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The Dark Knight Rises |OT| The Legend Ends (Warning: Unmarked Spoilers Within)
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I'm back home, so I'm going to expand upon it some more.
TDKR definitely fills the "epic conclusion to a trilogy" quota. The stakes are higher, the action has weight, events come around full circle, characters are pushed to their limits etc. A lot of people have been bashing it for being too slow or plodding, but I didn't feel this way. It is a talky movie, but the performances from everyone were top notch. This is Bale's best performance as Batman, and those who felt that TDK took away too much of his focus should like this film. It's not split into thirds like TDK with almost even focus on Batman/Dent/Joker, this is definitely primarily a Batman film. Bale is definitely more challenged this time with the character and doesn't disappoint. The other cast members also don't hold back. Hathaway will make you a believer with her very first scene. If you are bored, go ahead and gather up all the hater posts about Hathaway being a bad choice for Catwoman because it's going to be one of the biggest crow eating moments in a long time. JGL is also a stand-out. On paper you'd think it's a fairly typical role, but he makes the character interesting and is someone you grow into rooting for. Hardy certainly has the toughest role in the film, he has to live up to an Oscar-winning performance of Batman's most famous villain with half his face covered. Hardy played his character the way he should have been played. He is certainly intimidating in each of his scenes, and his action sequences with Batman are brutal. I'm not going to lie though, there are some moments where I had no idea what he was saying. There are times when he is crystal clear, but other times I swear he just said "Bluabelbaleushelfub." I also have to give credit to Michael Caine, who doesn't have a lot of screen time compared to the other films, but he certainly doesn't phone it in and pulls out emotional body slams in every scene he's in.
Nolan's direction is also superb in this film, and the improvement of his action scenes from BB to TDKR is remarkably noticeable. Yes, there are about half a dozen helicopter shots of the landscape if you're into that sort of thing (but not as eye-catching as Inception's). The set pieces in this film are some of the most memorable in the trilogy, and there are iconic scenes and shots throughout. Not to mention I can definitely think of many scenes that will be gif'd by Saturday.
There are a lot of interesting ideas thematically. I feel the evolution of Bruce Wayne is a highlight. There are some moments scattered about that may or may not be political references and what not, but like many good stories, the characters really drive the film. However, there were quite a few parts where I thought, "... I don't know about that..." and this is definitely an easy movie to nitpick to hell (which I'm sure you guys will). Yes, that scene didn't really make sense. And that storyline was confusing. What was the point of that part again? You will have these thoughts. That's what really keeps it from being up to TDK quality.
Overall, if you enjoyed the Nolan Batman series, I can't see how you won't enjoy this film. I guess disappointment is relative, but I had high hopes for this film and I walked out of the theatre pleased. The ending is certainly awesome and that last shot... oh boy.
TDKR definitely fills the "epic conclusion to a trilogy" quota. The stakes are higher, the action has weight, events come around full circle, characters are pushed to their limits etc. A lot of people have been bashing it for being too slow or plodding, but I didn't feel this way. It is a talky movie, but the performances from everyone were top notch. This is Bale's best performance as Batman, and those who felt that TDK took away too much of his focus should like this film. It's not split into thirds like TDK with almost even focus on Batman/Dent/Joker, this is definitely primarily a Batman film. Bale is definitely more challenged this time with the character and doesn't disappoint. The other cast members also don't hold back. Hathaway will make you a believer with her very first scene. If you are bored, go ahead and gather up all the hater posts about Hathaway being a bad choice for Catwoman because it's going to be one of the biggest crow eating moments in a long time. JGL is also a stand-out. On paper you'd think it's a fairly typical role, but he makes the character interesting and is someone you grow into rooting for. Hardy certainly has the toughest role in the film, he has to live up to an Oscar-winning performance of Batman's most famous villain with half his face covered. Hardy played his character the way he should have been played. He is certainly intimidating in each of his scenes, and his action sequences with Batman are brutal. I'm not going to lie though, there are some moments where I had no idea what he was saying. There are times when he is crystal clear, but other times I swear he just said "Bluabelbaleushelfub." I also have to give credit to Michael Caine, who doesn't have a lot of screen time compared to the other films, but he certainly doesn't phone it in and pulls out emotional body slams in every scene he's in.
Nolan's direction is also superb in this film, and the improvement of his action scenes from BB to TDKR is remarkably noticeable. Yes, there are about half a dozen helicopter shots of the landscape if you're into that sort of thing (but not as eye-catching as Inception's). The set pieces in this film are some of the most memorable in the trilogy, and there are iconic scenes and shots throughout. Not to mention I can definitely think of many scenes that will be gif'd by Saturday.
There are a lot of interesting ideas thematically. I feel the evolution of Bruce Wayne is a highlight. There are some moments scattered about that may or may not be political references and what not, but like many good stories, the characters really drive the film. However, there were quite a few parts where I thought, "... I don't know about that..." and this is definitely an easy movie to nitpick to hell (which I'm sure you guys will). Yes, that scene didn't really make sense. And that storyline was confusing. What was the point of that part again? You will have these thoughts. That's what really keeps it from being up to TDK quality.
