brandonh83
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So this will be my favorite of the three.
The Dark Knight Rises |OT| The Legend Ends (Warning: Unmarked Spoilers Within)
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So this will be my favorite of the three.
I don't know.. for some reason it felt like there was a huge lack of batman in this movie. (as crazy as that must sound)
SuperAndroid17
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Yup , exactly my thoughts after watching the movie.
TDK was mostly centric on the joker , TDKR is all about bruce wayne.
the microwave emitter was the worst part of begins, such a lame plot device to put the city at peril which clashed with the whole 'grounded on reality' feel the film was going for. singlehandly brought the third act down and one of the reason why, in my opinion, tdk is superior to begins.
maybe if they would've shown it early in the film, instead of stuffing it at the beginning of the third act I would've been fine with it. but it reeked of "aw shit, we need to come up with something that presents a large scale danger to the whole city!"
maybe if they would've shown it early in the film, instead of stuffing it at the beginning of the third act I would've been fine with it. but it reeked of "aw shit, we need to come up with something that presents a large scale danger to the whole city!"
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No, but I would put Batman Forever above it. I really like Val Kilmer. =/
Honestly the grounded in reality thing hurts Rises a lot too..a lot of stuff going on that makes ya think yeah....this..yeah no.
Freewheelin'
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Great post, agree with all of it.
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That's what I mean about not just Batman. There was a fuckton of Bruce Wayne in this. Right from the start you hardly feel like you're watching Batman, but Bruce Wayne in a Batman costume. It's pretty intentional on Nolan's part to humanize the story. Not saying its you or anybody specific, but some people I have seen come away expecting a TDK story where it's all Batman in the suit, totally distinguishable from Wayne and it's not really, for most of the film.i can see where those expectations come from because I was expecting the same thing, but early on I realized Nolan was furthering the character, in an almost meta way. I could get slightly more specific without identifying plot points or anything,but that's not for this thread.
I hate the microwave emitter shit in bb with a passion, but love Bruce Wayne more than bats.
I dont mind logic leaps in nolan films, like his vehicular chase scenes but hate his hand to hand combat stuff.
Liked joker, but not biased about him.
So I guess I may like it then? Or not?
I dont mind logic leaps in nolan films, like his vehicular chase scenes but hate his hand to hand combat stuff.
Liked joker, but not biased about him.
So I guess I may like it then? Or not?
Anton Sugar
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I'm starting to think it might be my favorite, but really need a rewatch to see if some of the flaws stick out more.
Shouldn't need to be reassured by me in the first place.
BruceLeeRoy
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I know I have been really negative but I will say the conclusion is fantastic and honestly that is more important than anything else for me.
I would much rather have a epic great finish for this trilogy than a great movie with a really weak ending. I think Nolan does a great job wrapping it up.
I would much rather have a epic great finish for this trilogy than a great movie with a really weak ending. I think Nolan does a great job wrapping it up.
I think as three individual films, they're great. As a trilogy, they're incredible.
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Hand to hand stuff in this, particularly the big fights, were on point. There arent many things I won't let people get away with saying is bad about this film ( and I will let a lot slide, because it is very much not built to be everything to everyone), but the big fights were the shit.
Nicely said.
EDITED: AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH WRONG THREAD
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Ah man, bruh, too much.
Superimposer
This is getting weirder all the time
I very nearly made this mistake earlier
Mark Kermode's review + Interview with Nolan
http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/fivelive/kermode/kermode_20120720-1800a.mp3
Mostly the same questions he always gets: 3D, CGI, etc etc
He confirms that Wally won't be his DP (Yes he said DP, Sculli!) anymore now that he's a director and he's looking for a new one. He also reconfirms that he wants to do Bond and has met with the producers before.
It's going to happen, Solo. Accept it.
http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/fivelive/kermode/kermode_20120720-1800a.mp3
Mostly the same questions he always gets: 3D, CGI, etc etc
He confirms that Wally won't be his DP (Yes he said DP, Sculli!) anymore now that he's a director and he's looking for a new one. He also reconfirms that he wants to do Bond and has met with the producers before.
It's going to happen, Solo. Accept it.
