Considering The Knightsfall storyline was the last major comic storyline I have followed and I love the Bane character I can pretty much garuntee my feelings won't change about the film. For me this is the payoff for sitting through the shit that was Batman and Robin.
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Considering The Knightsfall storyline was the last major comic storyline I have followed and I love the Bane character I can pretty much garuntee my feelings won't change about the film. For me this is the payoff for sitting through the shit that was Batman and Robin.
ryutaro's mama
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Well, that makes sense then.
I didn't read the KnightQuest, KnightFall, KnightsEnd archs. How long was Bruce on the shelf when Bane broke his back in that story?
How hyped would you have been if JGL turned into Azreal?
No, there are a few scenes where he barely touches someone and they spaz out. Like the scene after he puts Bruce in prison. When Bane leaves, he barely touches Wayne's chest, and he has a borderline seizure. Also when he touches Dagget, he freezes up as if something's happening to him. There are certainly a few more instances.
SCULLIBUNDO
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When he touched dagget, I assumed it was the fact that Daggett realized Bane was going to kill him. That their dealings meant nothing that the he was quite literally in the palm of this psychopath's hands.
With Bruce, I was sure it was because his back was broken and so he was still in ridiculous pain.
A long time, several months. Now mind you I don't think they really showed time passing well in TDKR but if you pay close attention its quite a while from the time Bane leaves Bruce in the prison and when he gets out.
They did change some of that story, for instance Bane's origin was modified to make him a part of the LOS, and he never knew his father. He did grow up in jail and lost his mother in jail.
Also when Bruce came back to Gotham in Knights End he needed to train a while until he faced Azriel, and all of that was taken out of TDKR.
Regardless it was close enough I loved it.
BTW I have kept up with someof the stories in the comics, but don't actively collect.
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Oh no, he was pushing on Bruce's chest, and making him feel the pain on his back.
Also it wasn't really a magic touch, Bane's shtick is to make people suffer slowly and painfully, so he kills most of the people in the movie by suffocating them to death.
SCULLIBUNDO
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I think I would have preferred if once Bruce was taken to the prison in India, we stayed with him until he got back to Gotham to find it in ruins.
I could see that. Having the news reports on the TV but when he gets back its so much worse.
ryutaro's mama
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Speaking of Bane, in the prologue, the guy was so thorough, down to asking one of his live men to remain behind in the wreckage. Then, when he leaves Bruce behind in the prison, you would think he would leave a goon or two behind to do nothing but monitor his progress and if nothing else, keep Bane abreast of all the goings on.
No one was left there inside or at the top of the well.
Bane went from being an amazing mastermind to making the single biggest oversight of the film.
No one was left there inside or at the top of the well.
Bane went from being an amazing mastermind to making the single biggest oversight of the film.
Regardless of the comparisons between the 3, I still think its one of the greatest trilogies off all time
SCULLIBUNDO
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I guess he didn't believe that anybody could escape from that place - especially since he couldn't. Also, he probably didn't think Bruce could have his spinal cord punched back into place!
ryutaro's mama
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Agreed.
Would have been perfect if not for Tom Cruise.
1 or two armed goons is all it would have taken.
I guess he was 100% confident that there was no way for Bruce to come out of that well.
He was arrogant. Though remember only one other person has climed out of that hole.
ryutaro's mama
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The same guy that single handily destroyed the LOS and killed Ra's?
Why take any chances that the gotdamn Batman figures out a way out?
Leave a goon or two behind and problem is solved. The second he starts climbing the well, bullets would rain down.
Have you followed the storyline about Bane after he broke Batman? He never considers Bruce a concern after he broke his back. This goes back to the origional comics. Now in the comics Bane is the one that completely mentally and physically wears Bruce down before breaking his back, and since he is so utterly defeated he just doesn't give him a second thought.
teacupcopter
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So how much has it been discussed on TDKR being a huge movie pushing the notion that the 1% are the ones to save us?
He couldn't escape from the well.....so why would Batman be able to.....he even remarks "I broke you".
He probably thought Chiropractic Medicine was quackery too >_>
He probably wasn't even in charge at all...... movie implied that he was Talia's muscle.
ryutaro's mama
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TBF, Bruce became part of the 99% once his prints got swiped (and then swiped) and he lost teh all his moniez.
If someone's vertibae (spelling?) is purturding I seriously doubt punching it will help. i liked the final fight however.
