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Dynopia said:
haha, I never even thought of that ... but no, I meant 'the' olympic torch.
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Get your mind in the gutter. :P

Mumei said:
I don't necessarily know that I even need to ultimately get all of the themes to have that effect happen to me, though. I had it happen with Don Quixote when I read it last year, and I would be lying if I claimed to have any real understanding of the literary milieu in which it was written. I know on that it is parodying those sorts of novels (and it really is funny), but without that background I know a great deal of it goes right over my head. Or something like Love in the Time of Cholera, I think any subtext in it went right over my head, but I enjoyed the story and the characters and the prose and the atmosphere and the subtle magical realism elements so much that my sense of not really understanding what he was trying to say (if anything) didn't bother me so much.
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Hm, I've been meaning to give Don Quixote a read. I'm glad to hear that it stands as a book itself as well as serving as satire. I don't remember all the background information from my English lit on it but hopefully it'll come back if I pick it up.

The Rape of the Lock by Pope sounds similar. I hadn't read much epic poetry, having only gotten so far in Beowulf and Paradise Lost, but that poem was really entertaining on its own that even without the excellent satire it was still really enjoyable. I'm often surprised when these classics provide entertainment in their own right without needing all the background context with them.
 
prowler_ said:
and there's like a weird age gap between us (about 6 years), which isn't that weird but when it starts to get serious, it feels like it will be, for me anyway.
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So long as you two are compatible in most other ways, six years is nothin'. I was 18 and my partner 24 when we met, and it gave me some pause at first. But as time goes by, the whole (non-) ssue will enter your mind less and less.
 
prowler_ said:
im 19...
yeah I want to talk as soon as but he is mostly busy during the week and doing it over the phone is just, no.
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As long as he's not 13... :p
But, yeah...
No problems. And you should talk about it in person. Age gap is no issue, and if it hasn't been betwen both during this months; then it's a matter of just (cliché incoming) following your heart (well, both of you).

Stop for a sec, and think if you imagine yourself with him doing..."ordinary things". From just sitting in the couch, spending time together, mall, buying groceries. Communication is key like alwyas, so ..yep...talk!! ;)
 
Mumei said:
Torchwood wasn't nearly as good but it was still enjoyable for all the wrong (right?) reasons.
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Season 3 was amazing and a big departure from the other seasons. It's definitely my favorite. The first season was cheesy good. The second season was an improvement over the first. The fourth season was promising but it turned out to be a turd. The series as a whole is a mixed bag, really :P
 
dragonlife said:
You can just hit ctrl + b, ctrl + i, or ctrl + u.
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Doesn't work for me for some reason.

Mumei said:
lunch, I just remembered. If you are interested in metafiction, have you read Italo Calvino's If on a winter's night, a traveler?
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I'm vaguely familiar with the book, but the only Italo Calvino I've read is his collection of Italian folktales, so I'll check that out. I've been trying to track down the editions with the Yan Nascimbene covers.

dragonlife said:
Season 3 was amazing and a big departure from the other seasons. It's definitely my favorite. The first season was cheesy good. The second season was an improvement over the first. The fourth season was promising but it turned out to be a turd. The series as a whole is a mixed bag, really :P
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Yes, yes, yes. I watched the first three episodes of the first season, the first two episodes of the second (the episode with the woman who has a
sword arm or something
was amazing) and I watched the entirety of Children of Earth. I can't figure out why the Amazon and critical reviews are so negative, because I absolutely adored it.
Of course, once Ianto was dead, I didn't care about the series anymore.
And the one episode of season four that I saw was just offensively bad.

I'm not a big Torchwood fan in general though. I started watching it because I really enjoyed Doctor Who, but both series have been run into the ground. Doctor Who's more unfortunate though, as it started so high.
 
Gonna vent for a bit. Haven't posted in here for a while, but I really just need to write this all out:

I have few gay friends in LA, but I have one friend out here who I'm really close with. When I first met, I thought he might have had a thing for me, but (I hope) that's passed by now.

