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Sandman punching a dog in the face, Peter's weirdo immigrant landlord, French Bruce Campbell, creepy-ass butler, the pie scene, emo Peter...man, so good. If you listen to the commentary track on the movie, they refer to it several times as a comedy, which seems like they're rewriting history, but the movie works so well as a comedy that I have no idea what to believe.

That movie works so well as a joke maybe.
 
I dunno, maybe like a monument or something? That's what the police force used to communicate with Batman. It just makes sense for the city to repair it. To remember him.
They did have ''Harvey Dent Day'' afterall.

They memorialized Batman with the statue. The symbol was Bruce being a sly old dog and letting Gordon know whats up.

Come on, guys.

Gordon, Blake, Selina, Lucious, Alfred. All know Bruce is alive.
 
I cant believe people think JGL is going to become batman or something. Batman died in this movie. Bruce Wayne died too. (for the general public in the movie at least)

What was he doing in the cave then?

Batman is a symbol who appears when the city needs him.
 
It basically gave them an excuse for Nolan to work out some half-ass Occupy Wall-Street movement, and then sweep it under the rug for third act giant James bond doomsday device stuff. There's all this chaos with the civilians and shit in that one montage, and then by the third act people are just living inside their houses in fear. It's a weird tonal shift.

I admittedly never thought about this when I watched the film. I suppose you're right that there wasn't much to the civilians beyond that one montage; it did its job for me by helping create an oppressive atmosphere for the main characters to be living in but it is admittedly rather inconsistent. Oh well. It's not a perfect movie, but I still loved it.
 
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"'But we are initiated, aren't we?' Oh fucking tits, that's brilliant!"

Ohhhhhhhh yea. Loved that line.
 
And yes, I got chills with how they remade Bruce's entrance into the Batcave in Begins with Blake.
The Blake stuff felt so natural to me. It was stunning. Even the Robin reveal got me, because, again, NOLAN SAID HE'D NEVER DO ROBIN!! Blew me away. I thought he'd just be abnormal rogue, maybe try to Batman in a super small time way. But then the ending hit with Bruce giving him so much stuff and it was...wow, Nolan, you son of a bitch.
 
They memorialized Batman with the statue. The symbol was Bruce being a sly old dog and letting Gordon know whats up.

Come on, guys.
This will be our Inception top.

Or our "I can't believe Nolan used the cut where Ledger accidentally spilled the wine!
 
I cant believe people think JGL is going to become batman or something. Batman died in this movie. Bruce Wayne died too. (for the general public in the movie at least)

Then he can be Robin at least. WB would be stupid not to try and cash in...
 
Also how was Alfred talking about Bane with Bruce not a straight up rip off of Rocky III?


This was pretty much the Rocky III of the batman flicks.
 
That's a funny point. Because at the end, Bane decides to kill Batman instead of letting him experience the nuke for himself.

The plan was Talia's not Bane's

Bane was her right hand

And the fact that he loved her and Bruce got a taste probably didn't sit well with him.
 
And yes, I got chills with how they remade Bruce's entrance into the Batcave in Begins with Blake.

Nolan should just use BOO! BATS OUT OF FUCKING NOWHERE in the rest of his movies


When it happened during the climb out my brother said to me "...aanndd that's where I would fall and die."
 
Also how was Alfred talking about Bane with Bruce not a straight up rip off of Rocky III?


This was pretty much the Rocky III of the batman flicks.

lmao yes! He was breaking down his speed and shit like he was an ESPN analyst.

I bet Alfred has Bane's rookie card and memorized all of his stats.
 
TDK:
"I'm whatever Gotham needs me to be."

"He's the hero Gotham deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So we'll hunt him, Because he can take it. Because he's not a hero. He's a dark knight."

He's a silent guardian. A watchful protector. A Dark Knight."

Cut to 8 years later he's a broken man with a bum leg, out of the loop, hasn't talked to Fox in a long time, didn't go to the doctor really, and takes a lot time to put on the suit.

That's a direct contradiction to me.

I wanted and was hyped for someone confident and waiting.

As far as what he would be planning for? Well if you change one aspect of the story then others can change too? Like him being aware of threats coming Gotham's way?



