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[EatChildren]

Gat dam Marion Cotillard is so hot.

 

[Forceatowulf]

Ditto

TDk > TDKR > BB

Yeah this is my personal ranking too.

Funny thing, that's exactly how my Star Wars and LotR rankings go as well... fucking eerie.....

 

[Solo]

i thought the Begins-scene, where gordon puts a coat on young bruce, was totally unneeded.

ALL the flashbacks were unnecessary. Nolan/WB REALLY didn't trust their audience there, which stinks.

If they wanted to pay homage to the previous films, it should have either been done much more subtly (ie. through dialogue) or done like Rhas was - have the actor come back in and shoot new footage.

 

[Wilbur]

Gat dam Marion Cotillard is so hot.

She's the hottest woman alive. Plus she's just after pregs and those tits HOLY SHIT

 

[HiiiLife]

I couldn't help but think one of the scenes looked totally fake. Like wtf is this Nolan?

 

[Ghost_Protocol]

I love how Morgan Freeman plays Morgan Freeman in every movie he's in, and he's just as likeable every time. It's amazing.

 

[relaxor]

gotta go see this again, so much of the dialogue was drowned out by the music in my theater. I'd like to hear some of that bane speak..

 

[neorej]

ALL the flashbacks were unnecessary. Nolan/WB REALLY didn't trust their audience there, which stinks.

If they wanted to pay homage to the previous films, it should have either been done much more subtly (ie. through dialogue) or done like Rhas was - have the actor come back in and shoot new footage.

true, i hope the bluray allows you to leave those flashbacks out, asi will watch the trilogy in 1 go this winter.

 

[Salvor.Hardin]

I couldn't help but think one of the scenes looked totally fake. Like wtf is this Nolan?

Which one?

I loved how clunky the Bat moved. It made it seem quite realistic.

 

[Arc]

Thank ye sir!



You are not alone:

I think the way you described the analogy works really well. It's almost uncanny how accurate that seems to be.

People get down on Jedi, but everyone seems to universally agree on how great the throne room/ending sequence is. To me that's the strongest correlation to the film.

 

[BertramCooper]

I think it's important to acknowledge the parallels between Bruce's identity crisis growing up in his father's shadow and giving back to fellow orphans through John Blake.

I do get what you're saying though. If they started killing Bane's henchman with rocks it would be even more apt.

I was being sarcastic, but I still don't quite understand the rationale behind devoting such an enormous amount of time setting up JGL's character for a probably-never-going-to-happen sequel.

 

[Speedymanic]

Gat dam Marion Cotillard is so hot.

Thr truth, such a shame we don't see more of her throughout the movie. And I dare I say, her breasts were simply magnificent.

Especially during that scene. You all know the one I'm talking about.

 

[Dragon]

I love how Morgan Freeman plays Morgan Freeman in every movie he's in, and he's just as likeable every time. It's amazing.

Best voice ever? He's replaced James Earl Jones for me. Although I can't get him saying "motherfucker" in Wanted out of my head.

 

[Wilbur]

I love how Morgan Freeman plays Morgan Freeman in every movie he's in, and he's just as likeable every time. It's amazing.

I fucking hate Morgan Freeman

 

[Solo]

LOVED the Rhas cameo. But I REALLY wanted a Thomas Wayne cameo and didn't get it :_(

 

[HiiiLife]

Which one?

It was when Catwoman first got Batmans bike. In that small blue room. I dunno if it was my theatre but that shit kinda looked like a "behind the scenes" scene. Like seriously, the quality looked "different" inside that room compared to Batman standing outside.

 

[neorej]

Gat dam Marion Cotillard is so hot.

after they enter the manor out of the rain.... DAYUM!

 

[Solo]

after they enter the manor out of the rain.... DAYUM!

Her tits were like torpedoes in that scene. I said goddamn.

 

[DMczaf]

LOVED the Rhas cameo. But I REALLY wanted a Thomas Wayne cameo and didn't get it :_(

Bruce....why do we fall...

 

[Dragon]

I was being sarcastic, but I still don't quite understand the rationale behind devoting such an enormous amount of time setting up JGL's character for a probably-never-going-to-happen sequel.

