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The Thomas Wayne flashback was poorly handled and ill-timed. Rather than a full blown flashback, I would have liked to have seen Bruce fail one of his jumps, fall into blackness and simply HEARD Thomas Wayne's 'Why do we fall?' over the top of it. That is enough to inform us of Bruce's mental state. The flashback comes at a time when he isn't in any need of that motivation and so it is jarring, rather than inspiring or informing the scene.

Oh god I was thinking the same exact thing when watching it.
 
Le sigh, Ras was dressed in a slick grey suit when he visited Bruce Wayne for the first time in BB, and you know where it was? It was in a prison. It made sense for him to see him dressed in that way because it was supposed to be a mirror of that scene.
 
Le sigh, Ras was dressed in a slick grey suit when he visited Bruce Wayne for the first time in BB, and you know where it was? It was in a prison. It made sense for him to see him dressed in that way because it was supposed to be a mirror of that scene.

Yeah, I thought the suit entirely apt, given that Bruce is seeing him at essentially the same state he did in BB, and the scene was lit and shot exactly like their meeting in BB, in which Ducard wore a suit.
 
I wasn't particularly mesmerized by Anne. She did a good job but she was a straight forward catburglar.

Bruce and Bane were best of show imho. Also Alfred.
 
Le sigh, Ras was dressed in a slick grey suit when he visited Bruce Wayne for the first time in BB, and you know where it was? It was in a prison. It made sense for him to see him dressed in that way because it was supposed to be a mirror of that scene.
Full circle of poetry.

Best performances were Bale, Caine, Hathaway, JGL and Hardy. I wished Caine had more time in this. It was very much like Begins where the overall cast was very solid rather than one character stealing the spotlight like the Joker in TDK.
 
Also, the more I thought about A Tale of Two Cities, the more I appreciated what was happening on screen. The book is what the Nolans based the movie on, and I suppose it seemed less of a mess to me because I was constantly reminded of the book, than it might to others.

1. Bale
2. Hathaway
3. Caine

Taking all challengers!

lolno.

1. Cillian Murphy.
2. Everyone else.
 
1. Bale
2. Hathaway
3. Caine

Taking all challengers!

Can't say I disagree with this. I was so happy to see Bale get an opportunity to show ACT again. Hathaway was a fucking joy and brought so much needed levity to the film. And Caine...fuck. The man fucking touched my heart.
 
1. Bale
2. Hathaway
3. Caine

Taking all challengers!

JGL Hardy Bale imo. I'm not even on the JGL hype train that takes off every now and then. I just thought his character's arc throughout the movie was the best fleshed out of any of them, even Batman's. Bane was well done, even if the voice was a bit jarring. I found him to be a more interesting villain than Ras.

Caine IS Alfred. He's really good. He was fucked by the script having too many characters.
 
It was rather anti-climatic, yes. Selina shoots him, the scene cuts, and he's never seen or mentioned again. Contrast that to Rhas' closing if his eyes and embracing his death, or Harvey's downward spiral, and its night and day.
Yeah, like I said earlier, probably my biggest disappointment. Especially considering the insanity of the fight between the two earlier.
 
1. Bale
2. Hathaway
3. Caine

Taking all challengers!

1. Bale
2. Caine
3. Hathaway

See, as much as I didn't like the inclusion of Catwoman, I still accept that she was enjoyable and that was much due to Hathaway's performance.

1 & 2 I'm slightly mixed on, if only because I feel that Bale had the better meat to work with. Caine was working with absolute dog shit in the script and STILL managed to make me feel for Pennyworth. Caine did the heaviest lifting in the film imo.

But right now, I think I'll keep Bale at the top. It was his film.

I've already said it before, but how fucking awesome was it having Wayne as a Gatsby figure at the start? I loved it.
 
1. Bale
2. Hathaway
3. Caine

Taking all challengers!
*bro-fist*

Bale did not disappoint, and that was the key to the whole movie for me. It had to be about Bruce Wayne as much as it was about Batman (after TDK was mostly about the Joker and Harvey Dent), and Bale had to carry it. And he did.
 
Le sigh, Ras was dressed in a slick grey suit when he visited Bruce Wayne for the first time in BB, and you know where it was? It was in a prison. It made sense for him to see him dressed in that way because it was supposed to be a mirror of that scene.