In a way, people who said he was still Batman for some time in those 8 years were right. His mission to clean up the streets completed, he simply moved on to the next phase for saving Gotham - clean energy. So he was still kinda 'Batman', just without the badass stuff.

(and probably sometime within this 'optimistic' period of his life, he made all the cool stuff in the Batcave)

It's only when he realised the plan can never be (I forgot the timeline - did the project take like 5 years?), that he started remembering Rachel, drowning in depression and went into seclusion.

I like that they managed to tie in the need for a doomsday device in this movie into Bruce's character arc.
 
one thing that bugged me, how did Gotham change from looking like Chicago to New York all of a sudden... shouldn't they have kept the filming locations the same?
 
Just got out of it. I really liked it, a nice wrap-up to a great trilogy of movies. Were there weird bits? Of course. Did they detract from the overall quality? Nope.
 
People hate on cheese way too much.

Cheese is one thing in a film like Spider-Man 2 because it fits with the tone of the work to be a bit more tongue-in-cheek. When someone like Nolan creates a "grounded but not entirely realistic" setting for his films, I think it's only natural that people would be a little less accepting of cheese—that goes for any serious work really.

Incidentally, I think the worst line of the movie for me was when Selina had Daggett talking about the "clean slate" and basically dumping exposition on the audience. I get what the line was supposed to be—a way to explain what it was to the audience by having the character mock the possibility of such a thing—but that was one of the times when neither the actor nor the writing sold me. It honestly felt like one of the most amateurish scenes since the microwave emitter of Begins was found to be stolen.
 
TDK:
"I'm whatever Gotham needs me to be."

"He's the hero Gotham deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So we'll hunt him, Because he can take it. Because he's not a hero. He's a dark knight."

He's a silent guardian. A watchful protector. A Dark Knight."

Cut to 8 years later he's a broken man with a bum leg, out of the loop, hasn't talked to Fox in a long time, didn't go to the doctor really, and takes a lot time to put on the suit.

That's a direct contradiction to me.

I wanted and was hyped for someone confident and waiting.

As far as what he would be planning for? Well if you change one aspect of the story then others can change too? Like him being aware of threats coming Gotham's way?

I kinda agree with this.

It felt like it Nolan was basically pissing on his own ending.
 
Did anyone else find it odd how there was so much looking back on the series in this movie, but with the glaring omission of the Joker?

We all know the why - Nolan had no desire to revisit anything tied to Ledger. Which is understandable, but man did it ever feel weird. Rhas, Scarecrow, Dent, Rachel's death - literally ALL the major players and events in Bruce's live were revisited, except the Joker.

Totally. Such a shame. I'm positive we would have at least seen Joker when all the prisoners were freed.

TDKR felt more like a spiritual successor to BB than TDK.
 
The only thing I would have changed was the ending when Alfred was sitting at the table at the restaurant. He should have just looked up, appeared mildly shocked, and slowly start to smile.....end credits.
 
If the bat's flying out of the nowhere gave you a sense of cheese, then the fact that Bruce is thrown into a well in the first place should too. And if that's the case then all I can do is remind you that this is a comicbook movie with an emphasis in such things.
 
OMG when Bane kicks Batman over the edge and then climbs down the chain like an animal after him was SO FUCKING BAWSS.

<Bane Thug> Hey Bane, there are stairs there. You know you could just walk dow....god damn it, he's doing the chain shit again. STOP SHOWING OFF!
 
I cant believe people think JGL is going to become batman or something. Batman died in this movie. Bruce Wayne died too. (for the general public in the movie at least)

The intent is undoubtedly that JGL will become Batman or something (Nightwing, Batwing who knows) in the story. It's doubtful there will ever be or was intended to be a film depicting that though.
 
lmao yes! He was breaking down his speed and shit like he was an ESPN analyst.

I bet Alfred has Bane's rookie card and memorized all of his stats.

''This guy...is a wrecking machine!''

haha. they even have a statue of Batman at the end of the flick. just like Rocky III.
 
If the bat's flying out of the nowhere gave you a sense of cheese, then the fact that Bruce is thrown into a well in the first place should too. And if that's the case then all I can do is remind you that this is a comicbook movie with an emphasis in such things.

That scene was strong without the bats flying out from nowhere.

When they flew out, it was overkill.

I chuckled in disbelief when it happened.
 
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