Sorry I missed that .

As far as JGL, I think Batman knowing that he's inspired someone like John Blake's admiration is huge for him. Think of all his failures throughout the movies, Blake helps offset those somewhat.

 

[ampere]

I hate to sound like a dick but people being confused about the ending makes absolutely no fricken sense to me. Here I am thinking Nolan is being heavy handed as he possibly can be without literally coming into camera shot and reading a synopsis of everything you just saw and some people are still like "Uhhh so Bruce Wayne died right? Or not?"



No way. ROJ barely keeps it together in the final acts and DKR absolutely transcends itself at the end.

Meh, Inception has people all overly skeptical, can't blame em. I was even taken aback at first like damn, Batman lived!!

People think: Nolan movie, crazy thing at the end, is it real?!

Saw the midnight release and loved it. I was basically all media blackout on this one, only knew about Bane, didn't even know Catwoman was in it until my buddy mentioned it when we were in line.

Great film and I still can't believe that Robin was in it and in a good way. Also Catwoman was well done, big props to Anne Hathaway for her performance. Joseph Gordon-Levitt has a great performance, no surprises there. I'll be seeing this again soon.

 

[Alligatorjandro]

I got a chuckle out of the alligator joke.

 

[Salvor.Hardin]

It was when Catwoman first got Batmans bike. In that small blue room. I dunno if it was my theatre but that shit kinda looked like a "behind the scenes" scene. Like seriously, the quality looked "different" inside that room compared to Batman standing outside.

Hmm don't really recall noticing anything off in that scene.

The worst looking shot for me was when the Bat passes through the exploded buildings and exits from the right of the screen, right before it heads out to sea. It looked like it was shot on a handheld cam and the cg was kind of jarring.

 

[outunderthestars]

I just want to add that going into this movie without knowing anything about it was awesome. I managed to avoid any information or even seeing a single image from the film.

 

[BeautifulMemory]

I got a chuckle out of the alligator joke.

You people!

 

[MrPink93485]

LOVED the Rhas cameo. But I REALLY wanted a Thomas Wayne cameo and didn't get it :_(

Flashback was good enough for me, I didn't even think we were gonna get that.

 

[JimiNutz]

One thing I missed was how Bane nullified the gas bombs Batman throws at him. You guys catch that?

Im not good at remembering lines word for word, but it was something like

"Parlour tricks and theatrics are highly effective against the uninitiated...but we are initiated, aren't we"

 

[DMczaf]

I got a chuckle out of the alligator joke.

Of course you did.

Of course.

 

[Inferno313]

Dangit guys, now I just need to go see it again just to pay more attention to Cotillard's, erm, assets.

 

[neorej]

Sorry I missed that .

As far as JGL, I think Batman knowing that he's inspired someone like John Blake's admiration is huge for him. Think of all his failures throughout the movies, Blake helps offset those somewhat.

i think blake represents Wayne's sucess to what he originally set out to do; inspire ppeople.

 

[The Technomancer]

Hmm don't really recall noticing anything off in that scene.

The worst looking shot for me was when the Bat passes through the exploded buildings and exits from the right of the screen, right before it heads out to sea. It looked like it was shot on a handheld cam and the cg was kind of jarring.

The worst shot that sticks out in my mind is when he meets Selina in the subway or whatever. He steps out of the shadows and his costume looks absolutly terrible. Like a big action-figure.

 

[DMczaf]

Dangit guys, now I just need to go see it again just to pay more attention to Cotillard's, erm, assets.

Also check out the way Catwoman gets off the Batpod after blowing up Bane.


She's flexable.

 

[Artanisix]

Gat dam Marion Cotillard is so hot.

Ain't it the truth.



Question for you guys because I can't really remember -- What was the point of making Bruce Wayne go bankrupt? Like what was Bane and co. trying to accomplish with that?

 

[jonezer4]

i thought the Begins-scene, where gordon puts a coat on young bruce, was totally unneeded.

It was for anyone that knew the trilogy well, but for any newcomer that hadn't seen BB, it had to be included for them to understand it.

