to lots of people. Even those in relationships. Cubs was obviously more fascinating than the rest of the guys.

Maybe I don't pay attention to people I don't know, or maybe I don't go to the places where people who do that go, but I've never known anyone to just hand their number out to someone else in front of a significant other. If my gf did that I'd be pretty damn upset with her, and she would be pretty damn upset with me if I did it too.

Seems disrespectful, to be honest.

 

[Attackthebase]

fuck this bullshit. i was out at the club and i wasn't having luck so i was already feeling down, and then my ex starts texting all this bullshit like she wants to meet up because she was at a bar a block away. when i suggested it she started going on about how she was with all these guys and she didn't want to see me or anything. it fucking crushed me. left the bar, got a cab, and am back home and i feel like such a worthless fucking person. after 4 years of dating why the fuck would she do this shit to me. fuck her, and fuck this bull shit. blocking her number right now, de-friending her on Facebook, and doing w/e else i need to do to make sure she can have no contact with me.

Pure immaturity on her part.

 

[Pollux]

Trust me on this. If she was willing to try and poke at you with an emotional stick, what do you think she would have done down the road? Probably worse.

For you there will be many more fish in the sea.

Yea, I know. It's just that after getting rejected time and again at the club tonight plus that bull shit with the ex, I feel rather dejected. Maybe I'm just not a good looking dude...I dunno. can't really think of another reason why no girl in the club wanted to dance with me. I'm sobering up and feeling even more depressed than I was an hour ago.

I think I'm going to stick to the nice girls at my church who don't go clubbing...I need a nice and wholesome girl, not a club skank. I'm so fucking confused right now.

You want to know how fucked up emotionally I am right now? I've contemplated becoming a priest.

Pure immaturity on her part.

When you back in Boston? Let's do some shots!

 

[UFRA]

Welp. I have succeeded in gaining the interest of a girl that I work with (yes, I'm playing with fire but I don't care, we're both so compatible...it's worth the risk).

She's 12 years older than me, but it doesn't matter to me. So glad to be done using online dating sites, and to actually get with a girl thats like exactly what I want.

 

[georgc]

Well guess I just got finished the worst 2 1/2 months of my life. Let me start at the beginning, my now ex girlfriend of the year and a half all of a sudden after after April 15 decided not to talk to me, see me text, me or whatever I mean we would communicate a few times a week and I would see her once a week. The problem stems from when she met this guy and I just found out that she has been having sex with him since about four weeks after she met him. And that's been going on for maybe about two months. During this time and my she just told me that she was stressed out and very busy and couldn't really do anything with me but she did need me to help pay her bills and everything and take care of her so essentially I was dumb enough to fall for that trick and she just used me for 2 1/2 months. I just wish that I dropped her when I had the chance to avoide causing me all this heartbreak. But I have to move on because I know she's not right for me.

 

[Pollux]

Well guess I just got finished the worst 2 1/2 months of my life. Let me start at the beginning, my now ex girlfriend of the year and a half all of a sudden after after April 15 decided not to talk to me, see me text, me or whatever I mean we would communicate a few times a week and I would see her once a week. The problem stems from when she met this guy and I just found out that she has been having sex with him since about four weeks after she met him. And that's been going on for maybe about two months. During this time and my she just told me that she was stressed out and very busy and couldn't really do anything with me but she did need me to help pay her bills and everything and take care of her so essentially I was dumb enough to fall for that trick and she just used me for 2 1/2 months. I just wish that I dropped her when I had the chance to avoide causing me all this heartbreak. But I have to move on because I know she's not right for me.

Sorry man, I generally know how you feel. Fuck 'em.

 

[LProtag]

You want to know how fucked up emotionally I am right now? I've contemplated becoming a priest.

Dude, get some sleep. Not being condescending or anything, you just really sound like you need it, haha. You'll feel better in the morning (unless you drank way too much).

 

[zethren]

I think I'm going to stick to the nice girls at my church who don't go clubbing...I need a nice and wholesome girl, not a club skank. I'm so fucking confused right now.

Hey man, not my kinda place either. And not my taste in girls, either. I can do without clubs and bars, and many of the people found within. Like you were implying, you need a girl who will treat you right after the one that just treated you so poorly.

