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Just wondering but wouldn't it usually just be the same people over and over again making new accounts at "new" sites?

Trying to find 'that' person?

I have used POF, and only found assholes so I assume the same assholes are on the other sites.
 
hey gay gaf, I had a question to ask, any help or opinion on what to do would be welcome.

So, I have this "friend" I`ve known for more than a year. We are classmates, he is 8 years younger than me. I`ve sort of had a crush on him. He is really cute, nice and attractive. We had never really been close, but these last few weeks we`ve been texting. He is sort of a dirty minded guy, he likes to talk a lot about sex and stuff but doesn`t necessarily mention girls (every so often he will, but it`s not the focus). I don`t know, most guys here talk like that.

Well, where I live gay is still really taboo and looked down upon. I`m still in the closet. I wanna tell him something, but I don`t know if I should (or what to say even). I don`t wanna say something stupid and be outed. I have some friends who are classmates with him in other courses (courses I`m not taking) that have said they think he is gay. These friends don`t know I`m gay, if they do they hide it well because they are really homophobic

I think he is teasing me!!!! he is driving nuts trying to figure him out.

he even says things that make me think other things like he says, how r u doing boy? thank you boy (it just sounds weird) and stuff like that. and lately he is texting even without an aparent reason. I mean, he usually texts to ask about something.

What do you guys think!!!!?
edit:I forgot to mention that something that lately we`ve been texting for hours which is really odd for straight guys (I think)
 
Just wondering but wouldn't it usually just be the same people over and over again making new accounts at "new" sites?

Trying to find 'that' person?

I have used POF, and only found assholes so I assume the same assholes are on the other sites.

This is true but actually i was talking about the site in general like the layout/porn :)
 
hey gay gaf, I had a question to ask, any help or opinion on what to do would be welcome.

So, I have this "friend" I`ve known for more than a year. We are classmates, he is 8 years younger than me. I`ve sort of had a crush on him. He is really cute, nice and attractive. We had never really been close, but these last few weeks we`ve been texting. He is sort of a dirty minded guy, he likes to talk a lot about sex and stuff but doesn`t necessarily mention girls (every so often he will, but it`s not the focus). I don`t know, most guys here talk like that.

Well, where I live gay is still really taboo and looked down upon. I`m still in the closet. I wanna tell him something, but I don`t know if I should (or what to say even). I don`t wanna say something stupid and be outed. I have some friends who are classmates with him in other courses (courses I`m not taking) that have said they think he is gay. These friends don`t know I`m gay, if they do they hide it well because they are really homophobic

I think he is teasing me!!!! he is driving nuts trying to figure him out.

he even says things that make me think other things like he says, how r u doing boy? thank you boy (it just sounds weird) and stuff like that. and lately he is texting even without an aparent reason. I mean, he usually texts to ask about something.

What do you guys think!!!!?


First, that sucks you live in a closeted environment.

And about that guy... its a bit light on the content (maybe there is more you havent mentioned). But maybe he is just a flirty person? I have known plenty of guys who are straight and talk dirty to me, before AND after they knew I was gay. Some guys just love to tease and are flirty. Doesn't necessarily equal being gay.

His interest in you is something suspect though. I once had a straight guy constantly ask about my sex life in a joking manner before, but it was because he was interested in me (it was his way of trying to experiment with me, hoping i would ask). Is he ever asking about you or does the sex talk involve you somehow. The "boy" talk seems kinda harmless and playful, but like I said not enough to go by if hes gay.

Really not much to go on... and like you said its too risky right now to get outed due to your peers being homophobes. So my advice is it to keep playing along and see if he goes any further in his interests/hints before deciding whether to confide in him that you are gay or asking him if he is bi/gay/whatever.
 
First, that sucks you live in a closeted environment.

And about that guy... its a bit light on the content (maybe there is more you havent mentioned). But maybe he is just a flirty person? I have known plenty of guys who are straight and talk dirty to me, before AND after they knew I was gay. Some guys just love to tease and are flirty. Doesn't necessarily equal being gay.

His interest in you is something suspect though. I once had a straight guy constantly ask about my sex life in a joking manner before, but it was because he was interested in me (i guess he was curious to experiment). Is he ever asking about you or does the sex talk involve you somehow. The "boy" talk seems kinda harmless and playful, but like I said not enough to go by if hes gay.

Really not much to go on... and like you said its too risky right now to get outed due to your peers being homophobes. So my advice it to keep playing along and see if he goes any further in his interests/hints before deciding whether to confide in him that you are gay or asking him if he is bi/gay/whatever.
Yep. I'm sure everybody's had friends who act the same way, so I wouldn't take it as some sort of secret desire on his part. Especially if you're in a place where being openly gay is potentially dangerous, I don't think you should make any advances until you have a great degree of certainty.
 
