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Okay, so over the course of 8 Batman movies (B66, B89, BR, BF, B&R, BB, TDK, TDKR), we've seen:

The Joker - 3 times (Cesar Romero, Jack Nicholson, Heath Ledger)
Harvey Dent - 3 times (Billy Dee Williams, Tommy Lee Jones, Aaron Eckhart)
Catwoman - 3 times (Lee Meriwether, Michelle Pfieffer, Anna Hathaway)
The Penguin - 2 times (Burgess Meredith, Danny DeVito)
The Riddler - 2 times (Frank Gorshwin, Jim Carrey)
Bane - 2 times (Robert Swendson, Tom Hardy)
Mr. Freeze - 1 time (Arnold Schwartnezegger)
Poison Ivy - 1 time (Uma Thurman)
Scarecrow - 1 time (Cillian Murphy)
Rhas Al Ghul - 1 time (Liam Neeson)
Talia Al Ghul - 1 time (Marion Cotillard)

Need some of the rogues gallery who haven't been given a shot to receive a chance. Black Mask, Clayface, Hugo Strange, etc. Let's go!

This, a million times this. Would love to see them to Clayface, such an emotionally distraught villain.
 
Lizard in TASM has scared me off Croc for a while but even though Sandman fucking sucked for the most part, the first time he attacks New York looks great and I think Clayface could do the same thing.

Yeah Lizard gave me similar thoughts. Clayface isn't my favourite villan either, but I could see it working.

Hush/Great White Shark forever!
 
Except you can since BB was the first film and Batman was still learning. He also couldn't turn his head in that suit. TDK focused on how he was constantly adapting, including adding the new neck piece in the beginning. It's entirely feasible that he added some voice masker between the end of BB and the beginning of TDK.

I am almost positive they mentioned the voice thing in the suit in TDK. Or am I mixing it up with the comics?
 
Okay, so over the course of 8 Batman movies (B66, B89, BR, BF, B&R, BB, TDK, TDKR), we've seen:

The Joker - 3 times (Cesar Romero, Jack Nicholson, Heath Ledger)
Harvey Dent - 3 times (Billy Dee Williams, Tommy Lee Jones, Aaron Eckhart)
Catwoman - 3 times (Lee Meriwether, Michelle Pfieffer, Anna Hathaway)
The Penguin - 2 times (Burgess Meredith, Danny DeVito)
The Riddler - 2 times (Frank Gorshwin, Jim Carrey)
Bane - 2 times (Robert Swendson, Tom Hardy)
Mr. Freeze - 1 time (Arnold Schwartnezegger)
Poison Ivy - 1 time (Uma Thurman)
Scarecrow - 1 time (Cillian Murphy)
Rhas Al Ghul - 1 time (Liam Neeson)
Talia Al Ghul - 1 time (Marion Cotillard)

Need some of the rogues gallery who haven't been given a shot to receive a chance. Black Mask, Clayface, Hugo Strange, etc. Let's go!

Its time for Orca and Baby Doll to get their due!

BTW you can add Zzazz to the list as well.
 
They certainly had more chemisty than Bruce and Miranda.

I remember some pages ago people were saying THAT relationship made more sense than Bruce/Selina. Why is that again?

Smh I wished Talia/Batman was more like the comics. Bruce and the Tate persona had nothing going on besides a one nighter.
 
http://tally-art.blogspot.ca/2012/07/we-forge-our-friendship-by-saving-world.html

Some of these comics are cute.

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I loved Selina and Bruce's relationship in this movie. Was adorable in a hilarious cruel way.

"I'm sorry you lost all your money."

"No you're not!"

"You wouldn't hit a woman like I wouldn't hit a cripple."

*hits a cripple*

Their interactions had me in stitches.

Fixed it a little:


"I'm sorry you lost all your money."

"No you're not ^_^ "
 
It's not that difficult to figure that Bruce is Batman. All of Bruce's comings and goings, his physical appearance and disfigurements, all coincide with Batman's. He's the only person wealthy enough to fund that kind of operation. The only reason no one would actually believe it is because no one would buy Bruce Wayne (as he presents himself) being any kind of heroic figure.

Blake can tell that Bruce, as he sells himself, is just a mask. Once you realize that, the coincidences that link Bruce to Batman become more believable.

This all makes sense it just felt rushed in the movie.
 
Sums up how I felt as well. My only major complaint would be Bane's death but other than that it was very enjoyable.

My only gripe would be that Alfred talking about Florence right at the beginning immediately told me how the film was going to end. The reveal of Blake's first name and of Miranda's real intention were quite clear to me too (over use of Blake's surname and the focus on Miranda's scar on her back by the camera at the Wayner Manor Love Inn).

But to be honest, in those final five minutes, I didn't care. I had been swept along like all the rest. Hence my satisfaction.
 
