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Also really liked the first Bane confrontation, but the second one was so lackluster in comparison. Way too much fistfighting.
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Also really liked the first Bane confrontation, but the second one was so lackluster in comparison. Way too much fistfighting.
Hero_of_the_Day
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That is fucking insane. So you went to the trilogy for your first time seeing them, or did you watch them at home and then head to the midnight for Rises?
Fox Mulder
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I went into this movie blind without even seeing a trailer and loved it.
Bane was a badass and even Catwoman ended up being better than I expected. It was great how Batman got the shit beaten out of him, had his back broken, and crawled out of hell just for catwoman to drive in and kill Bane like it was nothing.
Bane was a badass and even Catwoman ended up being better than I expected. It was great how Batman got the shit beaten out of him, had his back broken, and crawled out of hell just for catwoman to drive in and kill Bane like it was nothing.
Sarcastic Response
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The first fight between Bane and Batman was probably my favorite fight in the entire movie. It was so real and visceral that I was bobbing back and forth in my seat during each hit. The icing on the cake? Bane breaking Batman's back. The movie theater I was in cheered lol.
I didn't like it starting off with him a broken man 8 years later and taking so long to get back in the game.
I wanted him to become a Batman that had a lot of pre-planning for years between TDK and TDKR. Confident.
Bane felt like he was a superior strategist.
The citizens did most of the work in this movie.
I wanted him to become a Batman that had a lot of pre-planning for years between TDK and TDKR. Confident.
Bane felt like he was a superior strategist.
The citizens did most of the work in this movie.
Three that stood out for me: Mind if I cut in > Rise > Why do we fall?
Other than that, Like a dog chasing cars > everything. Though I know you love your Molossus
SerArthurDayne
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Ra's was the Pope, then the pope died. Bane took over and retooled the League. Everybody who was in the League knew Bruce was Batman. Now Bane knows Bruce is Batman.
Also, he was digging under Applied research the entire movie wasn't he? Along with the stadium and the ring around the city. I assume he knew before he ever came to Gotham.
Also, he was digging under Applied research the entire movie wasn't he? Along with the stadium and the ring around the city. I assume he knew before he ever came to Gotham.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Does anybody know which track is playing where Bruce climbs out of the pit? I initially thought it would have been 'Rise' but it obviously isn't.
Auron_Kale
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I'd prefer him to be Red Robin than Nightwing, mostly due to how much more Red Robin's gadgets/tools/weapons seem more on par with Batman's within the Nolanverse.
Doctor West
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Thomas Lennon as a doctor was really strange. It was hard to not see him as Deputy Dangle.
It was executed a bit too swiftly/cutely, but I think the gist of it was that Bruce needed something to fear again and a reason to live again to get him to the level he needed to be to endure Bane. Previously, as Alfred has eluded to, Bruce was probably going to willingly go to his death, which made him weak.
wasn't that in the final convo between them before Alfred disappears for 1/2 the movie?
Hero_of_the_Day
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The slim chance that there is any movie that follows this universe, I would really doubt he is anything other than Batman. Too much money in that name to not use it.
FlashbladeGAF
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Ra never knew he had a daughter at that point
When she escaped the pit, she somehow managed to find her father, comeback for Bane, but later Bane would be exiled from the group because of his nature. This caused the split between her and her father. not necessarily the League though. I imagine her father sending a sizable group to protect her
Fox Mulder
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kind of the same with the inception actors.
Shouta
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Ah, that was what I figured. The dialogue wasn't coming out as sharp as it should in the Imax because of all the SFX and music.
vicissitudes
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Used it to buy a bunch of bad stocks in Wayne's name and bankrupted him, leading Talia to gain control of the company.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Yes, the idea on the page was nice, but the execution was really sloppy. It really lacked the polish it deserved for a sequence like that.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, I would have liked it more if once Bruce was put in prison, we stayed with him the entire second act and returned to a Gotham on the brink.
What the hell would he be pre-planning for in between TDK and TDKR? TDK left him badly hurt both physically and psychologically. There was also no need for Batman in general during that time, laws were more strict and more criminals were behind bar. I very much appreciated the human side of Batman in this movie, this is what defines Batman from other superhero movies. He is capable of aging and accumulating damage over the course of his life span and the movie did a good enough job of portraying that. It just made his "comeback" in the movie that much more meaningful.
True. Basically after the Football stadium scene/speech it should've focused entirely on Bruce and his come back. We should've followed his journey home and his dismay at the state of Gotham once he reaches it, a dismay that would've been shared with the audience.
That was so they could access his money and bankrupt him in the stock exchange
That's a good question. Initially, I thought he wanted the prints in order to break into Wayne Industries and steal shit, but then he went and blew his way in from the sewers, so....
EDIT: answered above. Shit, I forgot that.
Sorcerer
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Totally forgot about that. Thanks for clearing that up.
Hero_of_the_Day
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Needed his prints to buy the shit stock or whatever and bankrupt him.
Fear will find you or Why do we fall? Just judging by the titles
Ahh that would make more sense
FlashbladeGAF
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It's that misdirection shit her father taught her. Bane was her Ken Watanabe
Bruce showed her where the reactor was so she directed Bane on where to dig
Auron_Kale
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Yeah, I get that, but it's kinda a shame since Batman is a symbol to inspire so if it were me, I'd take some cues but make my mask my own.
Fingerprints were to make Wayne corp poor, so dagget could buy out Wayne, that was why bane was originally brought to Gotham.
SerArthurDayne
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Stock purchase authorization to tank Wayne's holdings of Wayne Enterprises. That was plan for Dagget (sp?) to get control.
This power move forced Bruce to give control to Talia, which was the real plan all along.
