TheKaeptain
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soul creator
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I thought the way they handled it was great, though. It was executed well, with each character getting their own personal "don't worry about me, I'm fine" reassurances. It wrapped up the trilogy with closure, and Bruce can now finally (after enduring an entire life of hardships) rest and be happy.
Solideliquid
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Alfred imagined him there. As he had been doing every year for years.
Edit: although, how did Fox get the BAT back to examine the computer patched?
Yeah, I'm getting the feeling that this will feel rather slickly executed upon a second viewing. Initially, it does feel rather out of left field. But now that you guys have provided ample evidence, I will definitely be going into a second viewing with a particular focus on Miranda/Talia.
ShinoguTakeruKoeru
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Almost every exchange she had with Bruce before they slept together had a line from her about restoring balance or something like that as well. I was almost expecting her to come back at Batman after the reveal with a line either about having courage to do what is necessary, or walking up behind someone standing in the way of true justice and stabbing them in the heart.
Autopilot, ejected out at a certain point.
Liked it but I didn't feel that special back-tingling moment at the end of TDK, but more of a "Awww... that's sweet. They lived happily ever after." Different. But good.
Only thing I have to criticize is the pacing/editing in the middle. Too many story beats for such time lapses. We already started with a 8 year flashforward, it settles for a good while, and then we get a 2 months+ time lapse again that takes on a practically new setting and themes with "New" Gotham and Bruce in prison. So much happened in these parts that I'm surprised a character didn't just outright vomit a new story arc. Then we settle into the last act and live happily ever after.
Best parts for me were definitely Catwoman and John Blake. Selina was so fun to watch that I was sad when she and Bruce left the whole movie there for awhile in the middle. I also liked the fakeouts they did with Robin John Blake and Batman not dying. It played with a lot of people's expectations and though I always assumed Blake would take the mantle after Bruce had died, I didn't think he would ever be associated with Robin after Nolan's "No Robin stance."
Hard to be surprised by Miranda/Talia though since Marion Cotillard and Liam Neeson share the same "What kind of accent is that?" accent. Totally thought Alfred died off-screen though since he's gone for what seems like a whole hour+.
Also, was Marion Cotillard pregnant during filming? She doesn't look it in the final act, but in the beginning scenes she had me thinking she was since she's wearing the tools of hiding pregnancies: black, shift-shaped coats, camera angles that only showed her shoulders and above, and scarves, scarves, scarves!
Only thing I have to criticize is the pacing/editing in the middle. Too many story beats for such time lapses. We already started with a 8 year flashforward, it settles for a good while, and then we get a 2 months+ time lapse again that takes on a practically new setting and themes with "New" Gotham and Bruce in prison. So much happened in these parts that I'm surprised a character didn't just outright vomit a new story arc. Then we settle into the last act and live happily ever after.
Best parts for me were definitely Catwoman and John Blake. Selina was so fun to watch that I was sad when she and Bruce left the whole movie there for awhile in the middle. I also liked the fakeouts they did with Robin John Blake and Batman not dying. It played with a lot of people's expectations and though I always assumed Blake would take the mantle after Bruce had died, I didn't think he would ever be associated with Robin after Nolan's "No Robin stance."
Hard to be surprised by Miranda/Talia though since Marion Cotillard and Liam Neeson share the same "What kind of accent is that?" accent. Totally thought Alfred died off-screen though since he's gone for what seems like a whole hour+.
Also, was Marion Cotillard pregnant during filming? She doesn't look it in the final act, but in the beginning scenes she had me thinking she was since she's wearing the tools of hiding pregnancies: black, shift-shaped coats, camera angles that only showed her shoulders and above, and scarves, scarves, scarves!
demosthenes
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Please tell me this is a joke. Are you kidding? Jesus.
Step off bitch, he's mine.
Alligatorjandro
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I still wanna know how Bane got so strong.Did his mask have Venom in it?
nononononononononononononononono
The series did not end with a broken Alfred hallucinating about seeing Bruce.
cartoon_soldier
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so in retrospect, everyones favourite moment from the series?
"You thought we could be decent men in an indecent time"
The mood, the unbelievable score, the lighting, the hopeless sense of dread. Everything so perfectly surmised the loftier ideas in the comic in this one scene.
I am still partial to the Liam Neeson is alive reveal in BB...
-Pyromaniac-
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it helps suppress pain by feeding him a constant anaesthetic.
BigJonsson
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Ughhhh.
Why?
People say they "should of [sic]" but then you never follow up on why that needed to happen.
Does that advance his character in anyway?
Even when Nolan tries to do a straight forward happy ending, it's turned into some dark and twisted ending lol
No, that's wrong. It is alluded to. The viewer has to pick up on the little clues here and there.
People complain about things being "spoon fed" to the audience, and then complain that a certain plot point wasn't alluded to enough throughout the earlier parts of the movie...
cartoon_soldier
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Edit: NVM, someone said above it was a different Bat.