First, that sucks you live in a closeted environment.

And about that guy... its a bit light on the content (maybe there is more you havent mentioned). But maybe he is just a flirty person? I have known plenty of guys who are straight and talk dirty to me, before AND after they knew I was gay. Some guys just love to tease and are flirty. Doesn't necessarily equal being gay.

His interest in you is something suspect though. I once had a straight guy constantly ask about my sex life in a joking manner before, but it was because he was interested in me (it was his way of trying to experiment with me, hoping i would ask). Is he ever asking about you or does the sex talk involve you somehow. The "boy" talk seems kinda harmless and playful, but like I said not enough to go by if hes gay.

Really not much to go on... and like you said its too risky right now to get outed due to your peers being homophobes. So my advice it to keep playing along and see if he goes any further in his interests/hints before deciding whether to confide in him that you are gay or asking him if he is bi/gay/whatever.

Thanks!!! well, he does seem very flirty, and is still very young. I don`t think I`m going to say anything, but the truth is we aren`t really close or anything. It`s not like we know eachother so much, so why does he talk to me like that?

I would understand he talked to me about boners and stuff if we knew eachother more. Maybe I`m just making too much out of it.

I feel he is trying to tease me to get me to come out or something. It sounds like an agenda lol.
 
Just got back from hanging out with Enrique. He's such a sweetheart, he wanted me to stay the night but he was uncomfortable with the fact that his sister might walk in on us awake in bed in the morning. Unlike the trip to San Antonio where we were automatically in the same bed...

I still really enjoy spending time with him and getting to know him. I wanted to stay the night as well, not just for sex but because I enjoy sleeping and cuddling with him as well.
 
Yep. I'm sure everybody's had friends who act the same way, so I wouldn't take it as some sort of secret desire on his part. Especially if you're in a place where being openly gay is potentially dangerous, I don't think you should make any advances until you have a great degree of certainty.

Yes, thanks for the advice, I guess I`ll just wait to see where things head out.

He is torturing me though cause I really like him and have a have crush (not that I show it openly)

Christ!!! this is driving me nuts. I can`t figure him out.

Don`t you guys find it a bit odd that we text for hours if there`s nothing there?
 
Yes, thanks for the advice, I guess I`ll just wait to see where things head out.

He is torturing me though cause I really like him and have a have crush (not that I show it openly)

Christ!!! this is driving me nuts. I can`t figure him out.

Don`t you guys find it a bit odd that we text for hours if there`s nothing there?
My cellphone is in a drawer turned off, so the idea of people texting for hours in general is odd.
 
Just got back from hanging out with Enrique. He's such a sweetheart, he wanted me to stay the night but he was uncomfortable with the fact that his sister might walk in on us awake in bed in the morning. Unlike the trip to San Antonio where we were automatically in the same bed...

I still really enjoy spending time with him and getting to know him. I wanted to stay the night as well, not just for sex but because I enjoy sleeping and cuddling with him as well.

Lucky guy!!! good that you`re having a nice time with him. You ound like you get along pretty well :)
 
Well I am too fat to go to Provincetown. :(

Nonsense man. This isn't Fire Island. Besides, I believe bear week is currently taking place there.
Go and have fun, stop thinking you're too fat to do anything. If being fat is a problem for you (and it looks like it is) then DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. Change your diet, start exercising, etc.

You'll most likely ignore this but I thought I'd try.

I'm gonna just toss this out again and poll y'all about this, since I forgot the responses last time.

Couple dates and hangouts with one guy (nothing intimate beyond a few kisses) = what kind of assumed (unspoken) exclusivity?

I have my own answer for this but I'm curious what everyone else's is. I'm thinking my answer leans in one direction too much and I'm out of touch with what's expected out there.

Think you got your answer already but do not assume anything, ask. Dating doesn't necessarily imply exclusivity so if that's something that is important to you you should talk to your guy about it.
That said, congrats!

My cellphone is in a drawer turned off, so the idea of people texting for hours in general is odd.

The idea of playing on easy and failing is odd to me too.
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Well, where I live gay is still really taboo and looked down upon. I`m still in the closet. I wanna tell him something, but I don`t know if I should (or what to say even). I don`t wanna say something stupid and be outed. I have some friends who are classmates with him in other courses (courses I`m not taking) that have said they think he is gay. These friends don`t know I`m gay, if they do they hide it well because they are really homophobic

Can we talk about this some more?

If you don't mind me asking, where do you live? It sounds like this school is a pretty hostile environment if you can't find anyone that's an ally.