I don't believe for a second Bruce lost all of his money. Rich and paranoid people like him would always have a stash somewhere.

Loved that all his friends know he's still alive and kicking and probably happy somewhere. I know I'd be if I were tooling around Italy with Anne Hathaway.

Too bad there wasn't more of Alfred. That was disappointing. Also, seriously, what the fuck, Nolan? No third Batman/Scarecrow interaction? Would have been awesome to see Batman put him in his place again.
 
"I have all the characteristics of a human being: blood, flesh, skin, hair; but not a single, clear, identifiable emotion, except for greed and disgust. Something horrible is happening inside of me and I don't know why. My nightly bloodlust has overflown into my days. I feel lethal, on the verge of frenzy. I think my mask of sanity is about to slip."

- Bruce Wane, Batman: The Dark Knight Rises
 
I still REALLY need a second viewing, but right now my gut feeling is BB > TDKR > TDK.

Going to be watching it again tomorrow, and I'm fairly certain I'm going to draw the same conclusion. There's just so much goodness in this movie, despite some baffling decisions. But hey, it wouldn't be a Nolan movie if it didn't have those.
 
I think whatever happens next Harley is the one character I really want to see. I imagine we would've in this movie had we not lost Ledger. I hope one day they'll be willing to talk about what rough ideas they had for this originally before that happened. Very curious about that.
 
Too bad there wasn't more of Alfred. That was disappointing. Also, seriously, what the fuck, Nolan? No third Batman/Scarecrow interaction? Would have been awesome to see Batman put him in his place again.
Psh, Crane is awesome. He's great in every scene he's in, plus he looked awesome with his ripped feathery coat.

Batman keeps putting him down but he's still coming back and doing his thing in every movie.
 
yeah idk why they were too lazy to change two letters in Blake's name, like wtf.
Because they wanted people to keep guessing/speculating on the plot/character. If he walks in and says "I'm rookie cop DICK GRAYSON/TIM DRAKE" we immediately know when he comes on screen what his character arc is going to be. Hell, we would even know once he was cast and his character's name was given back in 2010 or whatever.
Even though as the movie goes on, it becomes apparent that he is becoming Batmans protege.
 
Just got back from the show. Thoroughly enjoyed my self.

Not as good as TDK, but the greatest comic book movie of all time is a haaaaard act to follow.

The only things I disliked was the Disney-esque ending, and making Bane look like a bitch in the last minutes of the movie. God fucking damn it, Nolan/Goyer. =/

Gonna see it again next week for sure.
 
just remembering how bad I felt watching that first Batman/Bane fight...you just knew he was in for a beating....upsetting.
 
Those last 2 minutes man, gave me chills throughout. Just like in Inception when they all wake up on the plane staring at each knowing they accomplished Inception. Gotta love Chris Nolan!
 
There were quite a few chuckles at the "alligators in the sewers"remark.

overall i loved the movie. there are quite a few holes, but no levels of retardation that was the boatscene in TDK.

i also loved hardy, he really is menacing everytime he's in the shot.
 
I was also pleasantly surprised by how much I enjoyed Catwoman. I thought she might annoy me, but I enjoyed her presence every time.

Never doubt Nolan's casting.
 
I still REALLY need a second viewing, but right now my gut feeling is BB > TDKR > TDK.

Ha. It's the exact opposite for me.


I was also pleasantly surprised by how much I enjoyed Catwoman. I thought she might annoy me, but I enjoyed her presence every time.

Never doubt Nolan's casting.

Me too. I was blown away by how amazing and believable she was as Cat Woman. I was sure she'd be the worst part of the film, and she turned out being the highlight of it for me.
 
You know, on reflection, I really don't feel like the final act had nearly as much tension as the previous two movies. I would need to watch all three relativly close together to say for sure but I don't think I was invested in "they might nuke the city" as much as the gas plot in BB or whatever Joker was doing in TDK
 
There were quite a few chuckles at the "alligators in the sewers"remark.

overall i loved the movie. there are quite a few holes, but no levels of retardation that was the boatscene in TDK.

i also loved hardy, he really is menacing everytime he's in the shot.
Man, you should see him in Bronson. Sooo good.
 
Fucking godlike is allI have to say.The way Bane wasportrayed the power, the intelligence, so damn good.

I loved how it ended, don't think it could have ended better. The music, the fight, the Imax, everything.

BEST. TRILOGY. EVER.
 
I was also pleasantly surprised by how much I enjoyed Catwoman. I thought she might annoy me, but I enjoyed her presence every time.

Never doubt Nolan's casting.
Seriously. I was hugely skeptical of Anne Hathaway. I've never liked ANY of her previous roles. But she really nailed it.

And to add my two cents: TDK > TDKR > BB.
 
Nolan is really bad at framing action scenes.

That Bane/Batman fight on the steps of that building was hilarious. The background was just cops and prisoners hugging each other.
 
