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[Blader]

Could someone explain to me what Fox was talking about at the end with those workers? I had some obnoxious people in my theater.

He asked them how to fix the autopilot, because he wanted to know if there was anything he could have done differently that could have saved Bruce in the end. The workers tell him that the autopilot had been fixed months ago by Bruce. This is Fox's clue of how Bruce did survive after all.

 

[The Technomancer]

heh, I never thought about it like that before.

That was actually one thing I liked about the movie. Bane using the bank attack as cover to financially ruin Bruce, setting Bruce up to think of the obnoxious rich guy was an adversary thus forcing him to turn to Talia for help keeping control of Wayne Corp....one of the better plots I've seen on screen. Its a shame that once Bane actually takes control of the city the whole "plan" thing seems to grind to a halt.

 

[Liamario]

Could someone explain to me what Fox was talking about at the end with those workers? I had some obnoxious people in my theater.

Basically, the autopilot was fixed months ago by Wayne.

 

[chubigans]

Could someone explain to me what Fox was talking about at the end with those workers? I had some obnoxious people in my theater.

Boy, talk about obnoxious...my theater was pretty bad. Bunch of guys behind me calling the kid singing the national anthem "faggot" over and over again...ugh.

 

[dankir]

So did anybody's theater break into clapping when Wayne used his mini emp / disruptor device to break all the paparazzi camera's at once?

Hell he used something like it 4 - 5 times over the course of the film no?

I'm also very glad that his Aventador didn't meet a horrible unnecessary death as the LP-640 did in TDK

#SaveTheLambos

 

[AniHawk]

Which is a bad-ass non-scene for Gordon.

yeah.

man, i love gary oldman as jim gordon.

 

[OrangeGrayBlue]

I found the climb weird because there was no risk in it really. When I first saw it, I thought the rope was tied around their necks which would make sense. You fall you die. Instead its around your waste so there's no real risk. It's like a really fun game to play in jail. Why not just try every day? The whacky rope climb climb game.

Tie a rope around your waist and let yourself get caught by it after falling about 40 feet and let me know if you want to do that every day

 

[Solo]

So did anybody's theater break into clapping when Wayne used his mini emp / disruptor device to break all the paparazzi camera's at once?

My crowd didn't, but for me it was one of the funniest moments in the whole movie.

 

[BattleMonkey]

They explain the 5-months things, both from the bomb and Bane's point of view.

He wants to give the people of Gotham "hope" before he rips it away from them. Sure 5 months may have been a long time, but whatever.

That doesn't explain why they had to wait for the bomb to go off and why it had to be a specific time limit. You build up hope to people who you are just going to kill anyways? That is beyond stupid. The only explanation that has any semi merit is to draw out Batmans suffering of watching his city. But their whole plan was to detonate no matter what, they just became real stupid comic book villains who don't just press the button. They clearly never expected batman to come back, "IMPOSSIBLE!". When Batman came back they should have just pushed the button like they had threatened to do in the first place.

 

[Korey]

There were more conversations about the autopilot before that scene at the end. Can anyone give a basic transcript? I remember they talked about it when they were on the roof where the Bat was hidden with camo (lol)

 

[Petrichor]

There are too many awesome moments in the entire trilogy to count or make a list of. And yes TDKR adds to the list a lot too. The ending, the Bane vs Batman fight, Catwoman ass kicking, Bruce getting out of the well, Bruce vs Alfred... and one of my personal favorite scenes from the movie was when JGL was storming the hospital with his loaded shotgun to save Gordon only to find that Gordon had one upped the goons.

Seriously - there's lots of (deserved) praise for the bane scenes - but the catwoman segments were easily the highlight of the entire picture for me - the scene where she delivers the fingerprints was particularly well executed (reminded me a lot of some of river song's scenes in doctor who)

 

[Deleted member 30609]

So did anybody's theater break into clapping when Wayne used his mini emp / disruptor device to break all the paparazzi camera's at once?

Hell he used something like it 4 - 5 times over the course of the film no?

I'm also very glad that his Aventador didn't meet a horrible unnecessary death as the LP-640 did in TDK

#SaveTheLambos

I forgot about this moment!

