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CrushDance
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Holy fuck! I clicked on the wrong thread and read about India and the Batwing.
FML.
Bail out!
FML.
Bail out!
BurnOutBrighter
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Well, it could have been worse...
Well he did let Gordon take a spin in the Tumbler. I suppose when escalation's painted you in a corner, you can't take your time in choosing who you really trust.
BurnOutBrighter
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I meant, that it just happens to be sitting there in a wall. I can understand that he would keep backups around the city, but it just comes out of nowhere.
SCULLIBUNDO
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HEY I KNOW! I'll trust the woman who sold me out to my possible death!
FlutterPuffs
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You are an angry, angry man. Does it hurt you that some of us here actually love the movie despite its flaws?
Because seriously man, right now you're like a priest preaching in front of a strip bar, just trying to spoil everyone's fun.
TDKR isn't perfect, but I fucking loved Nolan's rendition of Batman just the same.
I think it's more a question of how that infrastructure was ever built. Why is there a secret compartment in a wall in the city? How did it get there?
Bornstellar
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Just saw it. Not as good as the The Dark Knight - lots of pacing issues, super cheesy moments, and wait, what? leaps of logic, but still pretty enjoyable.
scoobs
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You are such a downer. Its a freaking movie about batman. Do you dissect every movie this way? Good god.
ryutaro's mama
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SCULLIBUNDO
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And the whole 'Fuck your no killing rule!'
Bruce of course falls in love with her and they live happily ever after.
Bruce really is a masochist.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Ive got an odd question that was bugging me from the moment Bane is on screen: where did Banes painkiller gas actually come from....his mask has no tubes linking it to any apparatus to actually store the gas.
Everytime Bane was on screen i would try and see where the gas actually came from....thats the only thing, yes the only thing that took me out of the movie...i was willing to stomach everything, but not seeing where the gas came from fucked with my brain.
Else, i absolutely loved the movie.... Ive got a nigh obsession now with the bat-pods tumble turns every time i saw that id get a chill down my spine.
I need to sit and figure out a way to replicate that in CDK or UDK.
I didn't like it, you did. Nothing I'm saying is untrue. If the more you think about the film the less you enjoy it , how is that my fault? Ignore me if you want.
Gotham is corrupt to the core, it has been infiltrated at every level of its infrastructure.
Sometimes you guys want everything explained to you, and sometimes you say there's too much explanation!
SCULLIBUNDO
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You obviously just don't like Batman as a character.
ryutaro's mama
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That vision of Bane wasn't sustained by the venom.
The breathing apparatus was for helping Bane live pain free, not for venom delivery.
scoobs
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You're just one of those people I'll never understand. How can anyone enjoy anything when you break every little aspect down into your own little reason to hate it? I'm just so glad I don't think the way you do.
CosmicGroinPull
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It was fantastic. I would have liked even better had Batman demonstrated more complicated martial arts moves, but it's a weakness of the Nolan movies I've long come to terms with.
At least they're a bit better than tdk, and Batman showed more finesse during the final fight.
Of course, he's been established as self-destructive. Looking forward to the romantic comedy sequel starring Bruce Wayne.
BurnOutBrighter
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Question:
When Bane & co bust out of the plane at the start of the film, it appears they forcefully transfuse the fusion doctor's blood into a dead guy in a body bag? What was this about?
When Bane & co bust out of the plane at the start of the film, it appears they forcefully transfuse the fusion doctor's blood into a dead guy in a body bag? What was this about?
Christ this is the worst argument. I've already said this, but just because it's a movie about Batman doesn't mean it's allowed to defy logic. In any way. Good movies can make anything believable, even Batman. That's why the first two movies worked. Bad movies have gaping plot holes and leaps in logic. They're two completely separate entities.
And yes, it's perfectly fine to dissect the movie to this degree. When a film is being openly praised, surely an equal level of criticism can be applied. That's what this thread is here for. For discussion.
Also nonsensical. Great films can be broken down into every little aspect and the result is a huge appreciation of the film. Flawed films are broken down into every little aspect and the blemishes are revealed. It can go both ways and it's a totally valid way of appreciating filmmaking. Probably the truest way.
ryutaro's mama
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The Cat and the Bat Come Back
SCULLIBUNDO
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Dr. Seuss' XXX The Bat in the Cat
CosmicGroinPull
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ryutaro's mama
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So when the remains are found, the coroners believe the corpse is the doctor, due to his blood.
ryutaro's mama
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Mr. and Mrs. Wayne
BurnOutBrighter
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Surely they couldn't transfuse enough blood into him to fool anyone doing an autopsy?
Haha I'll roll with it. Nothing beats the reverse engineered bullet from TDKR.