The really frustrating this about this friend is twofold: 1) He has a propensity to "call dibs" on guys. When we went to this party, he "called dibs" on this one guy before any of us had talked to him, and then got pissed off when I tried to talk to him. 2) He gets insanely jealous about things. Removed from relationships, we are totally cool. But... yeah.

So, he sets me up with one of his friends that I had mentioned I thought was cute. We go on one date, don't have sex, barely make out. It was okay, but I saw the guy a lot more as friends than as a boyfriend. We sort of dialed down our expectations for a future, sort of realized that this wasn't going anyway, we'd be better as friends.

It's also my friend's birthday party last Saturday. Super fun. But then he has this other "straight" friend there who he's moderately close with. They never really hang out, but know each other, etc. We talk the whole night, he comes out to me, we end up making out. I really like this guy, totally into him. The next day, my friend freaks out, says that I took advantage of this straight guy who just came out, that he would never make out with a straight friend of mine who was coming out, etc etc. I apologize, I kinda don't really get why he's mad at me. He says that I broke his other friend's heart (not true, we were having coffee when he was sending me all of these texts messages) etc.

So then, me and his "straight friend" end up texting a bunch. He's really cool. So tonight, he mentions to my friend that he's going to invite me to drinks and if that'd be weird. My friend says yeah, that'd be weird, and then leaves. Then comes back and says some more stuff and says he's being selfish. And then sends him a long email saying that he's always liked my straight friend and how he's mad he had to hear about him hooking up with one of his friends.

So I'm caught in the middle of all of this bullshit, I don't really think I did anything wrong, I hate how stupid this all is because I really like this kid, he's super nice and sexy and funny and I don't like feeling like I'm a bad person if I didn't do anything wrong. Is there something I'm missing?

I usually run on a drama free policy, but this shit is ridiculous. I think I just have a very jealous friend who is manifesting his jealousies in unhealthy ways.
 
Wow, your close friend is a real drama queen and kind of a selfish idiot. It seems like he really doesn't know what hes talking about half the time, and the whole "dibs" thing is just plain pathetic. Imagine if life were that simple: "Oh sorry, you two guys cant like one another, I CALLED DIBS!"

Keep seeing/talking to this guy you like. Your friend can act like a child on his own and no one else will get hurt.
 
The other spectre over all of this: we all work in the same industry (entertainment) and there's a slight "don't burn any bridges" issue looming over all of this. It's all stupid. I'm just a chill guy and I really like this one dude. We're doing dinner and a pilot tomorrow. He's so cool and great, I just don't like dealing with this extra shit on top of it...

Thanks for the comments, GAF. I feel a lot better. He's this hilarious hot and sweet blonde laxer who has an 10 inch cock. Yeah, this is a keeper.

Sai-kun said:
this is an A and B conversation, and your jealous friend needs to C his way out
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Shiiiiiiiiiiiit
 
ivysaur12 said:
The other spectre over all of this: we all work in the same industry (entertainment) and there's a slight "don't burn any bridges" issue looming over all of this. It's all stupid. I'm just a chill guy and I really like this one dude. We're doing dinner and a pilot tomorrow. He's so cool and great, I just don't like dealing with this extra shit on top of it...

Thanks for the comments, GAF. I feel a lot better. He's this hilarious hot and sweet blonde laxer who has an 10 inch cock. Yeah, this is a keeper.



Shiiiiiiiiiiiit
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Oh shit.

SoCal artificial drama!! :(
 
Seriously though, ivy! That's exactly what I was thinking as I read your story. Your friend seriously needs to just get over himself and chill.
 
RoadieTMA said:
Oh shit.

SoCal artificial drama!! :(
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A bit. It's complicated and not artificial, at least not for me. The "gay mafia" in the industry is really helpful for networking, but it also makes it a bit incestuous. I usually don't date guys in the industry for this exact reason -- if it goes south, things could get ugly. But I *really* like this guy (I'll try to get a pic, he has no tagged pics on fb). Totally worth it. He's a catch.

