The Dark Knight Rises |OT| The Legend Ends (Warning: Unmarked Spoilers Within)

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I dunno. I should go re watch Prestige. But I think the big reason it makes an impact for a lot of people is the 'clevvveerrr twwwiissstt.'

its not the twist, its the build up.

The best thing about prestige is the emotional investment he makes the viewer get towards two people who will do anything to achieve their ambitions, even if it means doing something inconvievable. They were so true to their art they were willing to destroy themselves..literally to get ahead of one another
 
I am not surprised by Scullis review, I mean look at the review of the AP critic, she always gives big blockbusters positives yet she didnt like it, similarly some others. But some other critics have called it much more positive


Went through all the reviews up to now more thoroughly


34% say On Par with TDK/BB (fav of the 2) 38 *

21% say Exceeds TDK/BB (fav of the 2) 23 *

44% say Not as Good as TDK/BB (fav of the 2) 48 *



* Includes both positive and negative reviews

You look like a man who takes these reviews too seriously.
Do you want my opinion?

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Do you want my opinion? You need to lighten up.
 
The Prestige, for what it's trying to accomplish, is a pretty perfect film. Editing, cinematography, sound, acting, story, structure...Nolan's best, IMO!
 
Real Talk:

The two Gaffers who I would expect to give the most rationale and best review for this film would be negative nancy Jett (who will rightfully shit on this if it is shit and praise this if it is good) and Dan. Dan's P.O.V seems very neutral overall.

Solo's review will be fun just because of all dat 6/10 Nolan trolling. I mean I expect him to bring up some legitimate points, but he (like Sculli) is too self-aware of his Bat-GAF celebrity status. I look forward to your review (for the lols) but expect much exaggeration too. Similarly, DMczaf's will be too defensive about the film (he is bat-gaf's white knight).

Amirox's review is also worth checking out - he was spot on about TDK and Inception.
 
A couple of good friends of mine adore Eyes Wide Shut. It's their favorite movie of 1999, a year that contains The Matrix, Three Kings, American Beauty, The Talented Mr. Ripley, Fight Club, Magnolia, The Insider, The Sixth Sense, Toy Story 2, The Green Mile, Being John Malkovich, etc among of host of popular favorite movie choices for that year.

edit: Oh, and Bringing Out the Dead. The one Scorsese movie that nobody seems to like but me :(
 
A Clockwork Orange > 2001 > Barry Lyndon > Dr Strangelove > Paths of Glory > The Shining > Eyes Wide Shut > Lolita > Spartacus > The Killing > Full Metal Jacket
 
Real Talk:

The two Gaffers who I would expect to give the most rationale and best review for this film would be negative nancy Jett (who will rightfully shit on this if it is shit and praise this if it is good) and Dan. Dan's P.O.V seems very neutral overall.

Solo's review will be fun just because of all dat 6/10 Nolan trolling. I mean I expect him to bring up some legitimate points, but he (like Sculli) is too self-aware of his Bat-GAF celebrity status. I look forward to your review (for the lols) but expect much exaggeration too. Similarly, DMczaf's will be too defensive about the film (he is bat-gaf's white knight).

Amirox's review is also worth checking out - he was spot on about TDK and Inception.

tee hee
 
I think Nolan's popular because he's "gritty". Actually he's got nothing on the real "gritty" directors like Mann, Scorsese and Melville, but he's got the commercial appeal (Batman played a heavy role in that).

Actually, I think most of his movies are, like someone's idea expressed earlier, some kind of well-done pre-Village Shyamalan movies (and maybe not even as visually interesting). But Unbreakable is better than any Batman flick, though, from what I remember... Maybe I should watch it again, though, it's been a while.
edit: Oh, and Bringing Out the Dead. The one Scorsese movie that nobody seems to like but me :(
BOTD is pretty awesome from what I remember of my single viewing.
 
I disagree with literally 99% of everything Jett says. Way too harsh on things. People give way too much credence to negative opinions, as if they're more credible or something. Like they have more refined taste and spot things others don't.
 
I disagree with literally 99% of everything Jett says. Way too harsh on things. People give way too much credence to negative opinions, as if they're more credible or something.
Yuuuuuuup.
You know, I never rarely do this but his tag is kinda accurate, lol

Also amirox will treat his oppinion as fact, I was getting headaches in breaking bad thread because of him :p
 
People give way too much credence to negative opinions, as if they're more credible or something. Like they have more refined taste and spot things others don't.
I think the general public has gotten less and less selective in their entertainment in the last 20 years or so, though, so maybe that plays into the credence given to negative opinions.
 
I have seen Jett on the Gaming side in the DmC thread and he has been fairly positive on that game.. a game that usually gets more hate than love.

*shrugs*
 
I think the general public has gotten less and less selective in their entertainment in the last 20 years or so, though, so maybe that plays into the credence given to negative opinions.
Nothing to do with that.

We never had the internet for each asshole to share extremes of opinions. The most extreme ring the loudest.
 
