TacticalFox88
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Am I the only who was pissed at not a SINGLE reference to the Joker? I mean, really? Unless I fucking missed it.
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Thagomizer
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One thing about the fight choreography: while the holds and throws all look good, punches still look fake and weak. It's too obvious that they aren't really hitting each other; all these blows look like they have no power to them whatsoever. In one overhead shot in the climax, Bane "punches" a mook cop and knocks him over- except that he just kind of lazily pointed his fist at the guy's stomach and didn't even come close to connecting, but the dude goes down like he just got hit with a hammer. And that's just the most egregious example.
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Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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I wish I had not read any spoilers and not seen any trailer but you can't help it. I know a lot of the plots and twist but the only thing I don't know is how it'll be presented.
Very very satisfying movie and a great finish to Nolan's amazing trilogy.
Very very satisfying movie and a great finish to Nolan's amazing trilogy.
el retorno
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I didn't really see this and thought everything looked pretty convincing. I really like the fighting in these movies.
smokeymicpot
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There was none because it would of been bad taste or some shit. This is something I am actually pissed about. The man terrorized a fucking city had clown make up on and not one reference to him. Not even a hey he got transferred or some random horse shit. I know Ledger died but it is the Joker most known Batman bad guy.
VistraNorrez
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I thought that too, but would've been kind of a waste and I don't think Joker would've just let Bane do his thing either. If Ledger lived I can't see Joker taking on such a minor role.
SCULLIBUNDO
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I was actually expecting a cut to black when Alfred looks forward and smiles. But I'm sure many audience members would be considered too ambiguous for such a mass market film.
And Nolan has repeatedly said there would be no mention of the Joker. I think it was a smart decision on his part.
ThisWreckage
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In a movie about a man masquerading around dressed as a bat and a hulk of a human being wearing a mask that keeps him alive, the most unbelievable thing was the Bruce Wayne/Talia romance.
Thagomizer
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I don't think so. It's just too... plain for the Joker to be running a Kangaroo court. Too pedestrian. There'd have to be more... spectacle.
Hell, he'd probably go after Bane just as hard as he would Batman.
PhoncipleBone
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SCULLIBUNDO
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C'mon son. The Bruce/Catwoman romance was even more unbelievable.
ryutaro's mama
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You misspelled 'Selina'.
I loved it but I dunno, I feel like if you read the comics at all you can see most of the "twists" coming a mile away -- not that I considered that a problem.
Obviously he's Tim Dra-- er Robin Blake, obviously she's Talia, and obviously Bruce Wayne doesn't just forget to work on the auto-pilot. The goddamn Batman doesn't let shit slip his mind.
None of that bothered me, though. Personally I think it's the best of the three. It returns to some of the themes that made Batman Begins the better film than TDK, but with Selina and Bane as a more interesting background than Scarecrow and Ra's.
That might be a cause for bias on my part, actually: Anne Hathaway was terrific. I now want a legit Catwoman movie.
Anticipate DC to fuck it up somehow, though.
It was just an acknowledgment of what everyone already knows: Gotham is New York City.
Obviously he's Tim Dra-- er Robin Blake, obviously she's Talia, and obviously Bruce Wayne doesn't just forget to work on the auto-pilot. The goddamn Batman doesn't let shit slip his mind.
None of that bothered me, though. Personally I think it's the best of the three. It returns to some of the themes that made Batman Begins the better film than TDK, but with Selina and Bane as a more interesting background than Scarecrow and Ra's.
That might be a cause for bias on my part, actually: Anne Hathaway was terrific. I now want a legit Catwoman movie.
Anticipate DC to fuck it up somehow, though.
It was just an acknowledgment of what everyone already knows: Gotham is New York City.
He's telegraphing his punches too much, its been a problem for me in previous movies as well.
I see him in non-makeup sitting there in a wig kinda doing it unwillingly.
It's not Cillian Murphy I hated, just the idea of one man looking down on everyone as they sit before him, passing a sentence that lets them all fall into ice. Felt very comic bookey compared to the rest of the movie.
Almost like someone said "Hey, we MUST find a way to get Cillian Murphy in this movie, even if it's stupid."
Almost like someone said "Hey, we MUST find a way to get Cillian Murphy in this movie, even if it's stupid."
el retorno
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I know Gotham is a stand in for New York but it was weird watching a pretty ambiguous city in Begins, Chicago in TDK and now New York in DKR
Also I'd really dig having JGL do a Robin or a Batman movie.
I did wish they went with his name being Dick Grayson
ThisWreckage
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Hathaway wasn't believable as Catwoman whatsoever. I said that the moment she was cast and I'm actually disappointed that I was right.
