ThatCrazyGuy
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To that picture of the not hot Rachel every night I bet.
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To that picture of the not hot Rachel every night I bet.
Hero_of_the_Day
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He's also shown that he doesn't like others dressing up like Batman.
Apparently Nolan and the origional Batman don't agree.
Summary Man
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It's because Nolan pretty much tricked everyone with the Robin reveal. You didn't have time to think "aww man, they're introducing Robin in these films?" By the time the film ends, you're probably thinking, "this character is pretty cool. I like him." That's when Nolan emerges from the shadows and informs you how you've been tricked into admitting you like Robin.
Ninja Scooter
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How funny would it be if in place of the Batsuit he leaves Blake some hockey pads with a note that says "There's only one, bitch!"
Yeah but that's because they were wearing hockey pads.
Because they don't know the risks and aren't anywhere near trained. Blake proved himself to Bruce.
Gotham has toned down very significantly since Bruce first became Batman. How else would Batman managed to self exile himself for 8 years?
Robin's reveal was definitely stupid. Really the only part that had me rolling my eyes.
A part that really stuck out from the tone of the film was when Bruce Wayne gets his leg implant straps and smashes a brick wall wearing sneakers. That was also stupid.
Also can somebody explain why Bane needed a mask? He was fucked up in the prison and had to undergo impromptu surgery, but I didn't really get the reason for the small pipes going into his mouth (and seemingly not connecting to anything?) He started having trouble breathing when Batman repeatedly punched him in the face and one of the tubes got dislodged.
Either it's something from the comics that I'm not getting or it's just a stupid visual design thing that they did so they could cover half his face and didn't have much thought put into.
A part that really stuck out from the tone of the film was when Bruce Wayne gets his leg implant straps and smashes a brick wall wearing sneakers. That was also stupid.
Also can somebody explain why Bane needed a mask? He was fucked up in the prison and had to undergo impromptu surgery, but I didn't really get the reason for the small pipes going into his mouth (and seemingly not connecting to anything?) He started having trouble breathing when Batman repeatedly punched him in the face and one of the tubes got dislodged.
Either it's something from the comics that I'm not getting or it's just a stupid visual design thing that they did so they could cover half his face and didn't have much thought put into.
From the way how they handled jim gordon when he got caught in the sewer it seems bane's army is more like a mix of LOS members + random thugs + grown up orhpans.
Dude: "We caught him in the sewer."
Bane: "Why did you bring him here?"
Dude: "We don't know what to do!"
*gordon jumps in the water"
Dude: "I think he's dead."
Bane: "Follow him!"
Dude: "The torrent is too fast!"
Looks pretty ameture to me.
Nolan could have made the core to explode at 11pm. No idea why they had to make the war happen at daytime.
This part doesn't make sense on all levels:
1. This version of Talia loves bane and bane loves Talia. No reason for her to sleep with bruce wayne / batman out of emotion reasons.
2. When they were onto each other, Miranda had already got the core and Wayne was kicked out of the board. What did she seduce him for?
3. She's part of the LOS and she knows Bruce wayne is batman. Even less reason for her to seduce him.
Hero_of_the_Day
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I liked it (outside of his name...) but, I think they needed to sell it more. That's a pretty huge decision for Bruce to make and he only has a couple conversations with the guy who is going to take his place. They don't really get to know each other, but Bruce decides he could replace him.
ryutaro's mama
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No dude, Bruce wants authentic Batmans representing him.
That's why Guy In Hockey Pads #1 (with the shotty) didn't get left the BatCave in the will.
But he believes in what Batman stood for, and has the "will to act".
He's still young, and can still gain experience.
The tubes presumably supply him painkillers.
It's because Nolan pretty much tricked everyone with the Robin reveal. You didn't have time to think "aww man, they're introducing Robin in these films?" By the time the film ends, you're probably thinking, "this character is pretty cool. I like him." That's when Nolan emerges from the shadows and informs you how you've been tricked into admitting you like Robin.
I feel dirty.
FlashbladeGAF
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Ok
you got me
spit out my drink
Just watched BB for old time sake and Tom Cruise really screwed us out of an epic killing off of Rachel in the TDK.
