The Dark Knight Rises |OT| The Legend Ends (Warning: Unmarked Spoilers Within)

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Inferno313 said:
This is what overhyping does. Even TDK had those "dumb silly things" that people laughed at, in fact it had a lot more than this one.

Sounds like you just created an idea of what the film would be in your mind and it wasn't what you wanted or expected.
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Batman Begins and The Dark Knight both felt like they took their time with their themes. Rises didn't offer anything compelling at all.
 
Yeah my screening had people completely focused on the movie. The sewer fight put everyone on notice and people were hush all the way until the ending. Very similar to the crowd at tdk showing for the majority of the movie.

Also I think tdkr did a great job in showing off the theme of hope and faith in the movie. Both in its breakdown and its rise. In fact I would say we were beaten over the head with it.
 
A little off subject, but I saw it tonight AGAIN (still loved it) and I'm a little surprised about people saying some theaters aren't packed. The one I was in was slammed. I made some small talk with one of the people at the ticket window while she was waiting for my card to process and said "Was it pretty empty yesterday because of the trouble in Colorado?". She said that more people went to the early shows and it was like the early showings had numbers that looked like they should be evening showings and vice-versa.

I totally suggest going to this movie with a big audience though. Especially for the reactions!
 
bangladesh said:
Batman Begins and The Dark Knight both felt like they took their time with their themes. Rises didn't offer anything compelling at all.
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I think that while Begins and TDK were philosophical, Rises is more personal, almost a character study. It's about Bruce Wayne the man and what the years have done to him and how he chooses to spend the rest of his life. I suppose the problem is that the poignancy here is detached almost entirely from the villain and the spectacle. It definitely has its problems but on the whole I felt it really succeeded with what it set out to do, which was to provide closure to a complete saga. I thought it was a beautiful ending to the trilogy.
 
FrenchMovieTheme said:
i liked thor a lot. MUCH better than captain america. i actually liked nortons hulk but i just seem to be in the minority in that regard. i dont get why people hate it so much. they captured hulks raw power very well and the last fight was awesome
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I don't hate The Incredible Hulk; I just found it very underwhelming. There are a couple of neat scenes, and I love Edward Norton as an actor, but it really just didn't do anything for me. Wasn't impressed by Tim Roth or his role either.

Lee's Hulk had its problems and gets it share of ridicule, but I thought that was a ballsier attempt at doing something interesting with the Hulk. It'll be intriguing to see how a standalone Ruffalo Hulk film ends up. Don't think it's an easy character to do right in his own movie.

The_Technomancer said:
Thor isn't awful, its just...incredibly low key. Of all the recent Marvel movies Thor is the one that feels smallest in scale. Its just about Thor learning humility in some small town in Arizona. Which is weird because he's the most larger-than-life of the Avengers.
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I think it was purposefully entry-level since they were likely just setting the stage for the sequels to venture deeper into the cosmic stuff, and I imagine Thor 2 will feature a lot more Asgard. Just a shame Branagh isn't coming back.
 
The_Technomancer said:
I don't think the films biggest problem was that it was filled with throwbacks to the first movie, I think it had much bigger problems :P
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I don't think it was the biggest problem either, I just made fun of it a bit. I thought the editing felt like it was rushing shots of information in a consistently uncomfortable pace. It felt awkward. This guy was trying to fit too much into the time given. There was little room to breath. And waaaaaaaay too little tension for such an imposing villain.

Forever said:
I think that while Begins and TDK were philosophical, Rises is more personal, almost a character study. It's about Bruce Wayne the man and what the years have done to him and how he chooses to spend the rest of his life. I suppose the problem is that the poignancy here is detached almost entirely from the villain and the spectacle. It definitely has its problems but on the whole I felt it really succeeded with what it set out to do, which was to provide closure to a complete saga. I thought it was a beautiful ending to the trilogy.
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It didn't even feel like a conclusion to me, honestly. I felt there was plenty room for a new chapter at the end. I think the climax was pretty standard.
 
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bangladesh said:
I just got back from watching it.