Really thought Nolan nailed all the hard parts (the ending, Catwoman, Robin reveal wasn't too cheesy) but everything in between was pretty poor. Especially the Bane/Talia stuff. When the climax of your second act is a menial physical act and the third act is the classic martyr dragging the time bomb then you know your villain is pretty weak. There was no tension, and the absolutely ludicrous, even by comic book movie standards, social experiment bullshit (coupled with OWS overtones... like really?) was ridiculous from the premise to the execution.

BB > TDK >>> TDKR. Take off everything after the joker is beaten in TDK and it's better than BB.

edit: and there was WAY too many "action-y" scenes in this. there was no chance for everything to build up so none of them had anywhere near the impact of the scenes in BB or TDK had.
 
The stupid BATMAN FLIES A BOMB OUT TO SEA climax is about on par with The Dark Knight's HULKING MONSTER CRIMINAL TEACHES US TO BELIEVE. Comparatively, the TDK's climax is in no way less silly and cheesy as this.
 
You know, on reflection, I really don't feel like the final act had nearly as much tension as the previous two movies. I would need to watch all three relativly close together to say for sure but I don't think I was invested in "they might nuke the city" as much as the gas plot in BB or whatever Joker was doing in TDK

I feel the exact opposite. There wasn't anywhere near as much tension surrounding the gas plot. In my opinion of course
 
Seriously. I was hugely skeptical of Anne Hathaway. I've never liked ANY of her previous roles. But she really nailed it.

She nailed it, and had some fantastic scenes, but the writing did not do her any favors. Anytime she started talking about money or society I cringed.
 
Okay, so over the course of 8 Batman movies (B66, B89, BR, BF, B&R, BB, TDK, TDKR), we've seen:

The Joker - 3 times (Cesar Romero, Jack Nicholson, Heath Ledger)
Harvey Dent - 3 times (Billy Dee Williams, Tommy Lee Jones, Aaron Eckhart)
Catwoman - 3 times (Lee Meriwether, Michelle Pfieffer, Anna Hathaway)
The Penguin - 2 times (Burgess Meredith, Danny DeVito)
The Riddler - 2 times (Frank Gorshwin, Jim Carrey)
Bane - 2 times (Robert Swendson, Tom Hardy)
Mr. Freeze - 1 time (Arnold Schwartnezegger)
Poison Ivy - 1 time (Uma Thurman)
Scarecrow - 1 time (Cillian Murphy)
Rhas Al Ghul - 1 time (Liam Neeson)
Talia Al Ghul - 1 time (Marion Cotillard)

Need some of the rogues gallery who haven't been given a shot to receive a chance. Black Mask, Clayface, Hugo Strange, etc. Let's go!

Julie Newmar, the best 60s Catwoman
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I liked it...

I just wish I didn't sit through BB and TDK before the movie, because I was ready for it to end, or for Bane to give me permission to die.

But seriously, Talia's little explanation at the end really brought on the cheese. Bane is an immovable force through out the movie, and Talia's explains away his motives in an "anime villain expose" that came off long winded and hurt his character. This is why I liked Joker, he didn't need an origin or reason... he just acted.

I also like how from the beginning, Bruce is put in a loosing situation between having Rolland Daggett take his company, or selling it to Talia.
 
You know, on reflection, I really don't feel like the final act had nearly as much tension as the previous two movies. I would need to watch all three relativly close together to say for sure but I don't think I was invested in "they might nuke the city" as much as the gas plot in BB or whatever Joker was doing in TDK

I think the final act climaxes of all three films are their weakest points. They always seem to betray the realistic tone prior in the films. So you have a movie that's somewhat realistic, then they add this extraordinary event that doesn't feel as real, and it kind of divorces the viewer from the story. In that respect, I suppose TDK was the most grounded (ridiculous sonar tech aside), and might be one of the reason why I enjoyed it more than the others. (I think it's mostly Joker though: none of the other villains are anywhere near as interesting as him.)
 
I will give them credit: on reflection "bankrupt Bruce Wayne and make him think an asshole is taking over his company in order to get him to trust your secret villain with the power and access to a nuclear device" as far as villainous plots go was actually pretty well executed.
 
The stupid BATMAN FLIES A BOMB OUT TO SEA climax is about on par with The Dark Knight's HULKING MONSTER CRIMINAL TEACHES US TO BELIEVE. Comparatively, the TDK's climax is in no way less silly and cheesy as this.

but TDK's climax was exactly that, a climax. TDKR uses that as a premise for the entire fucking film and it just drags on and on and on with this stupid underground police plot and then adds the martyr stuff on top of that. Didn't TDK already prove that "GOTHAM IS FULL OF PEOPLE THAT ARE GOOD" /batmangrunt (or something to that nature). why do we need another stupid social experiment?
 
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