PhoncipleBone
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No matter how bad her accent was for most of the movie, I will not complain about having to look at Marion Cotillard during the movie. So gorgeous.
holy fuckin shit!!! LMAO
Very comic booky, unlike the car chase with a dangerous explosive in the back of the van we're shooting at.
Yep.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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You all have to admit: there were some amazing full-circle moments.
HIGH DEF JEFF
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Why were people who were living as squatters always clean shaven and looking fresh?
If the reactor holder thing can stabilize the big nuke why did Talia wait till she was near death to flood it?
Why was it daytime when they left the stock exchange but it was nightime during the chase?
Bane tells a thug to bring him Miranda. Next scene when Wayne is brought to Lucius, Miranda is back to squatting. Next scene she is with Bane again.
Regarding Blake...like Michael Meyers before him...everywhere he needs to be for the story, there he is. Just appearing out of nowhere. Mirada does the same thing.
What a mess of a movie. Getting to see Batman Begins again in a theater was the highlight of my day.
If the reactor holder thing can stabilize the big nuke why did Talia wait till she was near death to flood it?
Why was it daytime when they left the stock exchange but it was nightime during the chase?
Bane tells a thug to bring him Miranda. Next scene when Wayne is brought to Lucius, Miranda is back to squatting. Next scene she is with Bane again.
Regarding Blake...like Michael Meyers before him...everywhere he needs to be for the story, there he is. Just appearing out of nowhere. Mirada does the same thing.
What a mess of a movie. Getting to see Batman Begins again in a theater was the highlight of my day.
el retorno
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This is why even with the weaknesses I'll always love this movie. It really wraps it up nicely.
CosmicGroinPull
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Well there was one tiny reference where someone from the white house said that
Gothamites were resilient and they could survive this too.
ryutaro's mama
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I'm talking about the unbelievable of Bruce falling for a woman that
1) stole his mother's pearls
2) stole his prints (thereby bankrupting him)
3) stole his car
4) walked him into a trap where Bane pulverized him and broke his back
How does he respond to that?
Gives her the BatPod and lately retires with her.
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaa?
SCULLIBUNDO
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I don't know if I can agree just yet. Present those moments to me in flashbacks that don't place any trust in my memory and I might be able to answer you.
Reagan's BR
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She also saves him from a shotgun to the face.
Nolanism, random scene that has no impact on the plot or its characters.
After watching the marathon, one thing that makes me place Begins at the bottom of the barrel is that its the only climax in the series that wasn't particularly exciting.
The people screaming in terror from Scarecrow's gas, the final confrontation with Ra's, and the train conductor who explains the action to the audience as if we were morons...it all is so boring.
Also, as villains, Ra's and Scarecrow lacked the...bite of Joker, Two-Face, and Bane.
The people screaming in terror from Scarecrow's gas, the final confrontation with Ra's, and the train conductor who explains the action to the audience as if we were morons...it all is so boring.
Also, as villains, Ra's and Scarecrow lacked the...bite of Joker, Two-Face, and Bane.
BravesCountry
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Your complaints are superficial at best. If this is the worst you can come up with then it should have been an amazing movie to you.
HIGH DEF JEFF
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Yeah the same pearl that were yanked off her neck in Begins and never mentioned again.
Also known as "just a fun little scene".
FlutterPuffs
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You know, I actually didn't find this unbelievable.
I mean here we have a self-destructive man with a death wish and quite possibly PTSD. Of course he'll fall for the bitch.
Source: A dude with a history of self-destructiveness and dating bitches.
Edit: I'm not saying you're wrong that it's unbelievable, seeing as it wasn't handled very well, but I just realised about it AFTER coming into this thread.
The only continuity error I noticed right away was when Selina put her goggles down to blow up the stack of cars, then they cut right back to her and the goggles are up. I mean theoretically she could've easily flipped them up while the camera was still showing the hole she created in the cars, but for some reason it was jarring.
The JGL stuff is definitely a problem with the movie imho- he gets way too much screentime, and he is always conveniently in the right place at the right time. He isn't a character, he's a plot device. They give him some backstory, but even that is in service of a copout reveal.
Yeah this bugged the hell out of me too, she didn't have much backstory most of it was just implied or hinted at and then batman goes and retires with her also knowing that he done the batdance with ras's daughter.
smokeymicpot
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:lol that one little thing I forgot about. One big problem I had though while watching the marathon was I stopped caring about Rachel as soon as I seen a different actress. Never really bothered me until I watched them back to back. I didn't care anymore.
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