Same can be said for the "Why do we fall" flashback, although I think it was less necessary as not having this pointed out to you wouldn't sacrifice anything as far as the story goes. It was important everyone watching the film on its own understood that Wayne was telling Gordon exactly who he was. It wasn't as important to know that his father instilled that sense of hope in him. Anyone that knew Batman Begins instantly understood the parallels to that opening scene of the trilogy (which I think was a brilliant allusion), and didn't need it.

 

[BertramCooper]

Sorry I missed that .

As far as JGL, I think Batman knowing that he's inspired someone like John Blake's admiration is huge for him. Think of all his failures throughout the movies, Blake helps offset those somewhat.

That's true, but this was a case of Nolan thinking he's a lot cleverer than he actually is. It was obvious from the first time JGL's character spoke to Bruce what Nolan had in mind, and he continued to beat us over the head with it throughout the entire film. And then he topped it off with that cutesy Robin "surprise" at the end. Blech.

 

[BeautifulMemory]

Also check out the way Catwoman gets off the Batpod after blowing up Bane.


She's flexable.

I noticed that too. She lifted her leg upwards to get off the bike

 

[KevinCow]

I was being sarcastic, but I still don't quite understand the rationale behind devoting such an enormous amount of time setting up JGL's character for a probably-never-going-to-happen sequel.

I don't think that was the point of that scene at all. Bruce just needed to pass on the mantle to someone because he knew Gotham would always need a protector.

 

[Solo]

Question for you guys because I can't really remember -- What was the point of making Bruce Wayne go bankrupt? Like what was Bane and co. trying to accomplish with that?

Gain control of Wayne Enterprises and the fission reaction.

 

[neorej]

It was for anyone that new the trilogy well, but for any newcomer that hadn't seen BB, it had to be included for them to understand it.

if you haven't seen begins, you don't understand 90% of this movie.

 

[EatChildren]

There were audience giggles during 'that scene'. And audience boners. I know, I counted.

As far as JGL, I think Batman knowing that he's inspired someone like John Blake's admiration is huge for him. Think of all his failures throughout the movies, Blake helps offset those somewhat.

I took the ending as basically this. Rather than literally saying THIS IS THE NEW BATMAN HE WILL BE IN THE NEXT FILM, it was moreso Wane leaving behind a hope for Gotham should they ever need it. And by showing JGL in the Batcave, faith in that there will always be someone to put themselves on the line for all others.

 

[Speedymanic]

Ain't it the truth.



Question for you guys because I can't really remember -- What was the point of making Bruce Wayne go bankrupt? Like what was Bane and co. trying to accomplish with that?

Take over Wayne enterprises and access the reactor, which they knew had been built but didn't know where it was.

By bankrupting Wayne, they hoped (or knew) that he'd turn to Talia and show her the reactor to keep the company from falling into Daggert's hands.

 

[Solo]

The ending isn't setup for a sequel that won't happen. The ending is the end point of the throughline of the entire idea of Batman. He is a symbol. Incorruptible. Eternal. The Batman is bigger than, and will outlive, Bruce Wayne.

 

[BruceLeeRoy]

I thought he was simply unfazed by the theatrics

It seemed like they didn't work though didn't it?

Im not good at remembering lines word for word, but it was something like

"Parlour tricks and theatrics are highly effective against the uninitiated...but we are initiated, aren't we"

Dang nice memory man.

 

[Jimothy]

I got a chuckle out of the alligator joke.

Killer Croc foreshadowing?

 

[The Technomancer]

Take over Wayne enterprises and access the reactor, which they knew had been built but didn't know where it was.

By bankrupting Wayne, they hoped (or knew) that he'd turn to Talia and show her the reactor to keep the company from falling into Daggert's hands.

I haven't complained about this yet because I know other movies get away with it all the time (most prominently Spider-Man 2 probably) but man, I'm pretty sure keeping an un-licensed experimental nuclear reactor in a basement in one of the largest cites on earth is illegal and just generally incredibly dangerous.

 

[BertramCooper]

To be clear, my main gripe is the amount of time they devoted to JGL's subplot, and the obviousness of it all. I get what Nolan was trying to do, and I don't inherently have a problem with it. But spending all of that time in the middle of the climax with that school bus on the bridge bullshit? GTFO, man.