I know he was in a slick grey suit. I've seen BB countless times. I'm making the point that on a purely wardrobe level they failed because (unless my memory is wildly failing me) Ras was in a flamboyant red suit in TDKR.
 
He was killed suddenly, yes. But it also directly followed what is essentially the most powerful scene in the film. Bane's death, on the other hand, comes after Talia simply walks out and Bane and Batman fight for a few seconds before Selina ends it. Dent's death also has serious ramifications and Bane's didn't.

There wasn't much of a fight, Bane was going to strangle Batman, if Selina hadn't blown him away (it was a shot in the gasmask I believe, awesome) Batman would be dead.
 
I never liked Hathaway for some reason before this film. She won me over though. Some great eye candy in TDKR with her and Cotillard. Almost makes up for having to watch Gyllenhaal's annoying face in TDK. Why wasn't Katie Holmes brought back for TDK? I didn't think she was half bad in BB. Better than Gyllenhaal at least.
 
I don't understand the complains about Alfred being sidelined in the second half. What could there possibly have been for him to have screentime for?

Personally, I was hoping for another throwback to Begins where Alfred picks him up in a plane... Maybe some awkward silences...

Also, another thing.. the Mayor dies.. I imagine.. and nothing is ever mentioned... not even a scroller on the news
 
I know he was in a slick grey suit. I've seen BB countless times. I'm making the point that on a purely wardrobe level they failed because (unless my memory is wildly failing me) Ras was in a flamboyant red suit in TDKR.

He was not in a flamboyant red suit that's for sure. It was a grey-ish suit I believe.
 
I've already said it before, but how fucking awesome was it having Wayne as a Gatsby figure at the start? I loved it.

Wasn't he more of a Howard Hughes character? There's even a reference to Hughes when discussing Bruce being a recluse.

I thought him coming back into the limelight could have been handled better. Guy goes into hiding for 8 years, then one day sneaks into some fancy gala and no one really bothers to shake his hand? Sure they had that corny paparazzi scene, but I wanted to see the reactions of normal people. Like when he comes back from the 'dead' in Begins. That was fucking awesome.
 
The Dark Knight trilogy has had some of the best casting in recent memory.

Christian Bale
Michael Caine
Heath Ledger
Morgan Freeman
Gary Oldman
Anne Hathaway
Aaron Eckhart
JGL
Tom Hardy
Marion Cotillard
Cilian Murphy
Liam Neeson
Ken Watanabe
Tom Wilkinson
Katie Holmes
Maggie Gyllenhal


Holy shit....
 
I wish Ras had been dressed as Wayne was accustomed to seeing him. They should have made him match how he looked in BB, because he was dressed much more flamboyantly and there was a kind of disconnect with evolving the memory of Ras. Eg: See the scene (and don't hate me for this) where Kyle Reese revisits Sarah in her dream in T2. He looks the exact same as when he died, as he should.

It mirrors his attire when he visits him in the prison at the beginning of BB.

Edit: Damn, should have refreshed!
 
I loved the flashback that revealed Bane's face before it got messed up (and his final words to Talia). Totally wasn't expecting Bane to look like Logan Marshall Green.
 
I'll tell you one thing: I absolutely CANNOT wait to have a trilogy viewing day sometime this X-mas.

BB for breakfast.
TDK for lunch.
TDKR for supper.

Will be well fed that day.
 
Is there a reason Hardy isn't on the list? Dude did a fantastic job.

His voice wasn't very deep, but was very menacing.
He delivered his dialogue exceptionally well.
But the best part of his performance is how well he emoted his face, considering most of it was covered, he let his eyes do the work. Absolutely fantastic.
 
I didn't mind her character or anything, but I'm surprised at all the love and credit given to the character/roll of Catwoman.

She just didn't feel fleshed out or anything. She was realistic, to stay true to the movie's theme, but flat. There weren't any particularly moving scenes for Hathaway to act out like Michael Caine got.

I was besides myself when he just out and out trusted her only to be led into a trap. She robbed us of the Batman vs. Bane vengeance. Her character was just a tool, in the literal sense, to put scenes into motion.
 