I left the theater confused. I could not believe that it was Christopher Nolan who directed this film. It was not good. And I can't believe I'd end up typing this, but it's the truth. I love Batman Begins and I love The Dark Knight. But this felt like a cash in from everyone except for Michael Caine.

This movie was like a Nolan fan boy taking a shot at film making. This film was fucking boring. It was extremely tedious when there wasn't a spectacle. Bane was awesome with the little time he was given but apart from that this movie sucked balls. I expected the film to take it's final and most important idea/statement and explore upon it and leave us with something profound to think about. It wasn't. I wanted 3 hours of FEARING the monster that is Bane. I wanted the theater to be tense. But instead there was laughter in response to dumb silly things happening in the movie. Oh my fucking god. This film wasn't really about anything besides ''OH LOOK ITS BEEN 8 YEARS GOTHAMS IN TROUBLE AGAIN LETS JUST FULL CIRCLE WITH REFERENCES FROM THE FIRST OKCOOL'' I am still in disbelief. Biggest disappointment of 2012 for me.
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This is Nolan's worst movie and the weakest Batman film. It's stupid as hell, where the other ones were smarter and more taut. It also has the most missed potential.

My opinions almost completely mirrored your's after I went to the midnight showing.

... That said, I think a second viewing improved this film tremendously in my eyes. It's still hugely flawed, but I at least enjoyed it and think it's a good movie, warts and all.
 
I watched an afternoon showing of TDKR today and holy fuck, it was an awesome movie.
I think TDK barely edges it because Heath's Joker was fucking legendary, but this was a pretty badass movie all around. Can't wait to buy this bluray.
 
bangladesh said:
I just got back from watching it.

I left the theater confused. I could not believe that it was Christopher Nolan who directed this film. It was not good. And I can't believe I'd end up typing this, but it's the truth. I love Batman Begins and I love The Dark Knight. But this felt like a cash in from everyone except for Michael Caine.

This movie was like a Nolan fan boy taking a shot at film making. This film was fucking boring. It was extremely tedious when there wasn't a spectacle. Bane was awesome with the little time he was given but apart from that this movie sucked balls. I expected the film to take it's final and most important idea/statement and explore upon it and leave us with something profound to think about. It wasn't. I wanted 3 hours of FEARING the monster that is Bane. I wanted the theater to be tense. But instead there was laughter in response to dumb silly things happening in the movie. Oh my fucking god. This film wasn't really about anything besides ''OH LOOK ITS BEEN 8 YEARS GOTHAMS IN TROUBLE AGAIN LETS JUST FULL CIRCLE WITH REFERENCES FROM THE FIRST OKCOOL'' I am still in disbelief. Biggest disappointment of 2012 for me.
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That's how I felt about the first hour of Batman Begins. Then it picks up, and becomes awesome.

In contrast, I was totally into the "slower" parts of TDKR throughout the entire film. Those 2 hours and 45 minutes went by like nothing. The characters were great and the dialogue was interesting all the way through.
 
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Going to see it in D-Box again tomorrow, but I was slightly disappointed compared with my expectations of the previous two films. The advertising never really got me excited so I guess I wasn't that hyped. I think it was entertaining enough, but at times it felt too convenient. And the script seemed like it went from scene to scene, character to character with no cohesive reason. In retrospect it made sense, but for 2 hours I was shifting in my seat a little too much. The action wasn't particularly great, but the only good action in the series was in The Dark Knight. It's probably good enough though. There were a couple emotional scenes that really got me though.

Alfred and Bruce moments made the movie though.

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Anth0ny said:
That's how I felt about the first hour of Batman Begins. Then it picks up, and becomes awesome.

In contrast, I was totally into the "slower" parts of TDKR throughout the entire film. Those 2 hours and 45 minutes went by like nothing. The characters were great and the dialogue was interesting all the way through.
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WHAT. The first half is the best bit of Batman on film you'll ever see. Character development, anth0ny. Motivations, anth0ny. Immersion. Evolution. Heart. Progression. Structure.
 
Still haven't watched the movie yet (I'll be going only when I have the time for cheap matinee prices).
Reading some of the spoilers on the net has made me laugh. Apparently there are some mega colossal bad lulz in this movie.