Definitely would have more impact if the person that WAS Rachel died instead of the cheap substitute.
I see. That'd make some sense.
Discotheque
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Also how sloppy was it when Batman just drops the line "hey Blake, wear a mask"?
The most obvious foreshadowing of all time. It totally felt out of place in the scene and just made Batman sound like a moron. Why is he telling this noob cop to wear a mask? Does he really want him to be the next Batman already?
/nitpicking.
God damn. I enjoyed this film and it's certainly no Spiderman 3. But it truly is messy at times.
The most obvious foreshadowing of all time. It totally felt out of place in the scene and just made Batman sound like a moron. Why is he telling this noob cop to wear a mask? Does he really want him to be the next Batman already?
/nitpicking.
God damn. I enjoyed this film and it's certainly no Spiderman 3. But it truly is messy at times.
Hero_of_the_Day
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I always thought the guy who gets strung up by Joker is the same guy who Batman told to stop. Maybe I made that shit up, but I'm going to stick with it.
EDIT: Guess I'm not alone. Good.
Summary Man
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That guy was probably Bruce's first choice as a Batman replacement, but if you remember Joker killed him in The Dark Knight.
SCULLIBUNDO
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So did the hockey pants guys with shotguns.
To me it just cheapens everything Bruce went through to become the only one in Gotham to be able to do that.
It's like Jimmy Olsen walking into the Fortress of Solitude and finding the Rocketeer's gear and swearing himself to inspiring humanity to do good. It's a nice idea, but the execution is insulting to the character of Superman and everything the audience has seen before.
JGL is Jimmy Olsen in The Rocketeer Returns.
FlashbladeGAF
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plus they had guns and they were killing people
..oh wai... well I guess it was self defense. They were Ninja trained construction workers
Batman interacts with JGL a total of like, three times, for a total of maybe 15 minutes, and decides to make him the next Batman. Makes sense.
Ok I take that back...he was able to figure out who Batman was from smile analyzation when he was 8 so he must be worthy
I think it was the same guy.
And I always just figured Batman didn't like the copycats because:
A) He wasn't necessarily trying to inspire people to flat out copy him, putting themselves in dangerous situations that they weren't prepared for.
B) They were using guns and that's against his code, man.
He wanted to inspire people to do good, not get themselves killed by the mob in HOCKEY PAAADDSSSHSHHH,
I don't remember the exact line but that scene didn't really play out like that. He was referring to how you can't go around playing hero without a mask because you endanger you loved ones and that's what differentiated him from Blake.
It's really late here and I am probably remembering this wrong (possibly confusing it with another movie too) but that's how I interpreted it in the movie. That is however one of the foreshadowing in the movie where Bruce wants someone to take over the mantle and he is considering Blake for it.
ryutaro's mama
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I could be wrong but that might have been Guy In Hockey Pads #2.
SCULLIBUNDO
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'Faaaaark you're an orphan? That's PERFECT! I was always worried about running into the parents of the chump I got to kill himself. But you'll make a good body double so that nobody looks for me when you die a few days from now.'
FlashbladeGAF
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thats how I remembered it.
NullPointer
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Wow. That was... surprisingly bad.
I was with it in the beginning. Ok, slow build, lay the foundations, great, great. But for what?
I liked Catwoman's early scenes but she had very little relation to the plot, and about halfway through I completely lost any sense of immersion or care. For such a long movie the character scenes felt rushed, motivations felt forced, major feel-good moments were telegraphed way too early and way too obviously, and the whole thing just fell to pieces amidst a jumble of spectacle until the end.
Pro tip: If the Police's idea of war against a defended position covered by automatic weapons is to line up and rush with batons and pistols, well yeah, they deserve to die. That's just one moment out of a dozen that might have sounded good on paper or being pitched to some Hollywood exec, but it just comes across as overly dramatized cheeze.
Easily the worst of the trilogy and I'm pretty flabbergasted at the high reviews. And I'm not sure whether I would've cut an hour or two out of the movie and cut characters and flashbacks, or just tried to make this as two movies. In its present form though, it just doesn't work.