I chose to be ignorant on where he keeps his vehicles in the city when I thought too hard on the plausibility of him sneaking a roaring tumbler into an alley outside Arkham in BB. But that thing with The Bat in TDKR? I can only tolerate so much plot holes
Well...wutcha gonna do. World's coming to an end, and it all boils down to choosing the only person that would look fuckin sexy on a bike ie. the person wearing tights.Scullibundo said:
Anyway, I didn't call that into question when the bigger problem for me was how their conflict was resolved the moment he came back to Gotham and met Selina.
ryutaro's mama
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I don't break down every aspect of every film I watch, but when things are so glaringly stupid and the tone is played as dead serious things tend to stick out. I care about the character and his world, which is why I keep punishing myself by going to see movies I know I will probably hate in the hope that "this one might be good". In that way I'm just as stupid as the movies, if not more so.
SCULLIBUNDO
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How did Bane and co know that Bruce was Batman? I don't remember Batman leaving any of the League of Shadows members alive at the end of Begins.
So when Catwoman was stealing his fingerprints, at the time I had been assuming it was because the LoS wanted to try and confirm his identity. Nope. Turns out it was for the deal to bankrupt Wayne.
So when Catwoman was stealing his fingerprints, at the time I had been assuming it was because the LoS wanted to try and confirm his identity. Nope. Turns out it was for the deal to bankrupt Wayne.
FlutterPuffs
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Thing is, you believe so much that your word is gospel. Also making yourself the victim here. Did I say I'm starting to dislike the film after your rant? Like I said, I love the film despite its flaws. I am fine with the leaps of logic it took, or the mistakes the characters made because it's a fucking movie, not the One True Batman film we all need and deserve.
Good god man, relax. You've already spewed this in the non-spoiler thread, so why bring this here? Are you looking for a fight, or a good ol' exchange of opinions?
ryutaro's mama
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Bane was an orphan just like John Blake--he could see it in Bruce's eyes that he was Batman.
This can have many explanations. I assume they had a base of operations in randombekiztan. Plans/info were probably laid out and Talia had or gained access to these.
FlutterPuffs
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Batman is into tsundere girls? I can relate.
Maybe this is where Talia's grand schemes come into play, which should include dissolving Wayne Enterprise. She must have known who Bruce is for her to put those plans into action in the first place.
CosmicGroinPull
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The look on his face, how pleased was he to see her again? Of course, seeing her rescue the boy helped.
I didn't think much of the betrayal. I can believe how he could forgive her, given how much he knows of the life she's lead (betrayed by fencers), how she's in deep with dangerous people, and like Rachel said in Tdk, Bruce's strong faith in humanity.
Yup - it isn't rocket science. The League of Shadows as an organisation totally knows Bruce is Batman... it isn't a f'ing secret to the, Ra's was probably bitching about it for months before he roared in to Gotham with his microwave doodad.
planar1280
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I cried not at the ending but at bruce's struggle to climb and then the doc said, go without the rope so you can really deal with that fear
An exchange of opinions and ideas, not being told in multiple different ways that I'm "spoiling the fun", or that I act like my word is "gospel' like a priest preaching in front of a strip club. Why did you like the movie? What about it? What speaks to you? If I'm wrong explain to me why you think so, don't just tell me that I'm wrong in as many different ways as you can think of without backing it up.
For example I would except the idea that sombody maybe really liked the John Blake character. Joseph Gordon-Levitt was really good and the idea that you take all these aspects and background details from multiple existing characters and combine them into one person might be something that could be argued as being a really cool idea.
Which is something that just had to be said out loud in case the audience couldn't understand Symbolism. I was actually enjoying that part until Nolan had to go and make it so obvious.
It wasn't so much how she reacted to him but how he allowed their friendship (if you call it that, it certainly doesn't feel adversarial) to be rekindled. But then again, I didn't have that big a problem with it and it was someting I was willing to let slide because by that point, everything's at stake and you only have so few people to trust on doing a good job (because whether or not they'll DO that job is different layer of trust altogether)
planar1280
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My fav character was jgl followed by bale then hathaway
CosmicGroinPull
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Bane would have removed all the teeth and drained all the blood beforehand, I think ... :O
ryutaro's mama
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See, I almost cried when Alfred was at the graves but the climbing out the pit was non-emotional because I knew he would succeed. There was no suspense for me. I think it would have been more interesting to see Bruce have to be more inventive to escape or something.
The whole "believe in yourself and use true fear to win" was just meh.
BurnOutBrighter
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So when authorities find the body, they'll think it's the doctor who died in the crash.
Ridiculous, yes. You'd have to replace his entire body of blood, not to mention his jaw for dental records.
planar1280
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So bane could stall the cia and make them think its the russian
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