Overall, if you enjoyed the Nolan Batman series, I can't see how you won't enjoy this film. I guess disappointment is relative, but I had high hopes for this film and I walked out of the theatre pleased. The ending is certainly awesome and that last shot... oh boy.
The Elite
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Brilliant.
I think its the fanciest way I've ever seen to say my opinion is right, and everyone else is wrong.
SCULLIBUNDO
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See how effectively I turned the convo away from spoilers with good ol' Avatar riling?
I'm not being the hero. I'm being something more.
I'm not being the hero. I'm being something more.
MikeHaggar
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sculli, do you think avatar is better than dark knight rises?
planar1280
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It does not diverge from what Nolan has built up though. Bruce in this film is Bruce from BB and TDK. He might be horrendously fucking different than he is from Earth One continuity, or he is in The Brave and The Bold, or he is from 1970s when Robin sucks his dick in the Batcave, but who gives a fuck? It's a director's interpretation of the character.
Tell it to Alan Moore.
Maybe people just have different tastes and you shouldn't insult them like that.
I don't get all the Avatar hate, really that seems to leak even into unrelated topics. Wasn't it positively reviewed in addition to attracting huge audiences? I have never watched Avatar and have no opinion on its quality, though.
What am I telling to Alan Moore exactly?
Ape Gone Insane
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I'm worried about this consensus that you can't understand Bane in some scenes and you can understand him completely fine in other scenes. I thought they had totally fixed the problem.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Without question.
I give a fuck because it's awful yet people carry on like it's the best thing ever, which it really, really isn't.
A reviewer I follow on Youtube said of the film, that the change made to Bane's mask from the comic, how it now exposes his eyes instead of covering his whole face, was essential to how well he plays as a villain. Seems like his best acting is done through his eyes? Sounds good to me.
Angry Fork
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will this film motivate me to workout more
I thought Avatar was worse than Captain America. LOL WHERE AM I
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If you think either I or my peers opinions stupid that's fine it's your opinion, I was being intentionally combative in a very specific sort of way purposefully, and its only our opinions, but if we think its the best thing ever it shouldn't bother you.
Wait, I thought the New Roc one was playing 70mm too.
brandonh83
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Avatar only came out 2-3 years ago.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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Right hence why the previous statement is still correct.
brandonh83
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Okay fine. You either hate Avatar and go on about your way, or post on GAF long enough to see disagreement.
MikeHaggar
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do you think avatar is better than batman begins and/or the dark night?
SCULLIBUNDO
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You will never be one o the people.
And now that this thread is back on safe tracks I must retire.
And now that this thread is back on safe tracks I must retire.
True Lies is awesome.
It is. And it's his last great film.
the way this thread has gone is so amusing to watch, cant wait for November when we have all the "Jackson has lost it" "This isnt lotr" drama. I predict it now, there is nothing better than watching parts of gaf polarised by something
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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True Lies is awesome.
1994 so close to fits in with 1994, and it is awesome. Some parts a little meh, but Arnold shoots a dude from a missile of a harrier...it's great!
And For specific directors, its the same handful of posters who are suddenly "polarised," obvious stuff
Terminator > Terminator 2 > Aliens > True Lies > Titanic > Avatar
the football thread has no mention of james cameron
the football thread has no mention of james cameron
planar1280
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If you take 5-10 years on a movie, its bound to be good, since 1983 hes made 7 movies
Any Directors movie would be good
I don't think they or you, or anyone's opinion are stupid and never said so, being stupid is not a prerequisite for being wrong.
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Terminator 2 hasn't aged well, but that's also more I want Arnold as the villain and it just merged into pop culture too much that made it oddly annoying in a wat, but I did like T3 enough not to be too bothered by the issue of good Arnold.
Terminator is great because he had really good source material to work with <snicker> and it's not overly long.
Also you never saw Abyss?
I approve this list.
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Aliens Depends on which cut it is. Theatrical is a far better move, even with the remote guns not in it.
Honestly don't see how any fan of Batman could be mad with how the character is presented in these films.
They nailed the character and the supporting cast. Saying Alfred and Gordon are wrong, I don't even...
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How can you even get wrong with Gary Oldman?
It's just odd how you use the word opinion 13 times in one fucking sentence and then cry over people liking Batman BUT THE INTERPRETATION IS FUCKING AWFUL AND WRONG
Nah, haven't yet. So many films I need to watch, so little time
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It's not too bad, it's got some really interesting effects, but in the end it's pretty simplistic in terms of story and morality. It's see it once and you won't need to again. Directors cut has some nice effects, but not much else to recommend.
Read my previous posts for my reasoning.
He's one step removed from Jar Jar Binks in these movies "I gotta get me one of those",
he doesn't even realise that Bruce Wayne is Batman, WTF?
Yeah, in the comics pretty much everyone knows that Bruce Wayne is Batman and everyone knows that Superman is Clark Kent because the glasses are so fucking obscuring. Come on, man.
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