CFA response to anti-gay alleg. "Guilty as charged." Do NOT gloat about eating at CFA

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I found the discussion in this thread very interesting, it's the classic "principles vs comfort" weighing scale where people go different lengths in boycotting companies/services because of ethical standards behind those companies/services.

While I was thinking about it today, I actually came to an interesting question: what if people believe Chick-Fil-A's anti-gay campaigning isn't effective?

Now, I'm European so this establishment is not available to me, and I'm not interested in ever trying their food because I'm pro-same-sex marriage, and if I visited the US there'd be a variety of other fast food restaurants to try out. However, if I would buy something there, would I REALLY be supporting the anti-gay agenda? Like people have said, the US is slowly but steadily turning more progressive and I remember the 50% barrier has been reached in general public polls about same-sex marriage approval quite a while ago. Does Chick-fil-A's lobbying and support for an anti-gay agenda (or pro-traditional marriage, however you want to frame it) really have an influence on this evolution? Because if they don't, the portion of my money that goes towards the anti-gay agenda (which may be negligible; they DO have to produce the food with that money too, after all) is not actually advancing the anti-gay agenda per se. Marriage equality is gaining ground irregardless, so whether or not I support Chick-fil-A would be meaningless. You could give yourself a personal "moral score" or something, but in reality it wouldn't actually change anything. Same-sex marriage legality is the future, regardless of that Chick-fil-A sandwich or not. So why deny myself the pleasure?

Ofcourse if I'm underestimating the political clout Chick-fil-A has on this particular political issue, my point is moot. But I'm not knowledgeable enough to judge that, and I'm more interested in the theoretical value of my question anyway since I don't have to make the decision.
 
ViewtifulJC said:
Update: Now eating the Chick-Fil-A

Oh god why is it so good, goddamn you, bigoted chicken establishment

I'm like :) but really like :(
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You might want to edit this?

I dunno, but it seems most of the people bragging about eating at CFA (in this thread) have been banned.

edit: AHHHH.... the not at

And I didn't see your earlier post either. Ignore this.
 
Metrotab said:
While I was thinking about it today, I actually came to an interesting question: what if people believe Chick-Fil-A's anti-gay campaigning isn't effective.
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For me, to put it simply, it's just marriage. It's everything that they and the FRC do to hinder the advancement of LGBT people in the nation. The advocacy of gay to straight groups and just the general spread of misinformation about gay people is too much for me.

And this guy's whole laissez-faire attitude about this stuff while keeping that Christian smile makes just makes me ugh.
 
I ate there before not really knowing their stance, and tbh it wasn't that great. I just had a grilled chicken sandwich and it was kind of rubbery. Carls junior is way better in terms of chicken sandwiches.
 
I have never had a bad fried chicken sandwich and I don't think a properly made one exists. So goodbye Chik Fil A, this was the easiest boycott ever.
 
Most bitch but not all of them have the stones to take actions because it causes them inconvenience. Change... is difficult and our complacency and tolerance based on the principles of daily comforts is the key reason why bias or prejudice hasn't been quashed completely.

I haven't been to US so far but when I do I'd never go to this restaurant and tell my friends to do the same.
 
If you have a problem with the people who own and run Chick-Fil-A, the best thing you can do is to keep spending your money there. Why? Because this...

Mark 10:25
It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
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Send them to Hell!!! Mwahaha!!!!
 
Metrotab said:
While I was thinking about it today, I actually came to an interesting question: what if people believe Chick-Fil-A's anti-gay campaigning isn't effective?
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To the extent they're not doing harm it's going to be hard to argue that there's a moral obligation to refrain from patronizing CFA.

But CFA could still be offensive even if their actual campaigning is ineffective. A restaurant chain could for some bizarre reason adopt a Nazi theme and decorate its locations with material extremely offensive to Jews. This probably wouldn't be helping the neo-Nazi cause in any meaningful way just because that cause is an awfully hard one to promote, and might even be hurting it by creating a target for mockery. But it still seems like there's some obligation to boycott it, because the restaurant itself is offensive to Jews, and each physical location is an insult to them (and one that's somewhat hard to avoid, if they're right on the side of the highway and have billboards, etc).

CFA obviously isn't as offensive as that restaurant chain would be, but if it's particularly open about its bigotry (which it is), there's a case to be made that CFA is at least somewhat offensive in its own right, and merely by existing and publicizing these opinions is insulting to gay people. I think this is probably a better reason for a boycott than is the fraction of a cent you'd be giving to immoral causes by buying a sandwich from them, and is probably the underlying reason why people are so upset about that fraction of a cent (many in this thread are clearly not making a utilitarian argument against going to CFA that considers only the value to the anti-gay cause of that money and the value to the diner of the chicken sandwich).
 