Real Talk:

The two Gaffers who I would expect to give the most rationale and best review for this film would be negative nancy Jett (who will rightfully shit on this if it is shit and praise this if it is good) and Dan. Dan's P.O.V seems very neutral overall.

Solo's review will be fun just because of all dat 6/10 Nolan trolling. I mean I expect him to bring up some legitimate points, but he (like Sculli) is too self-aware of his Bat-GAF celebrity status. I look forward to your review (for the lols) but expect much exaggeration too. Similarly, DMczaf's will be too defensive about the film (he is bat-gaf's white knight).

Amirox's review is also worth checking out - he was spot on about TDK and Inception.

Actually its a good thing about Scullis review,

his fav film like many others is BB, majority (80% think its TDK).

Seeing that Nolan has taken the moderate best of BB in the eyes of audiences and upped the scaled of TDK to 10x in TDKR, I think GA will view this movie on Par with TDK.
 
I kinda like that Kubrick ratings are always all over the board. Some people love 2001, others think he peaked with Paths of Glory, some only really like The Shining or Eyes Wide Shut. He doesn't have any movie that everybody kinda hates and forgets about near the bottom of the list, like Always and 1941 for Spielberg, or all that crap F. Coppolla or R. Scott made after their early classics.
 
Curmudgeon Jeff Wells loved it:

http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/2012/07/propulsive_disc.php

Christopher Nolan's The Dark Knight Rises (Warner Bros., 7.20) is the first superhero flick in a long time to have won me over so completely that it made me feel like a geek. It felt so overwhelmingly effective that I just folded up my crabby attitude and put it in a Fed Ex package and sent it off to a p.o. box in New Jersey. Ultra-disciplined pacing, dialogue that is clear and true and adds up (and which you can actually understand except for occasional Bane moments), breathtaking IMAX footage, whomping aural impact and an exhilarating movie-ish euphoria...Nolan wins, I capitulate, and Marshall Fine and the naysayers are just too picky and picayune.

Every line of dialogue, every shot, and every cut counts in this thing. The sheer discipline that went into The Dark Knight Rises got me off more than anything else. It's made of high-quality fibre and is densely and expertly threaded like a world-class T-shirt. And it is eighteen or nineteen times better than either of the Joel Schumacher or Tim Burton Batman films. When they say "stop your bitching and just kick back and enjoy it for the movie-movieish wows and adrenaline highs," this is the kind of film they're referring to -- this is the gold and silver and bronze standard rolled into one.

TDKR is tight, tight, tight, tight. It breathes and moves and doesn't feel turgid but God, it's like it began as a four-hour movie and somehow Nolan whittled it down to 165 minutes. I can't imagine how Nolan could tell the story he's chosen and cram it all into a two-hour running time. It flew right the hell by, I can tell you that. (I was furious that I was forced to hit the head at the 75-minute mark.) And when something is flying by (as opposed to plodding or jogging by), you just stop caring about the problems and the speed-bumps, which TDKR certainly has if you really wanna go there.

Kind of shocked at his response, knowing his general distaste for blockbusters and superhero films.
 
Nothing to do with that.

We never had the internet for each asshole to share extremes of opinions. The most extreme ring the loudest.
That is also true. But as a child of the early 80s, I can definitely say without doubt that the general quality of Hollywood movies has gone down in the last decade and a half.
 
now THAT's pretty surprising.

This is what I was refering to Nolan seems to have a movie which is completely different directionwise from BB and TDK, essentially manipulating views and implying the consistenty of reviewers in the trilogy will not be there. someone who disliked the previous movie or the previous 2 seem to be liking it and some are disliking it after liking BB and/or TDK
 
I kinda like that Kubrick ratings are always all over the board. Some people love 2001, others think he peaked with Paths of Glory, some only really like The Shining or Eyes Wide Shut. He doesn't have any movie that everybody kinda hates and forgets about near the bottom of the list, like Always and 1941 for Spielberg, or all that crap F. Coppolla or R. Scott made after their early classics.
Kubrick is more of an "auteur" director than all those are, though. I see him more in the vein of Fellini, Bergman and Ozu (albeit with some studio work in his early stuff) than as a Spielberg or a Scott, which makes his body of work more... evenly interesting, I guess.
 
Does this mean TDKR isn't a superhero movie if Jeff Wells loves it? He HATES every single superhero movie ever made. All of them.
 
This thread is a fucking roller coaster.

"Movie feels bloated... not as good as previous Batman movies"

"Movie deserves Oscars! Makes Avengers look like Dog shit! Ultra disciplined pacing!"

WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE IN??? HUNH?

WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE IN?????

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did no one see my gif?

goddamnit man i spent 34 hours on this shit

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lol

This thread is a fucking roller coaster.

"Movie feels bloated... not as good as previous Batman movies"

"Movie deserves Oscars! Makes Avengers look like Dog shit! Ultra disciplined pacing!"

WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE IN??? HUNH?

WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE IN?????

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he believes in Michael Scofield.

joker doesn't.
 
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