Sai-kun said:
Seriously though, ivy! That's exactly what I was thinking as I read your story. Your friend seriously needs to just get over himself and chill.
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I think he will, in time. We need to get him laid. Anyone in LA?
 
ivysaur12 said:
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I usually run on a drama free policy, but this shit is ridiculous. I think I just have a very jealous friend who is manifesting his jealousies in unhealthy ways.
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Sorry, how old is your friend? Someone should point out that many high school students are more mature than this.

Personal rant - but this is the sort of stereotypical thing that annoys me about gay groups and generally drives me away from them. It's so unnecessarily dramatic. I don't know what the personal issues are with your friend but he really needs to get caught up with reality.

ivysaur12 said:
I think he will, in time. We need to get him laid. Anyone in LA?
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Don't go into sales.
 
ivysaur12 said:
A bit. It's complicated and not artificial, at least not for me. The "gay mafia" in the industry is really helpful for networking, but it also makes it a bit incestuous. I usually don't date guys in the industry for this exact reason -- if it goes south, things could get ugly. But I *really* like this guy (I'll try to get a pic, he has no tagged pics on fb). Totally worth it. He's a catch.
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You're only 25 right? It's not so bad. You have more "power" than I think you think you do, and don't let your friend get an inch of it.

(It would help if you had a bigger support team, but...) Don't respond to his crazy ass texts. Don't respond to his crazy ass emails. If your friend is an actor or performer of any kind, he has way, way more to lose in this situation than you do. If he implodes, you don't want any of the fallout from it on your skin.

Stay friends with him, have fun with him, keep him as a contact for sure, but if the conversation ever goes toward the area of the new guy you're hanging with, change the subject. Don't give your friend the control over your new relationship he wants.

He's in LA. He can get laid. Easily. But he needs someone to sit his ass down somewhere. By the way, that person should not be you.

And next time (if there is one), be very, very cautious about dating friends of friends in the industry. It never leads to anything good, because certain people can't handle things like adults. And certain people have no issue with ending your career over an entirely personal matter. But your situation happens all the time, just don't engage in the drama.
 
Just dropping by and saying hi. I also have a question for you all (I hope I don't come across as retarded, sometimes I have trouble getting my point across)

I was just wondering, for gay & lesbian people, does the thought of being with the opposite sex repulse you (similar to heterosexuals), or is it different in that people of the opposite sex neither excite you or repulse you(something completely different)?
 
PK Gaming said:
Just dropping by and saying hi. I also have a question for you all (I hope I don't come across as retarded, sometimes I have trouble getting my point across)

I was just wondering, for gay & lesbian people, does the thought of being with the opposite sex repulse you (similar to heterosexuals), or is it different in that people of the opposite sex neither excite you or repulse you(something completely different)?
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I don't think 'repulse' is the right word. It has such a negative tone that it almost sounds as a gay militant. Although I don't like it, I'm not against the opposite sex or against being with the opposite sex, if that makes sense... Let's just say I feel 'neutral' when I'm with the oppositie sex :)
 
PK Gaming said:
Just dropping by and saying hi. I also have a question for you all (I hope I don't come across as retarded, sometimes I have trouble getting my point across)

I was just wondering, for gay & lesbian people, does the thought of being with the opposite sex repulse you (similar to heterosexuals), or is it different in that people of the opposite sex neither excite you or repulse you(something completely different)?
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In the abstract, I am neutral about it. If I happen to see it (stupid Sex & Sociology class showing porn all the time...), though, I feel more than a bit of eye twitching squick.

I don't know if that's the projector-sized genitalia or if I would also feel that way with them on my computer screen, but there you are.
 
ivysaur12 said:
Gonna vent for a bit. Haven't posted in here for a while, but I really just need to write this all out:

I have few gay friends in LA, but I have one friend out here who I'm really close with. When I first met, I thought he might have had a thing for me, but (I hope) that's passed by now.

The really frustrating this about this friend is twofold: 1) He has a propensity to "call dibs" on guys. When we went to this party, he "called dibs" on this one guy before any of us had talked to him, and then got pissed off when I tried to talk to him. 2) He gets insanely jealous about things. Removed from relationships, we are totally cool. But... yeah.