 

[Penguin]

That doesn't explain why they had to wait for the bomb to go off and why it had to be a specific time limit. You build up hope to people who you are just going to kill anyways? That is beyond stupid. The only explanation that has any semi merit is to draw out Batmans suffering of watching his city. But their whole plan was to detonate no matter what, they just became real stupid comic book villains who don't just press the button. They clearly never expected batman to come back, "IMPOSSIBLE!". When Batman came back they should have just pushed the button like they had threatened to do in the first place.

Well the people of Gotham didn't know they had a time limit. They just knew if they played by Bane rules they would live.

 

[Wilbur]

Seriously - there's lots of (deserved) praise for the bane scenes - but the catwoman segments were easily the highlight of the entire picture for me - the scene where she delivers the fingerprints was particularly well executed (reminded me a lot of some of river song's scenes in doctor who)

Yeah Hathaway was great in that scene, going from screaming to composed in half a second. She was brilliant.

 

[Halcyon]

That doesn't explain why they had to wait for the bomb to go off and why it had to be a specific time limit. You build up hope to people who you are just going to kill anyways? That is beyond stupid. The only explanation that has any semi merit is to draw out Batmans suffering of watching his city. But their whole plan was to detonate no matter what, they just became real stupid comic book villains who don't just press the button. They clearly never expected batman to come back, "IMPOSSIBLE!". When Batman came back they should have just pushed the button like they had threatened to do in the first place.

You got your wish. They blow up Gotham immediately. Now the movie is really awesome and has drama and a point!

 

[Solo]

There were more conversations about the autopilot before that scene at the end. Can anyone give a basic transcript? I remember they talked about it when they were on the roof where the Bat was hidden with camo (lol)

Bruce asked Lucious about why it wasn't working at one point and Lucious made some joke to the effect of "that's why you're here". Of course, Lucious meant "that's why you're here, to fly the plane!", but sly old Bruce took it another way.

 

[Korey]

That doesn't explain why they had to wait for the bomb to go off and why it had to be a specific time limit. You build up hope to people who you are just going to kill anyways? That is beyond stupid. The only explanation that has any semi merit is to draw out Batmans suffering of watching his city. But their whole plan was to detonate no matter what, they just became real stupid comic book villains who don't just press the button. They clearly never expected batman to come back, "IMPOSSIBLE!". When Batman came back they should have just pushed the button like they had threatened to do in the first place.

Exactly. And from what I remember, nobody believes that they gave a random member of the public the detonator, so that plot device was completely superfluous. It doesn't even make any sense, what does giving a random person the detonator do. Wouldn't that person simply tell everyone he has it?

It doesn't make any sense.

 

[kunonabi]

So did anybody's theater break into clapping when Wayne used his mini emp / disruptor device to break all the paparazzi camera's at once?

Hell he used something like it 4 - 5 times over the course of the film no?

I'm also very glad that his Aventador didn't meet a horrible unnecessary death as the LP-640 did in TDK

#SaveTheLambos

That scene and Catwoman were the only parts of the movie that got any reaction at my showing. Crowd was dead for everything else.

 

[The Technomancer]

Exactly. And from what I remember, nobody believes that they gave a random member of the public the detonator, so that plot device was completely superfluous. It doesn't even make any sense, what does giving a random person the detonator do. Wouldn't that person simply tell everyone he has it?

It doesn't make any sense.

Yeah, on reflection that kind of plot device can work really well when you have a locked room with like ten people in it, but doesn't work at all with an entire city.

 

[Messypandas]

That doesn't explain why they had to wait for the bomb to go off and why it had to be a specific time limit. You build up hope to people who you are just going to kill anyways? That is beyond stupid. The only explanation that has any semi merit is to draw out Batmans suffering of watching his city. But their whole plan was to detonate no matter what, they just became real stupid comic book villains who don't just press the button. They clearly never expected batman to come back, "IMPOSSIBLE!". When Batman came back they should have just pushed the button like they had threatened to do in the first place.

why do sadistic nutcases torture people before they kill them? Why prolong their suffering. Its like they get off on it or something. God damn inconsistent sociopaths

 

[iamblades]

That doesn't explain why they had to wait for the bomb to go off and why it had to be a specific time limit. You build up hope to people who you are just going to kill anyways? That is beyond stupid. The only explanation that has any semi merit is to draw out Batmans suffering of watching his city. But their whole plan was to detonate no matter what, they just became real stupid comic book villains who don't just press the button. They clearly never expected batman to come back, "IMPOSSIBLE!". When Batman came back they should have just pushed the button like they had threatened to do in the first place.