Also, I've always read that to find out someone's interests covertly is all about asking them things on the subject in roundabout ways. Bring up gay marriage and your stance on it and prompt him for his opinions and what not. You can't really expect any of us to figure out the guy's orientation from a likely biased source. Best route would be to bring up the topic of homosexuality and probe from there.

If you're in the US, starting this should be pretty easy given how Obama brought gay marriage to the forefront of discourse not to long ago.
 
Yep. Roided up men do nothing for me.

I think it's more that his chest muscles are hyper developed given that he's a swimmer more than him being on steroids.

Also the more pressing issue being not the size of his face but its ugliness. Goddamn what an eyesore.
 
I'm torn between loving and hating the film and book evenly.
I know I saw this film at one of the LGBT nights back at Uni, but I can't for the life of me remember most of what happens. Colin Farrell is pretty cute in it from what I do remember though. I'll have to give the book a read so, thanks!

If you're looking for gay protagonists and enjoy fantasy try the Steel Remains and the Cold Commands by Richard K. Morgan. The plot isn't the greatest, but the writing style to be extraordinary.

Also there are explicit sex scenes (both straight and gay). If you like that kind of thing.
Thanks for these Cupric! My Uni library only has Cold Commands. Looking up some reviews I came upon the following quote:
The commentary of Morgan’s books is designed to twist the tenants of “epic fantasy” back on themselves with a gruesome realism, to deconstruct the wish-fulfillment fantasy common to the genre, and at the same time to critique his own use of brutality and extreme violence as something that should not be read as titillating.
Colour me intrigued.

As for explicit sexual content, it really depends on the writer. Some people write some incredibly detailed prose, which really suits describing events and emotions - but then when they turn that talent to writing about sex you end up with a contender for The Literary Review's 'Bad Sex Award'. Even someone like Stephen King, one of my favourite authors, is guilty of this. Surprisingly, I've found Clive Barker to be very good at writing sex scenes, but perhaps that's part of his talent for being inventive and creative with scenarios. There are some (bisexual) scenes in the book Coldheart Canyon involving ghost sex (lol) that spring to mind.

I'm lucky in that my Uni library is a copyright library, which means that they get a copy of every book published in Ireland and the UK. So pretty much any of the more mainstream books you guys recommend I can get my hands on.

Maybe I'm weird but the huge hands were the first things I noticed...
I think you just won Real Pic July. :P
 
The idea of playing on easy and failing is odd to me too.
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why'd you have to go there

If you don't mind me asking, where do you live? It sounds like this school is a pretty hostile environment if you can't find anyone that's an ally.

If you're in the US, starting this should be pretty easy given how Obama brought gay marriage to the forefront of discourse not to long ago.
His profile states that he lives in Costa Rica.
 
Has any of you guys been circumcised as an adult?
I've always had this thing that bothered me on my penis. Today the doctor confirmed me that it's a sebaceous cyst, it's under the head and not really too ugly but it still bothers me. He suggested circumcision as the solution. Obviously the thought of someone butchering my foreskin after 26 years terrifies me.

I thought maybe the doctor would be able to remove the cyst without having to remove all my foreskin but maybe it's just the best way to do it. Or maybe I should just leave it as it is?
 
Has any of you guys been circumcised as an adult?
I've always had this thing that bothered me on my penis. Today the doctor confirmed me that it's a sebaceous cyst, it's under the head and not really too ugly but it still bothers me. He suggested circumcision as the solution. Obviously the thought of someone butchering my foreskin after 26 years terrifies me.

I thought maybe the doctor would be able to remove the cyst without having to remove all my foreskin but maybe it's just the best way to do it. Or maybe I should just leave it as it is?

go on. just leave it. probably will turn into something cute.
 
Has any of you guys been circumcised as an adult?
I've always had this thing that bothered me on my penis. Today the doctor confirmed me that it's a sebaceous cyst, it's under the head and not really too ugly but it still bothers me. He suggested circumcision as the solution. Obviously the thought of someone butchering my foreskin after 26 years terrifies me.

I thought maybe the doctor would be able to remove the cyst without having to remove all my foreskin but maybe it's just the best way to do it. Or maybe I should just leave it as it is?
I just googled "sebaceous cyst" and saw it defined as a "closed sac under the skin filled with a cheese-like or oily material." Cheese-like? That sounds disgusting, and I'd let them circumcise me four times over to get rid of it.

EDIT: Honestly, if the doctor needs to remove your entire foreskin, it sounds bad. If it's just a small bump, it doesn't sound like you have to worry about it, although it could be unpleasant for all parties involved. If it's anything like the results I received when I did a Google Image search for penile sebaceous cyst though, I'd remove it. Some of these things look like tumors.
 