So, he sets me up with one of his friends that I had mentioned I thought was cute. We go on one date, don't have sex, barely make out. It was okay, but I saw the guy a lot more as friends than as a boyfriend. We sort of dialed down our expectations for a future, sort of realized that this wasn't going anyway, we'd be better as friends.

It's also my friend's birthday party last Saturday. Super fun. But then he has this other "straight" friend there who he's moderately close with. They never really hang out, but know each other, etc. We talk the whole night, he comes out to me, we end up making out. I really like this guy, totally into him. The next day, my friend freaks out, says that I took advantage of this straight guy who just came out, that he would never make out with a straight friend of mine who was coming out, etc etc. I apologize, I kinda don't really get why he's mad at me. He says that I broke his other friend's heart (not true, we were having coffee when he was sending me all of these texts messages) etc.

So then, me and his "straight friend" end up texting a bunch. He's really cool. So tonight, he mentions to my friend that he's going to invite me to drinks and if that'd be weird. My friend says yeah, that'd be weird, and then leaves. Then comes back and says some more stuff and says he's being selfish. And then sends him a long email saying that he's always liked my straight friend and how he's mad he had to hear about him hooking up with one of his friends.

So I'm caught in the middle of all of this bullshit, I don't really think I did anything wrong, I hate how stupid this all is because I really like this kid, he's super nice and sexy and funny and I don't like feeling like I'm a bad person if I didn't do anything wrong. Is there something I'm missing?

I usually run on a drama free policy, but this shit is ridiculous. I think I just have a very jealous friend who is manifesting his jealousies in unhealthy ways.
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is your friend 15 years old? because I think your friend is 15 years old. my advice is to find friends who aren't 15 years old, literally or figuratively. especially figuratively.
 
Mumei said:
lunch, I just remembered. If you are interested in metafiction, have you read Italo Calvino's If on a winter's night, a traveler?



Mmhm.

I don't necessarily know that I even need to ultimately get all of the themes to have that effect happen to me, though. I had it happen with Don Quixote when I read it last year, and I would be lying if I claimed to have any real understanding of the literary milieu in which it was written. I know on that it is parodying those sorts of novels (and it really is funny), but without that background I know a great deal of it goes right over my head. Or something like Love in the Time of Cholera, I think any subtext in it went right over my head, but I enjoyed the story and the characters and the prose and the atmosphere and the subtle magical realism elements so much that my sense of not really understanding what he was trying to say (if anything) didn't bother me so much.



I don't believe it. And I have seen everything of the Doctor Who reboot up until the most recent season (which I haven't seen), I think, and about the same amount of Torchwood. Torchwood wasn't nearly as good but it was still enjoyable for all the wrong (right?) reasons.

And to the spoiler tag: So creepy.
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But! But! That's my favorite one! It explains River Song's story, who is my favorite companion.
 
Ivy babe, I'd tell the 10 inch dude to not talk to the other one personally. But because you're in the same industry, I'd suggest not going that route and simply ignore the one dude. He'll crash and burn eventually.

But get a 9mm handgun and sleep with it under your pillow for the next few months to be safe. Dude sounds cray.
 
PK Gaming said:
I was just wondering, for gay & lesbian people, does the thought of being with the opposite sex repulse you (similar to heterosexuals), or is it different in that people of the opposite sex neither excite you or repulse you(something completely different)?
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Though I'm not being posed the question, I've talked to a couple of gay guys that were pretty repulsed by the thought of sex with a woman. But I'm curious about your assertion most heterosexuals find gay sex repulsive. Many of my friends are pretty apathetic to gay sex (some actually seem rather curious about it).

Dany M said:
I can still respect respect a nice pair of boobies.

They do nothing to me though.
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Hah, I don't know what it is, but this makes me smile.
 
Thanks for the varying responses, I really appreciate it.

BeesEight said:
Though I'm not being posed the question, I've talked to a couple of gay guys that were pretty repulsed by the thought of sex with a woman. But I'm curious about your assertion most heterosexuals find gay sex repulsive. Many of my friends are pretty apathetic to gay sex (some actually seem rather curious about it).