That pretty much reinforces that it was a good idea not to go at the premiere.
 
See You Next Wednesday said:
Still haven't watched the movie yet (I'll be going only when I have the time for cheap matinee prices).
Reading some of the spoilers on the net has made me laugh. Apparently there are some mega colossal bad lulz in this movie.

That pretty much reinforces that it was a good idea not to go at the premiere.
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Seriously this is the most flawed of the Batman trilogy. It is fun, but at times it feels like a retarded internet fanboy directed this instead of Nolan.

The sloppy flashbacks.
the lame references to previous films
etc.

It's not even a cohesive film until about the last hour. There's a good film in here. But it needs major editing. Somebody in another thread (or possibly this one) said this is a first draft film. It certainly feels like it.

I loved the ending of this movie but honestly TDK is the ending of the series for me like "you bow to noone" is the ending of ROTK for me.

edit: nitpicking etc. etc. yeah yeah. There are problems with this film, and it certainly doesn't hold up to the first two
 
Discotheque said:
Seriously this is the most flawed of the Batman trilogy. It is fun, but at times it feels like a retarded internet fanboy directed this instead of Nolan.

The sloppy flashbacks.
the lame references to previous films
etc.

It's not even a cohesive film until about the last hour. There's a good film in here. But it needs major editing. Somebody in another thread (or possibly this one) said this is a first draft film. It certainly feels like it.

I loved the ending of this movie but honestly TDK is the ending of the series for me like "you bow to noone" is the ending of ROTK for me.
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Can we hug? Give me a hug.
 
See You Next Wednesday said:
Still haven't watched the movie yet (I'll be going only when I have the time for cheap matinee prices).
Reading some of the spoilers on the net has made me laugh. Apparently there are some mega colossal bad lulz in this movie.

That pretty much reinforces that it was a good idea not to go at the premiere.
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Why are you reading spoilers before seeing this? Who does that? What's the point of seeing Sixth Sense if you know the twist? Pointless...

bangladesh said:
Not even Christopher Nolan can escape the 3rd Movie Curse.
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Movie was great.
 
Discotheque said:
Seriously this is the most flawed of the Batman trilogy. It is fun, but at times it feels like a retarded internet fanboy directed this instead of Nolan.

The sloppy flashbacks.
the lame references to previous films
etc.

It's not even a cohesive film until about the last hour. There's a good film in here. But it needs major editing. Somebody in another thread (or possibly this one) said this is a first draft film. It certainly feels like it.

I loved the ending of this movie but honestly TDK is the ending of the series for me like "you bow to noone" is the ending of ROTK for me.

edit: nitpicking etc. etc. yeah yeah. There are problems with this film, and it certainly doesn't hold up to the first two
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That was me. I had a feeling we would end up on the same page. I still enjoyed TDKR quite a bit, but it is definitely disappointing given what the movie could have been with more polish to the story and less fan service.
 
Superman: The Movie is in a league of its own. Nothing will ever top that movie. BB and DKR have come the closest, but they're still not quite there.
 
I will say this, this is a great end to the trilogy as a whole. It really does a great job of incorporating a lot of stuff from prior movies and elevates both the prior films. Unlike say Indiana Jones, this feels like a trilogy and all the movies are better for it.
 
Jarmel said:
I will say this, this is a great end to the trilogy as a whole. It really does a great job of incorporating a lot of stuff from prior movies and elevates both the prior films. Unlike say Indiana Jones, this feels like a trilogy and all the movies are better for it.
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Last Crusade > TDKR
 
Finally going to see this today after work. I loved both of the previous films equally for the different feels each had so I think I will love this one the same.
 
http://www.deadline.com/2012/07/305012/

At least one observer told me reaction to the film itself was “fantastic with much applause at the end”. Although it is far from the studio’s or anybody’s mind this weekend – and should be –  Warner Bros is known to have high Oscar hopes for the film. The Academy’s switch from five to ten Best Picture nominees in 2009 is widely thought to have been instigated  by the omission of a Best Picture nod for 2008′s The Dark Knight which was nominated overall for 8 mostly below-the-line Oscars and won for Sound Editing and most notably a posthumous Best Supporting Actor statuette for Heath Ledger who played the Joker.
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bangladesh said:
I just got back from watching it.