ViewtifulJC
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TDKR didn't have a bad ending
Ya know what had a bad ending? For Your Eyes Only. Margaret Thatcher conducts a flirtatious telephone conversation with a parrot she believes to be agent 007. That shit is so bad it makes the "Bond-chases-a-midget" end to Golden Gun look like a masterstroke
Ya know what had a bad ending? For Your Eyes Only. Margaret Thatcher conducts a flirtatious telephone conversation with a parrot she believes to be agent 007. That shit is so bad it makes the "Bond-chases-a-midget" end to Golden Gun look like a masterstroke
demosthenes
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Don't try w/ Korey.
It was Alfred's dream in Inception
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Loved that scene so much. Wanted to get up and chant with the prisoners. And then the blind doctor chants as well, so awesome.
Loved the happy ending. I was prepping myself for a dark, somber ending, and then the happy ending happens, and I'm like
Just wish there was more Alfred. I know why their interaction is limited at the ending, but I do wish there was some "more" between Bruce and Alfred. But it's satisfying enough. The more time passes, the more I love the ending.
Bane was dealt with quickly, but it made sense the only thing that could take him down and keep him down was a .50 caliber anti-aircraft gun.
so in retrospect, everyones favourite moment from the series?
"You thought we could be decent men in an indecent time"
The mood, the unbelievable score, the lighting, the hopeless sense of dread. Everything so perfectly surmised the loftier ideas in the comic in this one scene. And Eckart was the unsung hero of TDK
In the entire series? Damn, thats tough. Especially where Ive seen BB like 20 times and TDKR but once.
Need to think about that.
parrotbeak
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Fox was just imagining the BAT.
Can somebody explain why they had to pretend Batman killed Harvey in the first place? I can see saying he killed the crooked cops and some of the gangsters as a vigilante move, but they were already in cover up mode by lying about what Harvey did (or didn't) do. Why not just say he died from the explosion wounds or commit suicide to cover for the broken neck?
This was a great moment, I loved the way Neelson was able to portray that slight ounce of empathy for bruce whilst he is talking about his parents dying. It's great.
Can't we share him? It would be like dating twins in a 90's sitcom, except we aren't twins.
Its the end of the trilogy, there is no advancement. Just feels cheap to me to gather emotion to try and convince the audience he was killed saving gotham only to have him shown alive 5 min later
demosthenes
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Well, he actually DID kill Harvey.
thecouncil
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"ohhh, i was wondering what would break first: your spirit... or your body!"
that was a pretty great part, guys.
that was a pretty great part, guys.
demosthenes
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LOL, this is true.
grap3fruitman
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Okay, now when does the Blu-ray with all the extras come out?
soul creator
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Since some people were asking, about 59 minutes into BB, they show Wayne putting some microphone thing into the helmet/mask.
Im guessing that's supposed to be the voice thing?
Im guessing that's supposed to be the voice thing?
Plasticine
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It's the reason Daggett really loses his shit and leads to him telling Bane that he's the one in charge. At the time it's played off as Bane being indifferent to Daggett's power grab ("You're pure evil"). In retrospect it means Miranda Tate taking control of the board is part of the plan.
Maybe we are
I get to be arnold, you can be danny devito.
It had 2 important functions.
1. It left Dent's good name and deeds pure and unsullied. Like they say in the movie, the revelation about Dent being a murdering psycho would have ruined all they had achieved.
2. It made Batman someone to fear again. In TDK we learned that criminals were no longer afraid of Batman due to his code. They feared Joker, as he was a man without rules or a moral code. A man who would kill anyone in cold blood. The lie allows Batman to once again strike fear into the hearts of criminals.
Yes, my second viewing was rather fun because I was able to recognize all those little hints through out the movie. The early scenes involving "the Guardian" and "the Child" become much more clearer on the second viewing also.
demosthenes
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December is the best guess.
so in retrospect, everyones favourite moment from the series?
"You thought we could be decent men in an indecent time"
The mood, the unbelievable score, the lighting, the hopeless sense of dread. Everything so perfectly surmised the loftier ideas in the comic in this one scene. And Eckart was the unsung hero of TDK
BB: Probably the whole ending sequence, starting with Ra's' return at Wayne Manor.
TDK: I always loved the scene where the Joker is hanging out the window of the police car.
TDKR: Freaking Judge Scarecrow, man. But I also loved any moment where humble, crippled Bruce Wayne was on screen. I basically just love his character growth and transition throughout the trilogy, and seeing in TDKR where it ended up. Bale did a fantastic job.
I know, I worded it poorly. I meant as part of the whole cover up. The point at which the cops find Harvey's body, Gordon is there and his family is as well. If they're going to cover up the whole hostage situation, why bother pinning his death on Batman?
Yeah I always understood the first part of it, especially after the whole coin flipping scene after the attempt on the mayor. Hadn't really considered the second part. Makes sense.
Alfred got a pretty damn imagination conjuring Selina Kyle with a pearl necklace also then.
Sorcerer
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Most likely Nov/Dec. Certainly before Xmas.
Fine you want to argue semantics. Then how does it conclude his character arc?
What did Ra's teach him? Not to fear anything, even death.
Where was he at the beginning of the film? Not living his life, practically wishing death.
What was Alfred and Rachel trying to impart on him? That he needs to give this up eventually and live.
What did he learn midway, in the pit? That he needs to fear death, to feel alive.
Where was he at the end of the film? Living his goddamn life.
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