Hah, I don't know what it is, but this makes me smile.
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Repulsed was probably too strong of a word, i'm sorry for that. I wasn't referring to the act of having gay sex as repulsive, but rather, the idea of having sex with the same gender despite being a heterosexual. It was a general statement anyway, I wouldn't even say I'm repulsed by it (mildly put off, is a better word to describe I how feel about it)
 
PK Gaming said:
Repulsed was probably too strong of a word, i'm sorry for that. I wasn't referring to the act of having gay sex as repulsive, but rather, the idea of having sex with the same gender despite being a heterosexual. It was a general statement anyway, I wouldn't even say I'm repulsed by it (mildly put off, is a better word to describe I how feel about it)
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No worries, I wasn't offended or anything. Like I mentioned, I've met enough people from either side of the fence that is put off by the thought of sex with the other (gay guys towards woman, straight guys towards men). It's just been my experience that it's not ubiquitous for the idea to be universally unsettling.

Par example - I had a co-worker in one of my jobs that got hugely interested in my experiences when I told him I was bi. This guy was straight and had a girlfriend but expressing quite a lot of curiosity towards sex with men. He did not seemed uncomfortable with the idea in the least.

But then again, I'm bi and think all you people are weird for not liking both. :P
 
BeesEight said:
But then again, I'm bi and think all you people are weird for not liking both. :P
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Guys, this is not really gay related but since this is an international community I might as well ask here for a favor. After searching for years I finally found this animation I was looking for, I saw this when I was a child, and now I want to know more about it. The youtube video I found has an introduction, in what I can only guess is german, but I'm not sure, could anyone be kind enough to translate that for me, please? is not very long.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBOEW4f9mOA&feature=related
 
Unfortunately, she knew.

Yeah, she already knew.

Sometimes I forget I have her on my Facebook.

That made it anti-climatic.

At least know I know that she knows.
 
Also, can any of you guys find any rudeness in something that just happened to me?

To explain what happened, my boyfriend likes to nickname people, and he nicknamed me Rommel. Now, I have no problem with this, but right now, I'm kind of annoyed, so I asked him if he would mind just calling me Aiko.

And now another user in the chat starts saying I'm being rude and I shouldn't be telling him what to do.

So, can someone explain to me how "Hey, I'm in a bit of a bad mood, so do you mind not using my nickname?" is rude?
 
mantidor said:
Guys, this is not really gay related but since this is an international community I might as well ask here for a favor. After searching for years I finally found this animation I was looking for, I saw this when I was a child, and now I want to know more about it. The youtube video I found has an introduction, in what I can only guess is german, but I'm not sure, could anyone be kind enough to translate that for me, please? is not very long.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBOEW4f9mOA&feature=related
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The begining is in french and the guy is just saying it's the end of the first part of the anima-animation night but that you should stay seated because it'll come back after the night news, so be careful. All of this is said in a extremely ominous tone for some reasons.
 
Dany M said:
I've seen my new physics Prof. on grindr, lol
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Lucky you. I love finding people I know on gay sites. Unfortunately, that's so unbelievably rare.
Aiko Heiwa said:
Unfortunately, she knew.

Yeah, she already knew.

Sometimes I forget I have her on my Facebook.

That made it anti-climatic.

At least know I know that she knows.
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I sometimes think it's best if they somehow already knew. The transition is probably a lot smoother for them. Anti-climactic is better than tears and yelling. Anyway, congratulations!
 
Alrus said:
The begining is in french and the guy is just saying it's the end of the first part of the anima-animation night but that you should stay seated because it'll come back after the night news, so be careful. All of this is said in a extremely ominous tone for some reasons.
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Thank you!

but why are the comments in german? you european folk and your multiple language education, I honestly envy you, everyone I've met from those parts knows at least basic german, english and at least one romance language, be it spanish, french or italian. It's not like they are fluent, but the have the basics. Here in America (the continent) you are already above most if you know badly a second language.
 
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