I just googled "sebaceous cyst" and saw it defined as a "closed sac under the skin filled with a cheese-like or oily material." Cheese-like? That sounds disgusting, and I'd let them circumcise me four times over to get rid of it.

EDIT: Honestly, if the doctor needs to remove your entire foreskin, it sounds bad. If it's just a small bump, it doesn't sound like you have to worry about it, although it could be unpleasant for all parties involved. If it's anything like the results I received when I did a Google Image search for penile sebaceous cyst though, I'd remove it. Some of these things look like tumors.
yeah I think I'll just get it done. Next time I go to the doctor I'll ask him if there is a less radical option, he told me to come back in September anyway because he's going on holidays. So it's not like I have to make a decision right now.
I've seen the google pictures and yes some of them are terrifying. I can assure mine is not too bad, in fact none of my lovers ever said anything about it (though I've only had 2, one of them being my ex-boyfriend of 5 years). That's probably why I didn't have anything done before but now I'm single again and I'm sure people can freak out about weird stuff on other people's penises :P
 
yeah I think I'll just get it done. Next time I go to the doctor I'll ask him if there is a less radical option, he told me to come back in September anyway because he's going on holidays. So it's not like I have to make a decision right now.
I've seen the google pictures and yes some of them are terrifying. I can assure mine is not too bad, in fact none of my lovers ever said anything about it (though I've only had 2, one of them being my ex-boyfriend of 5 years). That's probably why I didn't have anything done before but now I'm single again and I'm sure people can freak out about weird stuff on other people's penises :P
I didn't even read the part where you said you'd had it for a while. In that case, if it's not bothering anybody else except you, I wouldn't worry about it. I imagine that the surgery's probably not cheap, and if they were able to find a way to remove it without circumcision, it would be purely cosmetic.
 
Where'd you take the picture?

Cinque Terre in Italy. Place was hotter than hell but rather beautiful.

yeah I think I'll just get it done. Next time I go to the doctor I'll ask him if there is a less radical option, he told me to come back in September anyway because he's going on holidays. So it's not like I have to make a decision right now.

Can they grow? I would google this but I'm not sure I want to see pictures.
 
Cinque Terre in Italy. Place was hotter than hell but rather beautiful.
Googled some pictures and it looks beautiful, and I'm now extremely jealous. I was going to say that the town behind you looked nice, but at the size I wasn't sure if they were actually buildings or just rocks.
 
Damn, that post pics of yourself thread made me realize how many handsome men are posting on GAF hehe! It helps that I love beards though :)
 
Cinque Terre in Italy. Place was hotter than hell but rather beautiful.



Can they grow? I would google this but I'm not sure I want to see pictures.
google says:
Sebaceous cysts are not dangerous and can usually be ignored
If the cyst becomes swollen, tender, or large, your doctor may drain it or perform surgery to remove it.

and also
The cysts may return after they are surgically removed.

So maybe that's why the best option is circumcision. But as previously said it's mostly a cosmetic thing.
 
Googled some pictures and it looks beautiful, and I'm now extremely jealous. I was going to say that the town behind you looked nice, but at the size I wasn't sure if they were actually buildings or just rocks.

Yeah, that's Monterosso and it's not even the nicest of the towns. It is, however, the one at the end of the trail that I took so that's why I'm looking so proud.

not doing anything about it might do that anyways. LOL ;P just go in. lets go with the myth of getting yourself cut will make it look bigger.

Trust him, he's a doctor.

It could become Mara.

Worth it.
 
It could become Mara.

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You know. after reading about the spiral hot dog. i feel like buying some just to design it LOL.
 
Are you offering to him to do it yourself?

I am curious to see what this cyst looks like but there is no way I will be doing it right now since I am at work.
No. Not without proper compensation.

It looks like a lump under the skin, for lack of a better description. You better Google it as soon as you get home.
 
Has any of you guys been circumcised as an adult?
I've always had this thing that bothered me on my penis. Today the doctor confirmed me that it's a sebaceous cyst, it's under the head and not really too ugly but it still bothers me. He suggested circumcision as the solution. Obviously the thought of someone butchering my foreskin after 26 years terrifies me.

I thought maybe the doctor would be able to remove the cyst without having to remove all my foreskin but maybe it's just the best way to do it. Or maybe I should just leave it as it is?

I had a sebaceous cyst a few years ago near the base of my shaft. It scared the shit out of me. I was instructed to take warm baths, and apply heat to the area, which causes the sebum to melt and be reabsorbed into the body. Went away after a week or two. Maybe try that?

The location of yours might make that more difficult though.
 
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