I never liked Hathaway for some reason before this film. She won me over though. Some great eye candy in TDKR with her and Cotillard. Almost makes up for having to watch Gyllenhaal's annoying face in TDK. Why wasn't Katie Holmes brought back for TDK? I didn't think she was half bad in BB. Better than Gyllenhaal at least.

You are in the minority about Holmes. Lot of hate for her. Kind of unfair because she was thrown in with such a fantastic cast in BB that it be rough for someone as young and inexpericed as her to shine.

She was committed to another movie, or choose to do a movie called "Mad Money"
 
I'll tell you one thing: I absolutely CANNOT wait to have a trilogy viewing day sometime this X-mas.

BB for breakfast.
TDK for lunch.
TDKR for supper.

Will be well fed that day.

I can't wait to do it... without having to sit in a theater for 9 hours.
 
Is there a reason Hardy isn't on the list? Dude did a fantastic job.

He was good with what he had, but I just didn't feel his character was meaty enough. I agree with the criticism that this film should have only had Bane, or only had Miranda. Both of them got the short end of the stick, development wise.
 
here's a question, what was going on with the blood transfusion at the start? I thought it was gonna become a venom part of the story....but nothing seemed to come from it.
 
I really wished I had went on media black out a long time ago, images of Marion cotillard walking menacingly pretty much confirmed what I thought about her casting to begin with and so I expected that twist. I suppose I would have been suspicious anyways since they talked about the child of Rhas, and Marion being an oddly exotic casting choice.
 
I didn't mind her character or anything, but I'm surprised at all the love and credit given to the character/roll of Catwoman.

She just didn't feel fleshed out or anything. She was realistic, to stay true to the movie's theme, but flat.

I was besides myself when he just out and out trusted her only to be led into a trap. She robbed us of the Batman vs. Bane vengeance.

I'm not sure how there wasn't payback, Batman beat Bane in their second fight. Did you want Batman to kill him?
 
It was rather anti-climatic, yes. Selina shoots him, the scene cuts, and he's never seen or mentioned again. Contrast that to Rhas' closing if his eyes and embracing his death, or Harvey's downward spiral, and its night and day.

yep hated that... Ra's had the pimpest death.
 
Need more Eames love

1. Bale
2. Hardy (acting with his fucking eyes)
3. Hathaway

here's a question, what was going on with the blood transfusion at the start? I thought it was gonna become a venom part of the story....but nothing seemed to come from it.

Put Dr. Pavols blood in someone else to seem like the guy already dead was him. No one would be looking for him afterwards then
 
I'll tell you one thing: I absolutely CANNOT wait to have a trilogy viewing day sometime this X-mas.

BB for breakfast.
TDK for lunch.
TDKR for supper.

Will be well fed that day.

lol the first thing I thought of when leaving the cinema was I'm having that boxing day marathon with many turkey Sandwiches.
 
here's a question, what was going on with the blood transfusion at the start? I thought it was gonna become a venom part of the story....but nothing seemed to come from it.
Transferred some of the doctor's blood into the corpse to make it look like the doctor died in the plane crash.
 
here's a question, what was going on with the blood transfusion at the start? I thought it was gonna become a venom part of the story....but nothing seemed to come from it.

Just a way for authorities to think that it was Dr. Pavel who died in the crash, even this ruse would probably not work at all in real life
 
here's a question, what was going on with the blood transfusion at the start? I thought it was gonna become a venom part of the story....but nothing seemed to come from it.

Didn't you catch the part where they said the fission expert was dead? That's because Bane did the transfusion into the other guy. Scientist lived, but they ID'd him as dead in the crash because of the blood.
 
Mixed feelings about Catwoman. I thought the script was great, even the performance at times, but I still didn't like Hathaway that much.

Everything else was pretty good, but it's probably my least favorite of the 3. Despite being on a media blackout I saw all the twists coming, but I guess that's normal, the average person isn't supposed to know about Thalia.

The Backbreaker though was very hype.
 
I'm not sure how there wasn't payback, Batman beat Bane in their second fight. Did you want Batman to kill him?

I wanted Batman to rip that mask off, give us an unmasked moment that wasn't the flashback so we can humanize Bane just a bit more, and then leave him there to suffer/be arrested.

But they needed to give Hathaway redemption I guess. For betraying him to Bane the first time. It makes sense. It felt too sudden though.
 
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