I left the theater confused. I could not believe that it was Christopher Nolan who directed this film. It was not good. And I can't believe I'd end up typing this, but it's the truth. I love Batman Begins and I love The Dark Knight. But this felt like a cash in from everyone except for Michael Caine.
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These type of responses are so baseless. How do you see "cash in" from everyone's performances, minus Caine? JGL was cashing in? Anne Hathaway cashed in? Bale was as good as he in the entire series. Hardy cashed in? I can accept if you said the Nolan brothers. Solo said it though, the fanboy moments that are usually bad worked great for me here.
Scarecrow's cameo trumped TDK's one. Rhas was a really cool moment, only wish the fade out wasn't so obviously an illusion. Stuff like the coat on Bruce's shoulders and "Why do we fall?" made the film feel cohesive with Begins, not piggybacking off its success.
Although Zimmer definitely dropped the ball on adding to the series, and piggybacked off his previous successes.

The performances were the most natural of the series though, didn't see anyone cashing in. Also really enjoyed the ending in this. I never loved TDK's ending as much as everyone else. If the speech followed a truly great scene, it would have been something, but the coin flipping russian roulette was such BS. Once the Joker is caught, TDK may as well be fast forwarded to Batman running away. Two Face's turn is probably the least earned character change in the series. This film never pandered to the exposition of Begins ending either "This thing is gonna blow!".

I'm surprised at the polarizing opinions on this movie. Everyone said TDK after its opening, through Hong Kong was boring (I partially agree). New Rachel scenes, Scarecrow's cameo, etc. Now it's just forgotten, when lamenting the same weakness in TDKR. Yet some people love TDKR's first hour, hate the spectacle that follows. Really weird. I like the slower pace of TDKR's first hour here though. Catwoman's scenes were cool, Bane was imposing, JGL and Gordon get into pretty serious shit, and what are thought to be minor events turn into very important ones in a surprising, interesting way.
 
J2 Cool said:
These type of responses are so baseless. How do you see "cash in" from everyone's performances, minus Caine? JGL was cashing in? Anne Hathaway cashed in? Bale was as good as he in the entire series. Hardy cashed in? I can accept if you said the Nolan brothers. Solo said it though, the fanboy moments that are usually bad worked great for me here.
Scarecrow's cameo trumped TDK's one. Rhas was a really cool moment, only wish the fade out wasn't so obviously an illusion. Stuff like the coat on Bruce's shoulders and "Why do we fall?" made the film feel cohesive with Begins, not piggybacking off its success.
Although Zimmer definitely dropped the ball on adding to the series, and piggybacked off his previous successes.

I'm surprised at the polarizing opinions on this movie. Everyone said TDK after its opening, through Hong Kong was boring (I partially agree). New Rachel scenes, Scarecrow's cameo, etc. Now it's just forgotten, when lamenting the same weakness in TDKR. Yet some people love TDKR's first hour, hate the spectacle that follows. Really weird. I like the slower pace of TDKR's first hour here though. Catwoman's scenes were cool, Bane was imposing, JGL and Gordon get into pretty serious shit, and what are thought to be minor events turn into very important ones in a surprising, interesting way.
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I think in a couple of years TDKR is going to be looked back on as the best in the trilogy or at least equal to TDK.

I disagree with you about Bale's performance being as good as in the other films. It was most definitely better.
I'm not sure what would be considered spoilers, but Bale playing the more physically and mentally broken Bruce Wayne felt like a role that came naturally to him, moreso than Batman's beginnings or questioning of morals in BB and TDK
 
So I'm finally gonaa see this tonight. Can anyone answer this for me please?

1) Is it right, that this movie has less 'evening' or 'night' scenes than the Dark Knight? The trailers looks way lighter in that area. If you know what I mean...

2) Also, in one of the trailers I saw Bane standing above Bruce. Is the way he finds out his identity satisfying or not? Or is there not much time spent on this?
 
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