I dug Bain though, for what its worth.
I was with it in the beginning. Ok, slow build, lay the foundations, great, great. But for what?
I liked Catwoman's early scenes but she had very little relation to the plot, and about halfway through I completely lost any sense of immersion or care. For such a long movie the character scenes felt rushed, motivations felt forced, major feel-good moments were telegraphed way too early and way too obviously, and the whole thing just fell to pieces amidst a jumble of spectacle until the end.
Pro tip: If the Police's idea of war against a defended position covered by automatic weapons is to line up and rush with batons and pistols, well yeah, they deserve to die. That's just one moment out of a dozen that might have sounded good on paper or being pitched to some Hollywood exec, but it just comes across as overly dramatized cheeze.
Easily the worst of the trilogy and I'm pretty flabbergasted at the high reviews. And I'm not sure whether I would've cut an hour or two out of the movie and cut characters and flashbacks, or just tried to make this as two movies. In its present form though, it just doesn't work.
I dug Bain though, for what its worth.
But the hockey pants guy was clearly less capable than JGL, who had proven himself throughout the whole movie to both be an adept thinker/detective, and a good fighter. He still needs to learn, and still needs to gain experience, but he has time for that.
I mean I can completely see where you're coming from, again I have an attachment to this trilogy's Bruce as well, but I'm not against the idea that someone else (who is proven capable, though obviously not yet to the same degree as Bruce) could take up the mantle of Gotham's dark protector. Blake will find his own way to be there for the city. Not as Batman, but as his own symbol.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Real talk hour:
Who is dumber?
Prometheus crew or Gotham cops?
Who is dumber?
Prometheus crew or Gotham cops?
Prometheus crew are supposed to be the smartest of the smart in their fields.
Gotham cops are cops.
I still say Prometheus crew.
Discotheque
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haha.
Gotham cops would debate over radios at what they're seeing in front of them. The prometheus crew would just go poke them.
The Storyteller
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Gotham cops because there is 3 fucking thousand of them.
Prometheus crew because Gotham cops include Blake, veteran "you are in for a show tonight" cop and Jim Gordon.
Oh god, Prometheus crew.
I enjoyed the movie, but the recklessness displayed by that crew in nearly every situation presented to them...smh.
SCULLIBUNDO
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I guess. But something has to be said for the fact that any cop suggesting the only smart/logical/honourable idea is called a hot head over and over.
Hey guys! That woman is being robbed! Let's help!
WELL IF IT ISN'T OL' HOT HEAD JUMPING THE GUN AGAIN!
Hero_of_the_Day
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Taking your helmet off on an unexplored/studied alien planet the first time you visit it pretty well tops anything ever.
Discotheque
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I dare somebody to name a worse character in the trilogy. That guy is officially the worst. He called the rational Blake a "hothead' like 10 times.
ryutaro's mama
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HANDS UP!!! >>> getting trapped underground for months
PhoncipleBone
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While I agree with this post and feel how they shoehorned Blake into the universe, I will disagree with you from previous posts about Bruce being the only one that can be Batman.
If they showed Blake actually training for it, or actually solving the mystery of Batman's identity other than hunches and being an orphan, then I would love the idea of him taking it. I think you agree with that, right?
But right now Blake just felt tossed in there for wankery and pandering to the audience. I like JGL in it a lot, but not how the character was forced in there.
That guy was just an idiot. If anything, he was the hot head. "Holy shit guys, batman is back! Imma gonna get him!" You could see Blake just stewing at the guy's incompetence.
Glad Gordon snatched him up early in the film.
FlashbladeGAF
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Dude, there were people taking off their helmets on a fucking planet millions of miles away. THESE PEOPLE HAVE COLLEGE DEGREES.
NullPointer
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He had not a single good scene. Even his "redemption" was just... ugg. Guess they had to give a face to the idea of hunting Batman down, but did they have to make him such a one trick pony?
Whoops. Never read the Batman comics outside of the Dark Knight and Year One stuff so his character was new to me.
Should've been used when he was actually doing the climbing/falling not when he was sleeping.
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