What the fuck is sacred about marriage? It started out as a socially acceptable form of sex trade; a father sells his daughter to be the slave of a man who in return trades land / money / cattle / influence.
 
Wow, just went back and looked at all the bans. Geez, seems that everyone who was complimenting Chick Fil A in this thread has a grey name now.
Or a red one.
 
I've been in the process of reverse engineering their chicken batter. I haven't succeeded yet (but I DO have an original one that is just plain better... but I can't prove that without a taste test), but once I do, I shall no longer be shackled to this corporation!
 
Does being a christian really entitle you to shit all over everyone's else's beliefs? I'm not religious at all, and it's times like these I'm glad I'm not.
 
To the chodes wondering how to get an alternative: cook it your self. Making breaded chicken is one of the easiest things to do unless youre some sort of invalid.
 
Subprime said:
To the chodes wondering how to get an alternative: cook it your self. Making breaded chicken is one of the easiest things to do unless youre some sort of invalid.
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As someone who DOES cook it himself, making breaded chicken is easy. Making breaded chicken that tastes the same as Chick-Fil-A's is not.

Still not a good reason to support them, but that's not a good argument to not support them for people who want their chicken either.
 
The Adder said:
As someone who DOES cook it himself, making breaded chicken is easy. Making breaded chicken that tastes the same as Chick-Fil-A's is not.

Still not a good reason to support them, but that's not a good argument to not support them for people who want their chicken either.
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I dont know about them, but breaded chicken fried in olive oil + a generous portion of sesame oil beats the shit out of pretty much any fast food chicken.
 
Death Dealer said:
I wouldn't fry it in olive oil, its got too strong of a flavor for fried chicken, I'd use lard or vegetable oil.
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The flavor is good though. and its better for you. I dont actually have any vegetable oil in my house so I cant compare. Sesame oil is better than it all, I would cook everything in it if it was more plentiful / had a higher point of combustion.
 
Yeah ours probably isnt. We get it in a large metal container. I just use it as a thing to fry shit in that isnt horrible for me, or for pizza dough recipes.
 
Subprime said:
I dont know about them, but breaded chicken fried in olive oil + a generous portion of sesame oil beats the shit out of pretty much any fast food chicken.
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Frying olive oil hot enough to properly fry chicken will definitely burn your house down. Pan fry, sure, but do not deep fry anything in olive oil.
 
Stinkles said:
Frying olive oil hot enough to properly fry chicken will definitely burn your house down. Pan fry, sure, but do not deep fry anything in olive oil.
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Christ who the fuck would deep fry with olive oil? you need so much of it to do that. I just fry htem normally in a thin layer of the stuff.
 
ViewtifulJC said:
Why couldn't this has been some shitty fast food joint like McDonalds or Taco Bell :(
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I know man. I want to have one last hurrah meal but I'd feel too guilty when I talk to my cuz. :(

Subprime said:
To the chodes wondering how to get an alternative: cook it your self. Making breaded chicken is one of the easiest things to do unless youre some sort of invalid.
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Still wouldn't be as quick. Still wouldn't be as delicious. Plus, I can't cook for shit. Guess that makes me an invalid according to Subprime mortgage.

Subprime said:
Christ who the fuck would deep fry with olive oil? you need so much of it to do that. I just fry htem normally in a thin layer of the stuff.
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All these invalids mang.
 
Bay Maximus said:
I know man. I want to have one last hurrah meal but I'd feel too guilty when I talk to my cuz. :(



Still wouldn't be as quick. Still wouldn't be as delicious. Plus, I can't cook for shit. Guess that makes me an invalid according to Subprime mortgage.



All these invalids mang.
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dude. You take chicken, you flower it, eg it, bread it then leave it then put it into a pan for a few minutes. Needing people to cook for you is like asking people to wipe your ass.

back to topic: fuck chic fil a
 
Drove past a Chick-Fil-A today and the line was out the door and wrapped around the building. It looked like there were buses driven to the restaurant with intents to purposely feed and support their cause. Lots of people with signs supporting them, outside table setup with families doing what looked like face painting etc...

Its weird, it reminds me so much of the Prop 8 stuff that went on here in CA. People really do pick their side on this issue, I mean passionately.
 
richiek said:
Boston Mayor Vows To Block Chick-Fil-A From Opening Restaurant After Anti-Gay Remarks



Good for Boston.
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Hot damn at the comments on that Herald article.

What kind of bigotry and hatred is this? The fascist on the left have not changed tactics since they killed the opposition in germany. The hate and intolerance they show every day is despicable. How is it in a free country that radical extremist feel they have the right to tell everyone they must agree with the abnormal 3%?
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