^^

The more I think of it, the more it seems like this movie is the batman equivalent of a 007 movie.

None of the behavior of the villains makes any logical sense at all.

 

[awilliams213]

I saw it last night in IMAX the first 5 minutes had no audio I am sure a bunch of people are now clueless about the Dent Act and the whole Russian scientist intro. That said this is my new favorite trilogy next to Back to the Future.

I read Harry Knowles review wow he's crazy. The Batman film he wants to see with Clayface sounds exactly like the Amazing Spiderman school hallway fight. When Batman is rebooted we are all going to look back at the worst parts of TDKR and say heh it wasn't that bad.

 

[AniHawk]

and how come they never take the bat signal off the roof of gpd's hq? i can't believe how many plot holes there are in this film.

 

[The Elite]

I saw it last night in IMAX the first 5 minutes had no audio I am sure a bunch of people are now clueless about the Dent Act and the whole Russian scientist intro. That said this is my new favorite trilogy next to Back to the Future.

I read Harry Knowles review wow he's crazy. The Batman film he wants to see with Clayface sounds exactly like the Amazing Spiderman school hallway fight. When Batman is rebooted we are all going to look back at the worst parts of TDKR and say heh it wasn't that bad.

I assume everyone in the theater got a refund for the lack of audio?

 

[SunhiLegend]

People should pay more attention when watching movies.

 

[The Technomancer]

and how come they never take the bat signal off the roof of gpd's hq? i can't believe how many plot holes there are in this film.

Here's how I view it: if you have a plot hole that people notice after hours of discussion on a message-board somewhere, you're probably alright.
If you have a plot hole that people discover on reflection as they're leaving the theater, you have something of a problem.
If you have a plot hole that people notice while its happening on screen in front of them you have a huge problem.

 

[User 73706]

Just one thing that might help people appreciate Bane's character more: shedding that single tear wasn't just "aww the poor guy we SHOULD feel bad for him now, he cares that much about Talia." While I'm sure the speech had emotional impact, Bruce had just punched a few of the pipes on his mask out of place minutes ago and Bane had just been in one of the most elaborate brawls in the entire trilogy. Anyone ever consider that tear might have been out of physical pain rather than emotional attachment?

 

[Penguin]

and how come they never take the bat signal off the roof of gpd's hq? i can't believe how many plot holes there are in this film.

I was wondering that as well

But I guess no one ever really cared...

The symbolic nature of its destruction was enough.

 

[.GqueB.]

and how come they never take the bat signal off the roof of gpd's hq? i can't believe how many plot holes there are in this film.

The logistics would be a nightmare.

 

[Korey]

Yeah, on reflection that kind of plot device can work really well when you have a locked room with like ten people in it, but doesn't work at all with an entire city.

I think that kind of plot device only works when there's either some sort of bargain or prisoner's dilemma (like the Joker boat thing in TDK), or check under your seat to see if you won an all expenses paid trip to Disneyland!

Not when the prize is "one of you has the detonator to kill yourself and everyone."

 

[Messypandas]

why did Batman apply his eye shadow when going to confront Bane? I mean there was a ticking nuke man get some perspective

 

[KevinCow]

I liked the first encounter between Selina and Bruce, where she starts out all meek housemaid... and then right when she realizes she's caught, she immediately transforms into her true confident master thief persona.

 

[The Technomancer]

I think that kind of plot device only works when there's either some sort of bargain or prisoner's dilemma (like the Joker boat thing in TDK), or check under your seat to see if you won an all expenses paid trip to Disneyland!

Not when the prize is that "one of you has the detonator to kill all of us!"

Well "one of the people in this locked room cannot be trusted" is an age old trope that works really well sometimes, but only with a small locked cast of characters. I really have no idea why they had the whole "random citizen with detonator" thing in there.

 

[Solo]

Yeah, Anne was great. Her performance will be remembered more than Hardy's.

 

[DMczaf]

"A hero can be anyone. Even a man doing something as simple and reassuring as putting their coat around a young boy's soulders to let him know the world hadn't ended."