The 2nd fight was much quicker and more brutal because Bane was in shock that Batman came back after being broken, and this time they both feared death unlike last time where Bane knew he could beat Batman but Batman didn't care if he died.
BurnOutBrighter
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I actually thought Blake would become Nightwing, due to his renegade attitude. But Robin is fine with me, any name that would imply a continuation of a Batman-like figure works here. Plus, Robin one of the the most recognisable names in Batman for casual viewers, so they'd understand what it meant too.
vicissitudes
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I'm a little sad that this movie doesn't seem as quotable as the other two. What will I post in this thread over the next week?!
There won't be a 4th one, and there will never be a Robin movie. It was just a thematic tease of Bruce's advice to JGL of taking up a mask.
SerArthurDayne
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I think this is probably right. Correction accepted.
But see, that's one of the weakest points of the film. At the end of TDK, he carries on despite his grief, endures infamy, and all that jazz... and then we find out at the beginning of the movie that he quit? That he's now so reckless, he willingly throws himself against Bane despite being out for eight years?
Any of Bane's lines work.
I wouldn't say that yet. It took me multiple viewings of BB and TDK to really start quoting them too. I think there was a lot of great dialogue in it. But I can't remember it. Initial viewing is kind of sensory overload.
That was an amazing line and cameo.
This movie is going to have some great gifs. I can see that Scarecrow cameo being a great banned gif.
I really can't believe this has to be explained. Miranda didn't just blow up the nuke because she was making a point. She wanted to show the world not only how corrupt Gotham as a city was but also how ineffectual the government was before destroying the city. Why do you think they televised everything? Then there was the delicious icing in that they wanted Wayne to suffer.
This was a major theme in the movie. How did people miss this?
Nope. When Batman breaks Bane's mask is when that shit becomes amazing.
SerArthurDayne
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He could be Azrael Batman! His killing the guys was essentially necessary, but he seemed a bit more ruthless than Bruce. Also, he lacks the skills to win in hand-to-hand against multiple men.
The first sentence was a joke.
Was it "Why we fall".....
hard to remember....but I'm going to watch it again soon on Imax and I'll keep an eye uhm ear out >_>
BurnOutBrighter
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Honestly, I felt indifferent to this movie after leaving the cinema. I didn't hate it, or dislike it. I just didn't particularly like it much. There were some good bits to take away though:
- The Bruce Wayne character arc was good. It felt like a definite conclusion to his story, and I'm glad they covered that.
- Anne Hathaway's performance was excellent.
- Same can be said for Michael Caine.
- The casting on the most part was superb. I had doubts about Tom Hardy as Bane when I first heard the news, but it worked very well.
Some bits irked me, however:
- The bit with Robin at the end, going into the bat cave, felt really telegraphed; I saw it coming a mile off. I don't know what it is about Joseph Gordon-Levitt's face, but the second I saw it I knew he was going to be Robin. That's not a criticism against him, mind. His performance was good.
- Talia's twist towards the end felt plotted and a bit... eh. I wish they hadn't brought the League of Shadows back into this.
On the most part though, I went into the cinema with little to no expectations, and left feeling exactly the same as I did going in. The film absolutely did not leave any impression on me whatsoever. No bitterness, and no adoration. With the other two Nolan Batman films I left feeling like I'd seen something fantastic, that I'd just watched a really good story be told, and so on. TDKR left nothing of the sort, yet at the same time I can't say it was bad because it blatantly wasn't.
I don't think I've ever watched a film that has not impacted me in any way, good or bad. The Dark Knight Rises is the first.
- The Bruce Wayne character arc was good. It felt like a definite conclusion to his story, and I'm glad they covered that.
- Anne Hathaway's performance was excellent.
- Same can be said for Michael Caine.
- The casting on the most part was superb. I had doubts about Tom Hardy as Bane when I first heard the news, but it worked very well.
Some bits irked me, however:
- The bit with Robin at the end, going into the bat cave, felt really telegraphed; I saw it coming a mile off. I don't know what it is about Joseph Gordon-Levitt's face, but the second I saw it I knew he was going to be Robin. That's not a criticism against him, mind. His performance was good.
- Talia's twist towards the end felt plotted and a bit... eh. I wish they hadn't brought the League of Shadows back into this.
On the most part though, I went into the cinema with little to no expectations, and left feeling exactly the same as I did going in. The film absolutely did not leave any impression on me whatsoever. No bitterness, and no adoration. With the other two Nolan Batman films I left feeling like I'd seen something fantastic, that I'd just watched a really good story be told, and so on. TDKR left nothing of the sort, yet at the same time I can't say it was bad because it blatantly wasn't.
I don't think I've ever watched a film that has not impacted me in any way, good or bad. The Dark Knight Rises is the first.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Man, I feel like I'm the only person on the planet who thinks that whilst JGL was good, the movie would have been entirely better off without his character. He felt like an unnecessary substitute for Gordon.
Same with Catwoman. She was enjoyable but ultimately hurt the film and was just another character stealing away much needed screentime from Bruce's journey which felt rushed.
Same with Catwoman. She was enjoyable but ultimately hurt the film and was just another character stealing away much needed screentime from Bruce's journey which felt rushed.
Why can't there be a 4th one with a different director? Do they not like money?
PS: The death deke really got me. I had the same lump you get in your throat when you watch a sad movie.
PS2: Was there an after credits scene? I didn't stick around to see
Hero_of_the_Day
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I know that's all Nolan intended. But, I could see the slightest chance of WB carrying on from there if they could get JGL on board. Not likely, but I would think it's an option they are at least considering.
EDIT: To be Clear, I think he would just be Batman. Not Robin or Knightwing.
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