But honestly, it sounds like you just need to slow down a little bit and figure things out. Sounds like you're vulnerable right now and, if you were to ask me, going out and trying pick up/dance with girls isn't what you need. You need time to heal, without nights like the one you described where you feel dejected because the club girls didn't dance with you. Take some time and pull yourself together, and go back to the man you were before your ex.

Everyone says "pick up a hobby" or "hang with friends" and things like that, and it's true. You need you time, and time to pick up the pieces and become stronger for it.

 

[Izick]

Yea, I know. It's just that after getting rejected time and again at the club tonight plus that bull shit with the ex, I feel rather dejected. Maybe I'm just not a good looking dude...I dunno. can't really think of another reason why no girl in the club wanted to dance with me. I'm sobering up and feeling even more depressed than I was an hour ago.

I think I'm going to stick to the nice girls at my church who don't go clubbing...I need a nice and wholesome girl, not a club skank. I'm so fucking confused right now.

You want to know how fucked up emotionally I am right now? I've contemplated becoming a priest.



When you back in Boston? Let's do some shots!

Is that you in the picture? Not a good looking dude? Trust me, if there's one thing I know it's being unattractive due to my looks, but you have nothing to worry about man. You seem like a good looking dude to me. I don't know if you workout, but that could probably help you out some as well.

Meeting a more wholesome girl is always good, but I don't know if a church is the way to go. Just try and branch out from friends maybe and meet some women at parties or something.

You don't want to become a priest, you're just associating becoming a priest because you aren't having luck with women for a few nights. A few nights is nothing; try having shit luck with women your whole life. You'll be alright, zmoney.

 

[georgc]

Sorry man, I generally know how you feel. Fuck 'em.

And you know what's fucked up. Doing the whole time that she's using me she's telling me that she loves me so much that if he ever break up that she hopes no other woman would ever use me. It's like she tried to convince herself that she wasn't using you but she knew she was using me but it was these just weird mind games. it really sucks though because I really loved her and with my whole heart and wanted her to have my children. And today when she pretty much told me everything she told me that the guy that she was with the last two in the months have been having sex for a long time that they are talking about getting married already and trying to have a baby all while I'm supporting her and she's just lied to my face. like I've never felt so used and taken advantage of in mind whole life.

Yea, I know. It's just that after getting rejected time and again at the club tonight plus that bull shit with the ex, I feel rather dejected. Maybe I'm just not a good looking dude...I dunno. can't really think of another reason why no girl in the club wanted to dance with me. I'm sobering up and feeling even more depressed than I was an hour ago.

I think I'm going to stick to the nice girls at my church who don't go clubbing...I need a nice and wholesome girl, not a club skank. I'm so fucking confused right now.

You want to know how fucked up emotionally I am right now? I've contemplated becoming a priest.



When you back in Boston? Let's do some shots!

You looks have nothing to do with it. You can pull any kind of female that you want you just have to apply yourself. I know this is probably been said many times but it is about confidence women did that each woman is different somewhat more somewhat less somewhat different things besides confidence there's there's a something that each woman holds more than just looks. And the best place to pick appointment is just in everyday life
You're going down the street or you're in a shopping market and you see an attractive woman talk to her.

 

[georgc]

Dp

 

[Izick]

You looks have nothing to do with it. You can pull any kind of female that you want you just have to apply yourself. I know this is probably been said many times but it is about confidence women did that each woman is different somewhat more somewhat less somewhat different things besides confidence there's there's a something that each woman holds more than just looks. And the best place to pick appointment is just in everyday life
You're going down the street or you're in a shopping market and you see an attractive woman talk to her.

You really, honestly, 100% believe that?

You're saying some super-nerdy guy, or some real fat guy can get with whoever they want to? Hell, not even that, just someone with an ugly face can do that? That's just not true.

 

[LProtag]

You really, honestly, 100% believe that?

You're saying some super-nerdy guy, or some real fat guy can get with whoever they want to? Hell, not even that, just someone with an ugly face can do that? That's just not true.

Looks are a factor, yeah. But seriously, you're really really really hung up on looks from what I've been reading here. You've got to relax.

 

[Izick]

Looks are a factor, yeah. But seriously, you're really really really hung up on looks from what I've been reading here. You've got to relax.

You just don't know, man. I'm just tired of it all; I'm tired of being ignored or overlooked because I'm not fucking handsome or even tolerable for any kind of women I may be interested. I can't help it, I can't blame them though, it's not their fault. It just is what it is.