 

[Deleted member 30609]

even the most egregious plot hole in the movie, in this case Bruce getting back into Gotham somehow, didn't especially bother me. A five-second shot of Bruce taking a secret tunnel into/out of Wayne Manor or something wouldn't have actually made the movie any better. I don't see the point of getting hung up about it.

 

[The Technomancer]

I liked the first encounter between Selina and Bruce, where she starts out all meek housemaid... and then right when she realizes she's caught, she immediately transforms into her true confident master thief persona.

Best on-screen introduction of Catwoman. No question.

 

[schuelma]

even the most egregious plot hole in the movie, in this case Bruce getting back into Gotham somehow, didn't especially bother me. A five-second shot of Bruce taking a secret tunnel into/out of Wayne Manor or something wouldn't have actually made the movie any better. I don't see the point of getting hung up about it.

Yeah that one keeps bugging me.

 

[Rabid Wolverine]

and how come they never take the bat signal off the roof of gpd's hq? i can't believe how many plot holes there are in this film.

If you've got problems with equipment, I suggest ou take it up with maintenance, counselor.

 

[Messypandas]

I think you're taking the random citizen angle far too literally. It simply means the key to the bomb resided with someone that the police would never figure (plain-clothes ed, non-descript) and not one of Banes mecenaries so it would be impossible to track down

 

[The Technomancer]

Yeah that one keeps bugging me.

Its part of the larger problem with the entire prison sequence I think. That whole sub-plot feels disconnected physically and temporally from the rest of the movie.

 

[AniHawk]

even the most egregious plot hole in the movie, in this case Bruce getting back into Gotham somehow, didn't especially bother me. A five-second shot of Bruce taking a secret tunnel into/out of Wayne Manor or something wouldn't have actually made the movie any better. I don't see the point of getting hung up about it.

plus i mean it's batman going into the place he knows best. i'd be surprised if batman couldn't get into gotham undetected.

 

[awilliams213]

I assume everyone in the theater got a refund for the lack of audio?

Yeah even if I didn't it wasn't going to be the end of the world.

 

[Penguin]

even the most egregious plot hole in the movie, in this case Bruce getting back into Gotham somehow, didn't especially bother me. A five-second shot of Bruce taking a secret tunnel into/out of Wayne Manor or something wouldn't have actually made the movie any better. I don't see the point of getting hung up about it.

I imagine it can't be difficult for a single person to sneak in/out of Gotham...

Especially when it's someone like Batman who probably knows Gotham's ins and outs better than anyone.

 

[Korey]

even the most egregious plot hole in the movie, in this case Bruce getting back into Gotham somehow, didn't especially bother me. A five-second shot of Bruce taking a secret tunnel into/out of Wayne Manor or something wouldn't have actually made the movie any better. I don't see the point of getting hung up about it.

They should've had some scenes where they showed a broke Bruce Wayne taking odd dishwashing jobs to pay for the plane ticket and forged passport he used to get back to the US from vague foreign country. I guess he could've used the US embassy to help out though.

 

[Messypandas]

Yeah that one keeps bugging me.

Wayne Manor has secret passages to the north remember

 

[SyNapSe]

Tie a rope around your waist and let yourself get caught by it after falling about 40 feet and let me know if you want to do that every day

no kidding. when the first guy tried to do the climb I assumed he died. You'd think that would snap your back.

I just saw it. It certainly wasn't perfect but it was quite entertaining. It definitely could have been two movies. Carcetti/Littlefinger and Bunny Colvin

 

[AniHawk]

If you've got problems with equipment, I suggest ou take it up with maintenance, counselor.

nice quote

 

[SteveWinwood]

The only thing that bothered me was them finding the parked bat on the roof. Oh yeah the whole city was taken over by psychopaths for like 4 months and no one found this crazy helicopter and bashed the shit out of it because it was covered in this camo tarp.

Its part of the larger problem with the entire prison sequence I think. That whole sub-plot feels disconnected physically and temporally from the rest of the movie.

I thought it was going to be a oh you've been in a coma for 4 months this whole time type thing. I'm really glad it wasn't that.

 

[Solo]

Yeah that one keeps bugging me.

Based on the fact that Bruce lived as a "poor" "criminal" for 7 years in BB, and used smugglers in TDK, I think its pretty clear he's extremely resourceful.