 

[outunderthestars]

To be clear, my main gripe is the amount of time they devoted to JGL's subplot, and the obviousness of it all. I get what Nolan was trying to do, and I don't inherently have a problem with it. But spending all of that time in the middle of the climax with that school bus on the bridge bullshit? GTFO, man.

They needed to give his character a breaking point.

 

[BertramCooper]

The ending isn't setup for a sequel that won't happen. The ending is the end point of the throughline of the entire idea of Batman. He is a symbol. Incorruptible. Eternal. The Batman is bigger than, and will outlive, Bruce Wayne.

At the same time, it kind of sidesteps some of the interesting concepts introduced in TDK, most notably the idea that the presence of Batman actually inspires crime instead of deterring it.

They needed to give his character a breaking point.

But kids-on-a-bus-on-a-bridge-with-a-bomb? Surely there's a better way to do it than that.

 

[jonezer4]

if you haven't seen begins, you don't understand 90% of this movie.

That's absolutely incorrect. Pretty much everything that was needed to understand the movie from the prior films was fed to the audience through exposition (the well when he was a child, Rhas, Gordon comforting him, every single thing with Harvey Dent).

Unfortunately, that exposition was unnecessary filler to people that knew the other films, but Nolan obviously went out of his way to ensure this film stood on its own to anyone that hadn't seen the films prior.

I think you can appreciate the movie better having seen his full arc, but it's by no means necessary to "understand" anything, especially not 90% of the movie.

 

[Hero]

heh.



This is where some cracks appear, but I think that was put in as a fake out for the audience. You can't kill Batman, so they suggest it's possible that he survived but there are enough signs in there that point to him dying.

Also, how on earth did the electronic survive a close range nuke blast? That scene altogether made no sense, the bat should have been vaporized.



I think he did. Remember, he said to Bruce that he imagined seeing him with a wife and possibly some kids. So it makes sense that he'd imagine him with a beautiful woman like Selina.



I won't deny it's far fetched, but I choose to believe that he's dead. His journey couldn't just end with hm sipping tea with Selina. The entire journey was building towards the ultimate sacrifice, him giving his life to save Gotham.

You can choose to believe what you want but it's extremely apparent that Bruce is alive and well. The movie literally hits you over the head with how every other character realizes Bruce is still alive. I feel like this is the Indoctrination Theory all over again from ME3.

They could have shown an elaborately detailed scene involving Bruce getting back into Gotham, but I'm sure they felt it would have been needless and tacked-on. Let's just say Batman has a way of getting past sensors undetected down to an artform and go with that.

It's unbelievable that a broke Bruce Wayne would be able to go from whatever bumble-fuck village he went to, made it to an international airport, flew back to the US and somehow infiltrated a completely locked down Gotham without any of his gadgets. Not to mention that his FIRST thing he does when he gets back is wait for Selina to display her good side by saving a little kid from being beaten up.

I don't see how Bruce getting back into Gotham is bothering people. The guy is after all trained by the league of shadows and not to mention he is the goddamn Batman which he uses darkness and stealth to his advantage. Getting into Gotham should be no problem for Bruce, doesn't really need a additional scene for it.

See the above.

Anything they would have done to acknowledge Joker would have been cheesy and lame. See the examples that are already being given...

As opposed to the other cheesy fanservice bits to literally every other single Batman character?

The stupid BATMAN FLIES A BOMB OUT TO SEA climax is about on par with The Dark Knight's HULKING MONSTER CRIMINAL TEACHES US TO BELIEVE. Comparatively, the TDK's climax is in no way less silly and cheesy as this.

TDKR's climax has been done to the point of being a trope. It's not new, it's not exciting.

I hate to sound like a dick but people being confused about the ending makes absolutely no fricken sense to me. Here I am thinking Nolan is being heavy handed as he possibly can be without literally coming into camera shot and reading a synopsis of everything you just saw and some people are still like "Uhhh so Bruce Wayne died right? Or not?"



No way. ROJ barely keeps it together in the final acts and DKR absolutely transcends itself at the end.

Haha what? What the hell does it transcending itself even mean?