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Another thing I think I can add is, if you would still have a problem with a boat scene even if it didn't have an immediate pressing dilemma with charicatures weighing the stakes and was also far meatier and more well written, then again, temper your shit. Because Nolan is ambitious about making Gotham real in this one.
the anime man
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I'd say it feels like a combination of the two films, if that makes any sense.
Indeed, it was much better than its predecessors. I felt the emotional aspects were handled better too.
HomerSimpson-Man
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Still no free time on my schedule yet to watch.
Perfect for me then. I loved different aspects of both films and I would love a combination of both films.
Perfect for me then. I loved different aspects of both films and I would love a combination of both films.
I don't get their line of thinking, everytime you go out of your house you are exposed to danger. Things can happen. Suddenly not going out because of danger is weird.
Of course, it's illogical. But whatever makes them feel a bit safer. They're afraid of copycat incidents where someone will try to copy the Aurora incident out of insanity or a crazed call for attention or something. This move, no matter how hyped I was for it, isn't worth my parents worrying about me.
MrPink93485
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What did Kermode think of it?
bryanee
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I could understand him most of the time. I actually had a harder time understanding Oldman in a couple of scenes.
I'm listening now. So far it sounds like he loves it, has issues but they didn't take away from his enjoyment.
MrPink93485
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This. Did you see it in IMAX? I really felt like I would have understood some lines better at the regular theater just because certain sounds were so loud and drowned out other lines.
clutch.as.it.gets.
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Was the Gotham atmosphere more like tdk (nice, sunny weather in a normal, sterile city) or more like begins more comic book one with cloudy weather, rain and mist?
Super secret society that once took down the Roman empire?
Microwave emitters actually exist. The one in the movie is just a lot more powerful than the weaponized ones we have today.
On top of that, I just find it implausible how Wayne Enterprises could have so much wealth and influence without being publicly traded and spend so much of its money in philanthropy and massive infrastructure projects without any desire to turn a profit.
Davey Cakes
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There were moments where I didn't understand many of the characters.
Like with TDK (and maybe Begins, I forget), some of the dialogue volume was too low, or the actors didn't say lines clearly enough.
I just got back from seeing TDKR. I enjoyed it, but probably not as much as TDK. The first hour of buildup feels messy and rushed, since a lot is packed in and they have to get the plot rolling (as well as build up Selena's motivations), but after that point it really picks up.
There's a reason Nolan's movies are long; he needs buildup time. I'm almost of the opinion that TDKR could have been two movies, with the first half being longer so that it doesn't feel as rushed, and the second half basically remaining the same.
The overall volume in my theater was pretty high when it came to the action, but not always the dialogue. Explosions and gunshots REALLY popped.
No, no IMAX for me; the closest IMAX theatre was just a little too far for a nighttime adventure and the ticket would've been more expensive. I saw it digitally projected at a regular theatre and had problems with certain scenes. I was able to get most of them by listening carefully, but some were just drowned out by music or sound effects.
It felt like a good mix of both. Youll see.
rollingstart
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Distilled down to its most basic, I agree with him completely!
Superimposer
This is getting weirder all the time
Always hard to mete exactly how enthusiastic Kermode is about a film when he likes it, but I sensed echoes with his review of Inception which he named his film of the year. He was definitely satisfied, we can say that much
The Lamonster
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I haven't seen DKR yet but I was watching BB last night and there were actually a bunch of moments in which I couldn't make out specific lines. I don't mean whole scenes or anything, just specific moments in which I had to rewind a few times and even moments in which I actually had to put on the subtitles to get every word.
I guess its just Nolan's sound editing style- he prefers performance and realism more than making sure that every word is perfectly enunciated.
Joel Was Right
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Beside there being some great scenes, the previous film trumps this I felt. The last 15 mins really saved/made this movie
Liquidsnake
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Usually its the ending of a movie with high expectations that everyone gets all up and arms about. It was handled with God hands in this one.
mocolostrocolos
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I loved the film because fuck you Nolan, that's why.
Liquidsnake
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Walking out of Inception I remember a feeling I had not felt since The Matrix. I jizzed in my pants 3-4 times during that movie.
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