Alligatorjandro
Banned
And they lose out on many customers who disagree.
CFA response to anti-gay alleg. "Guilty as charged." Do NOT gloat about eating at CFA
- Thread starter RBH
- Start date
- Status
And they lose out on many customers who disagree.
Mr. Enigma
Member
The issue is that patron's money allows them the flexibility to make that $2 million donation. But let's not see the forest through the trees...
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
Would you knowingly go to a Monsanto-owned chain of restaurants?
teruterubozu
Member
eh, God sells.
Evolution_1ne
Banned
but saying what you feel on the internet gets you banned hence the passive-aggressive, devils advocate mickey mouse bullshit etc etc that you see......
Spehornoob
Member
No. I can respect that. It's self-righteous to use that stance to act like a prick and talk down to people who may not have the same values as you. I've never eaten at Chik-Fil-A. I don't really care to. Not a fast food chicken kind of guy. But, in my opinion, were I to go there, my responsibility stops once i hand over the money. It's them deciding what to do with it. I just wanted chicken. Their business what they do with their profits.
ReBurn
Gold Member
It hasn't really cost Chick-fil-a anything to have the positions that they do. $4 billion in revenue says that they are just fine with the customers that they have. And this revelation by their head honcho will likely bring in more business from people who support that point of view, even if some people stop going because of it.
Devolution
Member
Your responsibility starts when you give money to corporations and don't care one wit what they do with it. If you're pro-gay marriage, giving money to chick fil-a is a complete contradiction. Deal with it.
Eight Diagram Bat Fighter
Banned
Also gives them the flexibility to donate a ton more than 2 million in scholarships. Everyone spends money that many find disagreeable and offensive. Not saying it's right, but shades of morality has always been objective from person to person
It is. I had a ex girlfriend who will worked there back in college. They make you watch a bunch of videos about there Christian values and what not.
Well, the quality of the food (beats McDonalds and Burger King) draws people as well. But they have always been willing to express their beliefs and have quite a few loyal customers because of it.
You might as well forget trying to eat there on Little League nights.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
Banned
No, it isn't all.
Sadly, this will probably attract far more customers than it actually completely turns off.
Most, who disagree, will keep eating their anyway as this thread shows. And those who agree will support CFA with even more fervor.
ReBurn
Gold Member
Do you have a list of companies that you only do business with because you're sure they support every political agenda you believe in? That would be a cool list to see.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
Banned
Why would you think I care what you think about me?
Woody Invincible
Banned
Are some people just bored and feel like trolling or being devil's advocates?
Mr. Enigma
Member
Who fucking cares about scholarships when they donate money to promote hatred? I could do all the good deeds for kids I wanted but it wouldn't matter if I made it a point to punch old women in the face everyday just for being old.
Here's a tip: just because you boycott one thing doesn't mean you have to boycott everything. Chick-Fil-A is an easy one because they're very transparent about their stance, and it's easy to not eat somewhere.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
Banned
Free money is free money.
Devolution
Member
They said directly how they feel and helped to fund Prop 8. What more do you need?
Eight Diagram Bat Fighter
Banned
Then there are a ton of companies you should stop buying from.
I agree that it's pretty easy to not eat somewhere, but Devo has made it pretty clear at this point that any sort of support toward a company that does bad things with their money is direct support of those bad things.
Right, who cares what good anyone does whenever they also do bad. Didn't you mention something about not being so shallow minded?
What this whole thing boils down to is what you value more: What they do that is good, or what they do that is bad. Everyone is free to make their decisions for themselves.
Shrug, i've eaten there twice in my life and wasn't impressed. Then i found out about the 09 donations. I'm not gay but until they change their attitude about this i'm done eating there. Customer service and decent chicken sandwiches aside, i can abstain giving them my money until management keeps their absolutely backwards bigoted attitudes separate from their business revenue.
It's only a matter of time until this resolves itself. Whether they get money from me starting this year, or 30 years from now is completely up to them.
It's only a matter of time until this resolves itself. Whether they get money from me starting this year, or 30 years from now is completely up to them.
Spehornoob
Member
But I didn't give them my money.