I can get behind this. The absolute weakest part of TDKR for me were the sections which cut away from Bruce's plight to show Gotham falling under Bane's control.
I just felt like I wanted to stay with Bruce and see his story play out. Plus it would have been a punch to the guts to see Gotham in despair for the first time along with Bruce.
SCULLIBUNDO
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I hear most spinal surgeon's have a speed bag in the back of their operating theatre.
Possible, yes, likely to do anything other than cause more damage in real life, no. But it's a superhero movie (and a really dumb one) so just go with it.
Dear God no.
The fact you called it dumb threw any credability you had out the window. Thanks for playing.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Credibility*
And the guy PUNCHED Wayne's protruding spinal cord back into place. You do realize how ridiculous that is, right?
ryutaro's mama
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Noooo, why did you have to go and say that? You've taken the bait! You're only going to provoke him!
SCULLIBUNDO
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OMG AT LEAST RUB SOME ALCOHOL ON YOUR KNUCKLES BEFORE PUNCHING MY SEVERED BACK
The scene is kinda dopey, but (1) it was a single vertebra and (2) I think the poster was referring to Sogjat's characterisation of the whole movie as being 'dumb' rather than that particular scene.
It is dumb. Tdk and tdkr are dumb movies but they're also great. They're ridiculous and unrealistic.
ryutaro's mama
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I liked how, moments after punching his vertebra back into place, he hangs his body up by a rope and says, "Stay like that until you can stand."
WTF?
BurnOutBrighter
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You know, you gotta let that kind of thing stretch out. Gravity heals.
FlutterPuffs
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I was fine with the spinal treatment. It was finding the fingerprint on Joker's bullet that I hated out of all the Batman movies.
and of course, what the shit kept Two-Face's eyeball from drying out.
and of course, what the shit kept Two-Face's eyeball from drying out.
ryutaro's mama
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I watched TDK more than 10 times but I stilll don't understand how that works
FlutterPuffs
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Best part was Joker actually expected it. How the hell do you expect someone to reconstruct pieces of bullets, and still finding a fingerprint on it.
BurnOutBrighter
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I think he uses sample bullets on brick samples, and finds a match with the brick from the crime scene (simply by eying them up, which is ridiculous).
Apparently by knowing how the (non-identical) sample bullet broke up in the (non-identical) brick, he can reverse engineer that exact same pattern in the crime scene brick to virtually rebuild the bullet fragment, revealing the fingerprint of its handler. Even by the most far fetched CSI standards, this is impossible.
An easier way would be to simply scan the whole brick for metals and run it in a program to fit all the pieces back together.
ryutaro's mama
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Joker would have left a couple of goons behind at that pit prison.
No.
ryutaro's mama
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How about no one finding the BatWing in plain sight under a tarp on the roof while Bruce was in the pit in India?
Not a single person found it!
Not a civilian, not a Special Forces guy, not a Bane goon.
No one.
Not a single person found it!
Not a civilian, not a Special Forces guy, not a Bane goon.
No one.
Bruce quit being Batman for 8 years and let his company slide into decline because a supervillain killed his girlfriend = Dumb
Alfred leaves Bruce when he needs his support the most = Dumb
Bane's voice and the whole misdirection of him possibly being the son of Ra's al Ghul (which isn't pronounced "Raz" no matter how much Nolan want's to insist it is) = Dumb
A device/program which erases your digital footprint from every computer in the world = Dumb
Sending all the police in the city into the sewers all at one time = Dumb
The fact that Batman is so easily tricked and does the dumbest thing possible in nearly every situation = Dumb
Bat auto pilot foreshadowing and use as plot device to build false expectation that Batman was going to die when he was obviously not = Dumb
Creating a character called John Blake as an amalgamation of Jason, Dick and Tim and then still having to drill home to the audience that his middle name is Robin = unbelievably fucking Dumb
Bruce creating a fusion energy device and then abandoning it when he "finds out" that it could be weaponized = Dumb (but working on the basis that Bruce in the Nolan films is a complete moron maybe expected)
An unguarded prison designed like a well, but that nobody (except Talia and Bruce) has ever escaped from, even though the prisoners are shown to have multiple lengths of rope at their disposal = Dumb
I could go on like this for about 7 pages but you get the idea. The movie is dumb, it trys to come off as smart and realistic but it isn't.
BurnOutBrighter
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Or how there's a bat cycle just sitting in a wall, that he gives to Catwoman.
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