I traded it for chicken.
Delicious, delicious chicken.
Mr. Enigma
Member
To simply see all things on levels of nothing more than "good" and "bad" is shallow.
Bay Maximus
Banned
I think I'm just going to steal a box of nuggets off the truck. Not only do I not financially support bigotry, I'm actually taking money out of the Devil's pocket. Plus I get to enjoy sweet, sweet Chick-fil-a nuggets. Win/Win snitches.
ReBurn
Gold Member
You said this:
So I'm just assuming that you care at least one wit what every corporation you give money to does with that money. Because you said that it is a responsibility. So I wonder if people really take it as far as you say people have a responsibility to take it.
Spehornoob
Member
This is brilliant. He just compromised both sides. Are you Jesus?
What if that company's employees do bad things with the money that company pays them?
How many degrees of separation do we need?
Or... we could go there and talk loudly about being pro-gay marriage to make them feel uncomfortable?
Well not me cos I don't live where these shops are, but that's what I'd probably do.
We could spend as little as possible so they feel conflicted about asking us to leave.
My personal opinion is simple . Homosexuals should be able to do whatever they want as long as they aren't hurting any one (same goes with strait people) But the gay community shouldn't even bother with chick-fil-a and neither should those claiming to boycott them.
At the end of the day they will still employee gay people and at the end of the day they directly help local ecnomys .
The gay community should be focusing on groups like the boy scouts who get to use public buildings free of charge and are also tax free. The goverment should not support bias institutions
At the end of the day they will still employee gay people and at the end of the day they directly help local ecnomys .
The gay community should be focusing on groups like the boy scouts who get to use public buildings free of charge and are also tax free. The goverment should not support bias institutions
That's what you're arguing.
edit: My point being - individually we have the onus to decide if we would rather support their 'good' actions or not support their 'bad' actions. Just because you'd rather not support them because they donate to "promote hatred" doesn't mean someone else can't support them because they give scholarships.
Just gonna plug this lil link again: http://www.chick-fil-a.com/Connect/Contact-Us-CARES
Comment on how you love the food served in their restaurants, hate the positions held by their executives
Comment on how you love the food served in their restaurants, hate the positions held by their executives
I think people should be free to boycott such a company, just as Chik-fil-A has the right to be open about their Christianity, and just as how others have the right to pick their battles (and choose to continue to eat there). But there's an uncomfortable amount of guilt-tripping in this thread.
Spehornoob
Member
That's just it. I don't think anyone has said "You're WRONG for boycotting these guys." It's a position I have quite a bit of respect for.
But there's been plenty of "You're WRONG for not boycotting them."
People like to feel good about themselves. Some of them just have to make others feel bad in order to do so.
Couldn't agree more.
Eight Diagram Bat Fighter
Banned
The guilt tripping totally reminds me of tipping elitists who use the same tactics.
Spehornoob
Member
Hey guys, I totally just read an article that Chik-Fil-A supports the National Association of Tipping and Forced Circumcision and Also Rape Culture.
Keru_Shiri
Member
It goes both ways, looking at alot of the justifications used for continuing to support CFA. There's quite a few people that have insinuated that we were silly for boycotting them, or that our efforts were wasted, or even hypocritical.
why would someone brag about supporting this kind of place
Count Dookkake
Member
Fascists aren't so bad. I mean, at least they have cool uniforms.
Keru_Shiri
Member
...seriously?
Spehornoob
Member
I must have missed those types of posts. But, if that's the case, then you're right. That's stupid too.
It's also jsut about the *way* things are said. Not all of the guys who advocate a boycott are assholes about it, of course. And it's also fine to to disagree with the boycott if you honestly think it's a wasted effort or hypocritical. There's just no need to use those opinions to somehow make yourself "better" than the others and to give yourself a reason to talk down to them about it.
Not you personally, by the way. I'm using the royal "You" here.
Eight Diagram Bat Fighter
Banned
I agree, but it's about as silly as being labeled a anti gay supporter because you choose to eat there.
Being called a horrible person cause you don't tip or even don't tip enough? Yep.
- Status